MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS

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Post by Strangelove on Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:48 pm

Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Rev 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

I'll go with Jerusalem:

1. Jerusalem rules the nations through lending money.
2. Jerusalem kills the prophets and saints.
3. Jerusalem is the "great city" where Jesus was killed.
4. Jerusalem sits on 7 mountains.
5. Jerusalem is described as a whore in the Bible.
6. Jerusalem's priests wore purple, red, precious stones, and gold.
7. Jerusalem drinks the cup of wrath.
8. Jerusalem's lovers, the kings of the earth, turn on her to destroy her.
9. Jerusalem is called "Babylon" by Peter in 1 Peter 5:13



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Re: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS

Post by Strangelove on Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:13 pm

John Chingford wrote:I have read through a number of threads and the responses. I notice that
I cannot agree with many who apply Judaism as the whore and Jerusalem
as the Great City.

No John....specifically the ORAL TRADITIONS of the pharisees..I.E. TALMUDISM.

Ya know...?...? the stuff Jesus CONTINUALLY warns us of in the Gospels?

John Chingford wrote:I could say much on this to disprove that theory. However, as it would
involve a massive debate requiring me to spend all my time responding to
the replies (Time I simply do not have - I need to spend time looking
for a job and accommodation) so I hope you don't mind if I do not reply.
However, I DID write a long article on the subject of this thread,
which will show you the position I take. I will say just one thing here.
We cannot build an interpretation based on one or two isolated verses
that are actually a bit vague and could be misinterpreted, such as
Jerusalem being linked to the verse that says "Sodom and Egypt where our
Lord died". It does not say it is Jerusalem.

The early church died en masse in Rome. Paul stated in Phil 3 that he completed what was
lacking in Christ's death and that he united in the fellowship of
suffering for Christ. It is a mystery but indicates that the "spirit"
behind the crucifixion of Jesus continued in Rome by the death of HIS
BODY (which is what the church is called). In a real sense Jesus was
dying in Rome, because the church was dying.

That is a HUGE reach my friend. Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem. Thats it.

John Chingford wrote: However, it is just my interpretation but it does fit with other
scriptures. Your interpretation of Jerusalem being the Great City is
WELL out of context with the rest of the Book of Revelation.

Not at all, and in fact its totally in context with the WHOLE word of God. Jerusalem is referred to as a whore or Harlot THROUGHOUT scripture.

Heres Ezekiel talking to Jerusalem:

(Ezekiel 16:35) Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the LORD:

(Ezekiel 16:36) Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them;


HARLOT - H2181
זנה
zânâh
zaw-naw'

A primitive root (highly fed and therefore wanton); to commit adultery (usually of the female, and less often of simple forniciation, rarely of involuntary ravishment); figuratively to commit idolatry (the Jewish people being regarded as the spouse of Jehovah): - (cause to) commit fornication, X continually, X great, (be an, play the) harlot, (cause to be, play the) whore, (commit, fall to) whoredom, (cause to) go a-whoring, whorish.

Jerusalem:

Isaiah 47:7 You said, 'I will continue forever— the eternal queen!
' But you did not consider these things or reflect on what
mighthappen. 8 "Now then, listen, you wanton creature, lounging in your
security and saying to yourself, 'I am, and there is none besides me. I will never be a widow or suffer the loss of children.' 9 Both of these will overtake you in a moment, on a single day:
loss of children and widowhood. They will come upon you in full
measure, in spite of your many sorceries and all your potent spells.


The Harlot:

Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself,
and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she
saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.


Same same.

The Harlot:


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ev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Jerusalem:

Eze 16:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 16:2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations, ...
Eze 16:37 Behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness.

Eze 16:38 And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy.

Eze 16:39 And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee naked and bare.

Eze 16:40 They shall also bring up a company against thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their swords.


Eze 16:41 And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and execute judgments upon thee in the sight of many women: and I will cause thee to cease from playing the harlot, and thou also shalt give no hire any more.


Jer 4:1 If thou wilt return, O Israel, saith the LORD, return unto me: and if thou wilt put away thine abominations out of my sight, then shalt thou not remove. ..

Jer 4:30 And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.

Jer 4:31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, and the anguish as of her that bringeth forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, that bewaileth herself, that spreadeth her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul is wearied because of murderers.


Same same.

WHO does SCRIPTURE say is responsible for ALL the blood of the prophets?

(Matthew 23:37) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets,
and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have
gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens
under her wings, and ye would not!


Does that verse say O Rome, Rome?

Peter even flat out calls Jerusalem BABYLON:

Paul speaking to the Church at Galatia:

(Galatians 1:18) Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

Peter lived in Jerusalem. As one of the Apostles which were at Jerusalem.

Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at
Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent
unto them Peter and John:


So when he says:

(1 Peter 5:13) The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.

He's talking about the city where he is. He's talking about the remnant Church that is right in the middle of the aposatate Hebrew city of Jerusalem, where abominations abounded.

John Chingford wrote:Since when did Jerusalem have seven heads and 10 horns.

The emporers of Rome and the line of Herod is Jerusalems heads and horns.

John Chingford wrote:The colours of red/purple do not match the colours mentioned in
Leviticus which ALSO include blue. Blue is not mentioned in Revelation.
But there is no blue in the Vatican, so it DOES match the Vatican.
Anyway, as I said, I do not have time to go into all this.

A very minor detail. The 'blue' mentioned in the OT is more like violet..

H8504
תּכלת
tekêleth
tek-ay'-leth
Probably for H7827; the cerulean mussel, that is, the color (violet) obtained therefrom or stuff dyed therewith: - blue.

The 'purple' in Rev 17 is RED BLUE:

G4209
πορφύρα
porphura
por-foo'-rah
Of Latin origin; the “purple” mussel, that is, (by implication) the red blue color itself, and finally, a garment dyed with it: - purple.

Check out the priestly vestments that the revived sanhedrin who are pushin NOAHIDE LAW will be wearing in the rebuilt temple:


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Re: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS

Post by MUSKOKAMAN on Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:08 am

Doc. I just thought of something seeing as Jerusalem is divided in 4 and if their ever gonna rebuild Solomons temple are they not gonna have to demo what now stands there right?

Did you know July 4 2012 is Obama's 1260th day in office? Just a little piece of info that caught my eye!

NWO secures establishment in Jerusalem while eyes of the world are on London?

The straw that broke the camels back??

2012 Olympics....... Psyop? Bait and switch, False flag? Pretense to a 1984 style Government?

Wonder how much Mr. OrWell really knew? Quite a Prophet that man eh? I just tonight noticed how many CC cams we actually have here I knew London had em and some cities in the states but never realized how many times in a day you are being watched by some one and I live in a small town about 15000 people Just at the one plaza alone there were over 30 cameras watching the outside of the buildings and probably that many or more inside as well just never noticed them before with the all seeing eye...creepy man...brrr

144000 true believers within the walls when? ..................hmmmm....ahh timing prolly aint no good anyway just some ramblin's Doc.

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