New World Order

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:And don't forget John Thomas and the Christadelphians, spawned from the Campbellite/Millerite Restorationist Movement.

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Sabbateans and modern secularism
Some scholars have noted that the Sabbatean movement in general fostered and connected well with the principles of modern secularism.[3] Related to this is the drive of the Donmeh in Turkey for secularizing their society just as European Jews promoted the values of Age of Enlightenment and its Jewish equivalent the haskalah.
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PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:

Got it!

Do you remember the story I told you some time ago about my encounter -while I was a student in Geneva/Switzerland- with Leah, a Jewish girl from a rich private-banking family connected to the very top of the banking "elites"? She told me that most people of her milieu didn`t believe in God but rather in a supernatural being collectively created throughout the ages by way of black magic (kabbalah)? This being was supposed to serve their creators rather than to be served by them. This whole conversation started when I innocently asked Leah if the star of David on her neck meant she was believing in God and she replied something like "we believe in a god but we call it an egregore and it serves us rather than being served by us". After that, she never spoke about that to me again.

When I had this conversation with Leah, about three decades ago, the kabbalah was a very secret subject. That was the first time I myself heard the word "egregore". Today, people like Madonna and other half-nuts from the cosmopolitan (Jewish or not) jet-set are getting fond of the kabbalah and a lot of information is available on the web. So, we can learn for instance that the egregores are one of the central part of this black magic and that they are supposed to be man-made and serve their creators with supernatural powers. We can also learn that the egregores have to be fed in order to stay alive and that the most convenient way to feed them is to sacrifice them human fear and human lifes. If it is true, I cannot help but imagine that, some egregores must be very fat today with the continuous sacrifices from Palestine or Iraq... I guess that, from the outside, it is difficult to make a difference between someone invoking and sacrificiating to an evil god called Satan or Lucifer and someone invoking and sacrificiating to a supernatural slave supposed to have been created by themselves and called "egregore"...

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:...a supernatural slave supposed to have been created by themselves and called "egregore"...

Strangelove wrote:Holocaustianity.

the general imprint that encircles a group entity. It is the summary of
the physical, emotional, mental and spiritual energies generated by two
or more people vibrating together towards the same goal

Strangelove wrote:

Political Zionism.
Racial (pseudo) Supremacism.
World Religious Government.
New World Order.

....the spirit of antichrist.

They can call it "majik" if they want. I don't believe in magic, its just rejection of Christ and one wicked thing leading to another reaching the inevitable conclusion.

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:So... to what extent have all the sectarian factions of Christendom "created" an egregore as their G/god?

Before starting, the author would like to express thanks to Wr. Giovanni Lombardo for his assistance in defining and bringing this article to the readers.

If you have never heard of the term “egregore”, join the crowd. Many people have never heard the word, and until recently, that crowd INCLUDED the author. A year ago, while on The Lodgeroom US, a fervent antimasonic… person, named Thomas “Skip” Sampson, tossed out an unsupported and off topic slander to the effect that we masons should go back to working on evoking our egregore in lodge.

At the time, the author was stunned, never before having heard the word. A quick internet search revealed nothing, and not having any information on the subject, a research project was born, and thence this paper.

At the time, very little was available, though that has changed recently. One of the problems is that egregore is spelled two different ways, with a “E” at the end, and without. This made is difficult at first to find information.

So, what is an egregore, and how does it relate to freemasonry?

Let start with a simple explanation of what an egregore is, or is reputed to be, and then move on from there. On this subject, there are various opinions, especially among “occultists” who seem to be the primary authors on the nature of the egregore. Following are the four primary occultist definitions:


An energized astral form produced consciously or unconsciously by human agency. In particular, (a) a strongly characterized form, usually an archetypal image, produced by the imaginative and emotional energies of a religious or magical group collectively, or (b) an astral shape of any kind, deliberately formulated by a magician to carry a specific force.[1]

…from a Greek word
meaning “watcher.” A thought-form created by will and visualization. A group egregore is the distinctive energy of a specific group of magicians who are working together, creating and building the same thought-form or energy-form.[2]

Any symbolic pattern that has served as a focus for human emotion and energy will build up an egregore of its own over
time, and the more energy that is put into such a pattern, the more potent the egregore that will form around it. The gods and goddesses of every religion, past and present, are at the centers of vast egregore charged with specific kinds of power. This power is defined by, and contacted through, the traditional symbolism of the deity in question.[3]

An egregore is an angel, sometimes called watcher; in Hebrew the word is ir, and the concept appears in The Book of Enoch.... Thus, Irim, the city of the Nephilim is again linked with the Book of Enoch, since the Nephilim, according to that Book, were the sons of the Irim (the egregores.)....Although the Irim, the egregores, are angels on both sides of the camp - fallen angels as well as faithful ones.[4]

René Guénon, a prolific writer on Masonic philosophy offers the following:

First of all, we must point out that we have never used the word ‘egregore’ to designate what could properly be called a ‘collective entity’; the reason for this is that the term is wholly untraditional and only represents one of the fantasies of modern occultist language.

The first person to use it (egregore) this way was Eliphas Levy, and if our memory is exact, it was he who, to justify this meaning gave it the improbable Latin etymology, deriving it from grex, ‘flock’, whereas the word is purely Greek and has never signified anything more than watcher.[5]

It appears therefore that, according to Guénon that an egregore is a manifestation of psychic energy, as opposed to a spiritual force as the occultists would define it. Now that the author has completely confused you, let us proceed to dissect what we have as “definitions” to see if we can come to an understanding of the egregore, and its “place” in freemasonry.

Of the definitions offered, that of Guénon seems to be the one that actually relates to masonry, while the others relate to religious/occult faith. The egregore is a psychic entity, existing between the material and the spiritual, in contact with both. It is the creation of the psychic will of the members of a group, and exists as a connection to the divine.
As we work rituals, the focused mental energy creates and invokes the egregore to fulfill the need of the group. An egregore is not a magical creature, it is not self aware, and is not a Djin, to carry out wishes. The egregore serves as a conduit, a nexus, to connect the group that created/invoked it to the spiritual.

Some egregores are temporary, while some, like the egregore of a lodge, a church, or a country, are the result of the continuous will that creates them, and this will also sustains them. The egregore of freemasonry has existed for centuries, and is the result of the focused will to connect with the spiritual from millions of men.

An egregore is the psychic “entity”. All members of a group, whether it is a club, your family, your lodge, a faith, a political party, a country, or even a single person, are united with the egregore of that group through a psychic connection. As a result, and given the nature of society, we are often included in the sphere of several egregores at once.

The strength and ability of the egregore to aid and assist the members of the group grows over time and through numbers, by drawing support from the members constituting it and through their repeated actions maintain its power. The egregore, in turn, invokes the immaterial and raises us from the material, connecting us to the subtle worlds.

Where the intent is positive and spiritual, the effect of the egregore consists in conveying spirituality to the members as in the initiatic process of the lodge. The intent is to divest the candidate of the profane and connect him to the spiritual, and for most masons, that effect is felt and received most profoundly. To the contrary, in the case of other groups, especially the counter-initiatic ones – which adopt rites and symbols to attain profane or negative goals – the egregore can be quite destructive to the lives and spirits of those members.[6]

Each individual who is involved in a group is influenced by these egregores. For those that reach for a spiritual connection, the egregore assists and facilitates that connection. This process is unconscious, but is intensified through the initiatic process, which is designed to open the mind to the spiritual through the egregore.

A symbolic representation of this may be had in the examination of the Star of David, an emblem of the divine. The top triangle points the heavens, and to the spirit. The bottom triangle points down, to the material and profane. United, they form a new entity, the six-pointed star that represents the unity of the two, from material to the spirit, connection to the divine.

An example of this we are familiar with in Freemasonry is the Compasses and Square. The compass represents the male, the spiritual energy, while the square represents the material. The compasses enclose and define the spiritual, as in the point within a circle, while the square defines the mortal, the material world. United, these two symbols, like the triangles, which form the Star of David, an emblem the represents the divine, so, too, does the square and compasses united, represent the divine, as is shown by the letter G in the middle.

So, the nature of the egregore has been known since time immemorial, as shown above. Its function is that of a guide, and intercessory, to conduct the group members to the spirit and connect them with it. Some groups are connected more powerfully from the profane and mortal side to the spiritual than others, some less so, but to each group according to its intent. As with all things, it is the intent that matters, not the form.

Guénon goes on to state, in reference to the egregore’s influence:

Man has, however, to point out that the Egregore “can never transcend the individual domain since, in the final analysis, it is only a resultant of the component individualities, nor, consequently, can it go beyond the psychic order; now all that is, only psychic can have no effective and direct relationship with initiation since this latter consists essentially in the transmission of a spiritual influence meant to produce effects of a similar spiritual order, thus transcendent with respect to the individuality, whence one obviously must conclude that whatever is able to render effective the initially virtual action of this influence, must itself necessarily have a supra-individual and thus, if one may put it so, a supra-collective character.”[7]

In a lodge of freemasons, the egregore is strengthened by time and experience, and the will and intention of good men. The strength of the egregore is patent in the effect the ritual has on the candidate, and effect that cannot be accounted for simply in the execution of the ritual itself.

We have all experienced the thrill, the exhilaration of the initiation, and the emotional high that carries us for days afterward as the flame is kindled in our breast. This is the spirit the egregore connects us with that fills us and carries us. It is this spirit that breathes in us, inspires us with brotherly love, relief, truth and charity.

The spirit is from the divine. The egregore is the psychic link between the mortal to the spirit. The mason is inspired by the breath of the spirit.

And thus: freemasonry.

References

1 Planetary Magick, Denning & Phillips, (Llewellyn Publications)
2 Golden Dawn Glossary http://www.thelemicgnosticism.org/aa/contacts.htm
3 John Michael Greer, from: Inside a Magical Lodge
4 Egregore by L.S. Bernstein, http://www.crcsite.org/egregor.htm
5 Spiritual Influences and Egregores by René Guénon, in Initiation and Spiritual Realization, Sophia Perennis, Hillsdale, N. Y. p37, paragraph 2
6 So it was in some Nazi esoteric groups, such as Thule or Vril. Also http://www.harare.unesco.org/hivaids/webfiles/Electronic%20Versions/malawi%20lifeskills.doc
7 Spiritual Influences and Egregores by René Guénon, in Initiation and Spiritual Realization, Sophia Perennis, Hillsdale, N. Y. p119

May the blessings of heaven rest upon us and all regular Masons, may brotherly love prevail, and every moral and social virtue, cement us.

Strangelove wrote:

Basically by placing something non-divine on a podium that should only be occupied by Jesus.

Christian Zionists place the nation state of israel there.

Catholics place the pope there.

Word of Faith folks place themselves there.

etc...etc...

Of course its just the idea of the thing they place there not the object itself, therefore the "groupthink" creating the egregore rather than the thing itself....

...I guess?

Strangelove wrote:The kinda stuff that goes on in cell churches then yeah?

Strangelove wrote:Reminds me of this stuff:

http://www.christianforums.net/showthread.php?t=32255&page=1

Change agents, purpose driven, Peter Drucker and all that malarky.