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Post by oscarkipling on Wed May 02, 2012 4:46 pm

Strangelove wrote:

Sure, start a thread if you like.

You won't see me riding a fence on any subject.

Because I have a benchmark for absolute truth.

I guess in your universe of reltivism things are alot more difficult to slap a 'right or wrong' label on.

Pity for you. Politcal correctness is the same as socialism. They come from the same playbook. Happy Mayday (Loyalty/labour/communist.....call it what ya want day)

okay, I gotta think up a good one.
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Post by oscarkipling on Wed May 02, 2012 4:53 pm

oh yeah, where should I put the thread?
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Post by Strangelove on Wed May 02, 2012 4:57 pm

oscarkipling wrote:oh yeah, where should I put the thread?

Wherever you like bud. I'll move it if necessary.

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Post by zone on Wed May 02, 2012 7:16 pm

oscarkipling wrote:but i'm not going to lie and say that I found the evidence so far to be rock solid, so for that assessment I am not sorry at all.

don't be lazy oscar. do your own homework.

you want the world explained to you in a few posts here? get real.

btw: i remain "unconvinced" that you are blissfully unaware of how the world works, or that you are unable to research quickly and effectively.

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Post by zone on Wed May 02, 2012 7:24 pm

“Every child in America entering school at the age of 5 is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well — by creating the international child of the future”

Chester M. Pierce
Professor of education and psychiatry at Harvard.


http://www.aim.org/wls/teachers-must-change-attitudes-and-values-of-students/

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well well well....a Professor!
of Education!
and Psychiatry!


at HARVARD!

he is an expert. a scientist. an authority.
he MUST be RIGHT.

what do y'all think? is Chester M. Pierce right?
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Post by oscarkipling on Wed May 02, 2012 7:56 pm

zone wrote:“Every child in America entering school at the age of 5 is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well — by creating the international child of the future”

Chester M. Pierce
Professor of education and psychiatry at Harvard.


http://www.aim.org/wls/teachers-must-change-attitudes-and-values-of-students/

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well well well....a Professor!
of Education!
and Psychiatry!


at HARVARD!

he is an expert. a scientist. an authority.
he MUST be RIGHT.

what do y'all think? is Chester M. Pierce right?

I think he's using some rhetorical flourishes there, but I can understand his point, he has a point of view about the world that he clearly thinks is correct and should be taught as such. I dont think its a teachers primary job to change a child's values in the way he's talking about. Now basic etiquette and social skills are important for young children, and could be considered as molding values. I do realize that with some values there will be conflict with even the most basic primary education...i do not know ho w to resolve that, but i'm open to ideas, not that i'll be able to do anything with the ideas other than agree or disagree.
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Post by Strangelove on Wed May 02, 2012 8:04 pm

oscarkipling wrote:I think he's using some rhetorical flourishes there, but I can understand his point, he has a point of view about the world that he clearly thinks is correct and should be taught as such. I dont think its a teachers primary job to change a child's values in the way he's talking about. Now basic etiquette and social skills are important for young children, and could be considered as molding values. I do realize that with some values there will be conflict with even the most basic primary education...i do not know ho w to resolve that, but i'm open to ideas, not that i'll be able to do anything with the ideas other than agree or disagree.

Is that fence comfy mate?

This is what you do innit? Go to Christian forums and ride the fence. A champion for relativism. Scientific and moral. This is a wonderful educational for us at this forum. Thanks so much for coming. I'm not too sure how much of this I can take but its immensely eye opening.

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Post by zone on Wed May 02, 2012 8:06 pm

zone wrote:“Every child in America entering school at the age of 5 is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well — by creating the international child of the future”

Chester M. Pierce
Professor of education and psychiatry at Harvard.


http://www.aim.org/wls/teachers-must-change-attitudes-and-values-of-students/

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well well well....a Professor!
of Education!
and Psychiatry!


at HARVARD!

he is an expert. a scientist. an authority.
he MUST be RIGHT.

what do y'all think? is Chester M. Pierce right?

oscarkipling wrote:
I think he's using some rhetorical flourishes there, but I can understand his point, he has a point of view about the world that he clearly thinks is correct and should be taught as such.

i see.
well lucky for us he's some marginalized nobody without any way to cause his ideology to overtake us.

oscarkipling wrote:
I dont think its a teachers primary job to change a child's values in the way he's talking about..

is he an extremist?
is he expressing a healthy moral imperative to the "teachers" he is instructing?
just shooting the breeze over a beer?

or clearly laying out an agenda?

oscarkipling wrote:
Now basic etiquette and social skills are important for young children, and could be considered as molding values.

i agree.
who wouldn't. but what's that got to do with Chester M. Pierce?

naturally, per your training, you've injected the beautifully simple and reasonable in with the toxin. that's how its done.

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I do realize that with some values there will be conflict with even the most basic primary education...i do not know ho w to resolve that, but i'm open to ideas, not that i'll be able to do anything with the ideas other than agree or disagree.

au contraire...you're able to do MUCH with the dialectics. but you know that.
(not here, mind you. but generally speaking).
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Re: Occultic Gatekeepers on Science Section of Christian Forums

Post by zone on Wed May 02, 2012 8:08 pm

Strangelove wrote:

Is that fence comfy mate?

This is what you do innit? Go to Christian forums and ride the fence. A champion for relativism. Scientific and moral. This is a wonderful educational for us at this forum. Thanks so much for coming. I'm not too sure how much of this I can take but its immensely eye opening.

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Post by zone on Wed May 02, 2012 8:13 pm

An Introduction to J. Habermas
by Steve Stickle, presented in English 510


Oral Report: Jürgen Habermas
by Steve Stickle

Jürgen Habermas (b. 1929) is the leading scholar of the second generation of the Frankfurt School, a group of philosophers, cultural critics and social scientists associated with the Institute for Social Research, founded in Frankfurt in 1929. The figures most commonly associated with the school are Horkheimer, Adorno, Marcuse, Fromm and Habermas. Walter Benjamin was also loosely affiliated. The Frankfurt School is best known for its program of developing a "critical theory of society". "Critical theory is primarily a way of doing philosophy, integrating the normative aspects of philosophical reflection with the explanatory achievements of the social sciences. The ultimate goal of its program is to link theory and practice, to provide insight, and to empower subjects to change their oppressive circumstances and achieve human emancipation, a rational society that satisfies human needs and powers....Habermas' analysis of communication seeks to provide norms for non-dominating relations to others and a broader notion of reason." [Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, pp. 278-79]

Habermas was a student of Adorno, becoming his assistant in 1956. He first taught philosophy at Heidelberg before becoming a professor of philosophy and sociology at the University of Frankfurt. In 1972, he moved to the Max-Planck Institute in Starnberg, but in the mid-1980s, he returned to his post at Frankfurt.

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Re: Occultic Gatekeepers on Science Section of Christian Forums

Post by oscarkipling on Wed May 02, 2012 8:14 pm

Strangelove wrote:

Is that fence comfy mate?

This is what you do innit? Go to Christian forums and ride the fence. A champion for relativism. Scientific and moral. This is a wonderful educational for us at this forum. Thanks so much for coming. I'm not too sure how much of this I can take but its immensely eye opening.

yes, that's my evil plan to go around all 3 christian forums that I'm a member of and be non-committal

1.Join Christian forum
2. Ride The fence
3.????
4. Satan profits!!!

it made much more sense when you implied I was here to sow doubt and confusion and do something malicious for evil....now I'm just kinda non committal, for evil?
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Post by Strangelove on Wed May 02, 2012 8:18 pm

oscarkipling wrote:yes, that's my evil plan to go around all 3 christian forums that I'm a member of and be non-committal

1.Join Christian forum
2. Ride The fence
3.????
4. Satan profits!!!

it made much more sense when you implied I was here to sow doubt and confusion and do something malicious for evil....now I'm just kinda non committal, for evil?

Well DUH!!! Chrsitians are hardly gonna be taken in by a devils uniform are they?



Yes moral and scientific RELATIVISM is far more dangerous. Causes much doubt and confusion. Excep on a forum such as this where we can see through the smoke and mirrors.

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Post by zone on Wed May 02, 2012 8:23 pm

2.The dialectic is the process of moving society along a predefined path to a prescribed outcome. It is active through all ideologies and philosophies to offer a plethora of choices on every issue you can name, be it political, economic, religious or social. There is no political party, economic philosophy, theology or any ideology which has immunity from the dialectic process. Anyone holding a position in any of these areas is a defacto participant in the dialectic.

3.While the dialectic is the alchemical process for change, there needs to be a motive force driving it along which cuts across all political, economic, religious or social ideologies. That motive force is technology. There is no political party, religion, economic method or social philosophy capable of effectively standing against the driving force of technological development.

4.Technological development is moving toward an objective called the "Technological Singularity". The word 'technology' itself has been redefined in common usage to mean Intellectual Technology (IT), and nearly always indicating the Internet. In the view of one Market Insights Professional, "New IT servicing models like cloud ... make it easier for non-technical employees to download and install technology services." Among those technology services, are social networking services such as Facebook. One of the key phrases I came across during my research was "democratization of technology". That is another way of saying Third Way, facilitated consensus driven technology, or technological advancement by democratic vote. Social unity is a key agenda item to insure that everyone is brought into the group think mentality, and as I have documented, there is a large number of people and organizations -- many religious -- working toward that end. People are actively "voting" for every technological advancement using their thumbs on their personal IT devices.


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Post by oscarkipling on Wed May 02, 2012 8:31 pm

Strangelove wrote:

Well DUH!!! Chrsitians are hardly gonna be taken in by a devils uniform are they?



Yes moral and scientific RELATIVISM is far more dangerous. Causes much doubt and confusion. Excep on a forum such as this where we can see through the smoke and mirrors.


I see, and moral relativism is the same thing as being non-committal?

also what is scientific RELATIVISM?
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Post by Strangelove on Wed May 02, 2012 8:35 pm

oscarkipling wrote:I see, and moral relativism is the same thing as being non-committal?

Exactly. No right or wrong. Grey area.

oscarkipling wrote:also what is scientific RELATIVISM?

Same thing. No absolutes. Alberts theory. Are you playing dumb now?

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Post by zone on Wed May 02, 2012 8:35 pm

oscarkipling wrote:
I see, and moral relativism is the same thing as being non-committal?

also what is scientific RELATIVISM?

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Post by Strangelove on Wed May 02, 2012 8:38 pm

Ya seriously oscar.....you've exposed yourself, and now your starting to look a little desperate.

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Post by oscarkipling on Wed May 02, 2012 8:51 pm

Strangelove wrote:Ya seriously oscar.....you've exposed yourself, and now your starting to look a little desperate.

yeah, well I'm still pretty young, so I probably wasn't ready for heavy hitter like you guys. overall I'm learning a lot though, for the future.
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Post by zone on Wed May 02, 2012 8:52 pm

“A change agent is someone who engages either deliberately or whose behavior results in social, cultural or behavioral change. This can be studied scientifically and effective techniques can be discovered and employed.”

- Wikipedia: Change Agent

An octopus of Non Governmental Organizations (NGOs), Tax-Exempt Foundations, Think Tanks, Multinational Corporations and the Media Establishment practice the subtle science of persuasion.

In the last two hundred years there isn't a single area of society that hasn't been influenced by facilitators of transformation education. For complete control of the masses a dictatorship is not necessary, although it does expedite the process. The collective moulding begins early in life, sustained and refined throughout one's formal education; a universal curriculum of manipulation can transform and achieve a complete paradigm shift for a whole generation.

(no link posted since the source references "Illuminati" << LOL )

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Post by zone on Wed May 02, 2012 10:25 pm

oscarkipling wrote:

yeah, well I'm still pretty young, so I probably wasn't ready for heavy hitter like you guys. overall I'm learning a lot though, for the future.

lol!

so let's talk NASA oscar.

remember our friend Zoltan G. Levay in Baltimore Maryland?
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Post by Strangelove on Thu May 03, 2012 5:58 am

oscarkipling wrote:yeah, well I'm still pretty young, so I probably wasn't ready for heavy hitter like you guys. overall I'm learning a lot though, for the future.

You mean like.....you've learnt not to overplay your hand too quick?

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Post by Strangelove on Thu May 03, 2012 7:10 pm

Note to gatekeeper college:

Please send someone less obvious.

Oh wait. There just is no way of fooling Spirit led Christians. Best stick to forums with weak admins. Tell-tale sign = Dispies.

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Post by zone on Thu May 10, 2012 3:35 pm

The Temple of Set is an initiatory occult society claiming to be the world's leading left-hand path religious organization. It professes Setian philosophy and magical practice.

The Temple of Set was established in 1975 by Lt. Colonel of the US Army Michael Aquino and certain members of the priesthood of the Church of Satan,[1] who left because of administrative and philosophical disagreements with its founder.[1] The Temple of Set was incorporated in California that same year as a nonprofit church.

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Lt. Colonel of the US Army Michael Aquino

https://xeper.org//maquino/nm/MindWar.pdf

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Vallely and Aquino's MindWar scheme is remarkably similar to the Total Information Awareness (TIA) program launched by the Donald Rumsfeld Pentagon, under the direction of Irangate figure Adm. John Poindexter. Ostensibly, the Total Information Awareness global propaganda and mega-data-mining plan was scrapped after a series of negative news stories, but Pentagon sources have reported that the program was merely "taken into a black box."

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Post by Strangelove on Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:26 pm

Just posted this on CARM but it will probably be deleted so I'll reproduce here:

Scientific gatekeepers are present on all Christian forums. They usually have a humungous post count and have amassed a reasonable following of atheist useful idiots who slather at their every word and take their hypothetical un-scientific hornswaggle as gospel. It makes 'em feel big and powerful. The gatekeepers will usually let their minions do most of the legwork and just pop in now and again with moral and unscientific support even if it means knowingly lying to their underlings on science matters in order to encourage them to fight Christians. The gatekeepers themselves almost always have a history with the occult and are members of creepy groups, specifically, but not always.....wicca. The wiccans are very vigilant on the heliocentric thing because...heathen pagan hokum that it is, they hold the sun in very high regard (Copernicus!) and must have it at the centre of the system rather than the Earth which is the centre of Gods attention both physically and spiritually.

Christians on this subforum should realise that you are not gonna get honest discussion out of these people. The scientific method is out the window and hypothetical musings rule as long as they support anything anti-God then its all good with them.

Geocentrism is a normative Christian belief in terms of othodoxy in the faith through time. The protestant leaders upheld it vigilantly, the Catholic leadership condemned the helio view as formal heresy and have never rescinded that.

Your average professing Christian, however, is not a geocentrist because the religion of scientism has made great strides in recent times. It has contributed greatly to the great apostacy. It's the gatekeepers job to make sure this trend continues.

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Re: Occultic Gatekeepers on Science Section of Christian Forums

Post by rodin on Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:06 pm

Strangelove wrote:Read much H.P. Lovecraft oscar?
 i have listened to everything they ever recorded....

The White Ship is particularly compelling.

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Re: Occultic Gatekeepers on Science Section of Christian Forums

Post by Knight2Christ on Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:12 pm

Strangelove wrote:Has anyone else noticed that on every medium/large Christian website you go to there will be an aethiest with very large posting styles and a poor attitude ruling the science section?

When pushed they will usually admit to some kind of pseudo-religious view or even a straight up occultist/satanist background.

Thats 2 Wiccans I've run into now acting like gatekeeper 'know it alls' in science subforums. Theres always a long time member aethiest/satanist around when Christians want to talk science.

:confused:Hmmmmmm.....

Yea, I've noticed that!  Great Thread!
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Re: Occultic Gatekeepers on Science Section of Christian Forums

Post by lifepsyop on Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:09 pm

Popular Christian Science forums are overrun by them.  A tag-team of atheists and "christians" that will jump all over you for daring to advocate God's word as literal truth.   I have been accused by other 'Christians' of belonging to a "cult" for supporting Genesis...  with the usual "God wouldn't trick us by leaving so much evidence for evolution in nature, blah blah blah"..  while they lock arms with atheists who are ridiculing your belief in the Bible in general.. though the resident "Christians" don't seem to mind all that much for some reason.  The most a resident atheist will get from the resident "christian" is maybe some playful chiding and a wink... like "Oh I should probably say something or it's going to look weird..."   but if you dare support the Bible, that same "christian" will attack you like it's his mission in life.

I was doing battle at http://www.christianforums.com/f70/ for awhile before I grew weary of the same pattern of assault.  I finally stopped beating around the bush and asked one of the "Christians" if they thought Jesus Christ's death and resurrection was literal, and they said 'No, it was metaphorical.'   At that point I packed up and left. 

I would also be curious how many occultists are sitting behind those computer screens roleplaying as a Christian. 

At a conspiracy forum called "GodLikeProductions", there are tons of people calling themselves Christians,  yet I lost count of how many were displaying occultic imagery in their avatars, usually in the form of a prominent single eye...  I started a thread about it there once, calling them out on it, and they all just started acting aloof and joking around about it.

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