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Post by PneumaPsucheSoma on Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:19 pm

Tell me about theories of what happened to the planes and occupants since the holograms/CGIs weren't planes and the buildings were vaporized by HAARP weaponry.

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Post by zone on Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:45 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:Tell me about theories of what happened to the planes and occupants since the holograms/CGIs weren't planes and the buildings were vaporized by HAARP weaponry.

the Directed Energy Weapons is the #1 issue that is causing CHAOS and outrage and banning and trouble all over 9-11 forums...its apparently the big TABOO!

you can posit just about anything but THAT! which tells me that's exactly what they used.
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Post by Strangelove on Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:35 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:Tell me about theories of what happened to the planes and occupants since the holograms/CGIs weren't planes and the buildings were vaporized by HAARP weaponry.

This is one of the reasons that established 9-11 'truthers' and authors cite that dont want to talk about no-plane theory. They say that your average citizen simply cant come to terms with the most obvious answer, which is that they landed the plane somewhere and gassed the people inside, then disposed of the bodies. (most obvious answer).

People can apparently handle the government murdering its own people by dropping a building on them but not 'real' up close killing.

??

So the 911 'experts' say that no-planers are scaring off potential new blood....or summink?

http://nomoregames.net/2012/01/14/no-planes-media-one-and-done/

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Post by PneumaPsucheSoma on Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:07 am

Strangelove wrote:

This is one of the reasons that established 9-11 'truthers' and authors cite that dont want to talk about no-plane theory. They say that your average citizen simply cant come to terms with the most obvious answer, which is that they landed the plane somewhere and gassed the people inside, then disposed of the bodies. (most obvious answer).

People can apparently handle the government murdering its own people by dropping a building on them but not 'real' up close killing.

??

So the 911 'experts' say that no-planers are scaring off potential new blood....or summink?

http://nomoregames.net/2012/01/14/no-planes-media-one-and-done/

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Exactly my thoughts. Just wanted to see what you thought.

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Post by PneumaPsucheSoma on Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:09 am

zone wrote:

the Directed Energy Weapons is the #1 issue that is causing CHAOS and outrage and banning and trouble all over 9-11 forums...its apparently the big TABOO!

you can posit just about anything but THAT! which tells me that's exactly what they used.

Setting phasers to "kill" now, Cap'm.

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Post by zone on Thu May 10, 2012 4:58 pm

*HOLOGRAMS / PROJECTIONS*


Claim:
Just the idea that planes were projected in the air is loony tune crazy!

FACT: This technology was reported in the media before 9/11 pertaining to military psychological operations (PSYOPS).


Washington Post
“When Seeing and Hearing
Isn't Believing”
By William M. Arkin
February 1, 1999

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=2970


A few notable quotes (emphasis added):


According to a military physicist given the task of looking into the hologram idea, the feasibility had been established of projecting large, three-dimensional objects that appeared to float in the air.



…washingtonpost.com has learned that a super secret program was established in 1994 to pursue the very technology for PSYOPS application. The "Holographic Projector" is described in a classified Air Force document as a system to "project information power from space ... for special operations deception missions."



Voice-morphing? Fake video? Holographic projection? They sound more like Mission Impossible and Star Trek gimmicks than weapons. Yet for each, there are corresponding and growing research efforts as the technologies improve and offensive information warfare expands.




*EYEWITNESS REPORTS*


Claim:
Thousands upon thousands of New Yorkers witnessed commercial airliners hit the
towers.

FACT: Few people reported hearing and seeing planes. Most testimonies of those who did are inconsistent with that of a wide-body commercial airliner hitting a building at
800 feet altitude, full throttle.


A jet plane takeoff at 300 feet altitude is 10 times louder than a rock concert:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy99/phy99405.htm

Wide body commercial airliners are LOUD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJliayH6co
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldIEzBMI6qA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ph-66g5L1g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1YHn9c3AAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7vhL0Mm9bw


A very small percentage of the approximately 500 First Responders at the WTC
reported seeing commercial airliners. An even smaller number reported hearing them. However, they had no trouble hearing the fighter jets later on. See this analysis of the WTC Task Force Interviews for full information:

Going in Search of Planes in NYC - by Andrew Johnson
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/inde...d=134&Itemid=60


Two examples…

WTC Task Force Interview
Stephen Gregory
Assistant
Commissioner, Bureau of Communications

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyreg...HIC/9110008.PDF

Excerpts
(pages 20-21) (emphasis added):


Q. Where were you when the second plane hit?
A. We were down at the command post between Liberty and Albany on the west side of West Street. …

Q. Did you see or hear the second plane before it hit the World Trade Center?

A. I never actually saw the plane, but l heard it. You could hear it coming in and then we heard the explosion and you could hear the roar of the plane coming in. At first I didn't realize it was a plane. I thought it was like the roar of fire, like
something had just incinerated, like a gas tank or an oil tank. It sounded like
a tremendous roar and then you heard boom and then there was a big fire, a lot
of fire, a big fireball. I never actually saw a plane hit the building. I never saw that. I saw it on television, but I never saw it while I was standing there.


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Post by zone on Thu May 10, 2012 5:00 pm

WTC Task Force Interview
Murray Murad
Lieutenant Investigator, Bureau
of Investigations and Trials

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyreg...HIC/9110009.PDF

Excerpts
(pages 2-5) (emphasis added) [my comments in brackets]:


Well, I
was conducting business down on Greenwich and Liberty at Engine 10, Truck 10, on
that day.



It was about 8:41 that we heard a plane hovering over
the fire house. It sounded like the plane was right on top of us.
[400MPH
airplanes do not “hover”]



So about two or three minutes after
hearing it, you heard something like revving. We took a look, and, boom, the
north tower is hit.
[Is “two or three minutes” realistic? Being that
400 MPH is well over 5 mile a minute, did Murad also hear planes take off and
land at LaGuardia Airport, approximately 10 miles
away?]



Maybe about 10 to 12-minutes after that first plane, I
heard another plane. Then I said to myself, we're being attacked.

I ran
downstairs. No sooner did I run downstairs and look up, that I saw the second
plane strike the south tower. It was such a vicious hit and such a precision
hit, it was unbelievable.
[How come he didn’t report the deafening sound
of a 500+ MPH commercial jet right above hit head?]


==========================================

A
precision hit all right. But… retired commercial airline / military pilot, Russ
Wittenberg,
who flew for Pan Am and United for over 30 years, piloted Flight
93 (Shanksville) and Flight 175 (South Tower) before 9/11. He says the alleged
hijackers could not have flown those planes:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3606159506368831731

==========================================


This
analysis of the book “Never Forget: An Oral History of September 11, 2001” also has
some interesting quotes:


The Original No Planers: Most Witnesses
at the WTC Heard And Saw No Planes

By Morgan Reynolds
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&...inal_no_planers


A
few selected quotes (emphasis added):


• Gary Smiley, 38, FDNY
paramedic,
was carrying an injured woman across Church Street who kept
yelling "plane" and Smiley recalled, "I looked up at that point, and that's when
the second plane hit the South Tower. The explosion was unbelievable. It was
right over my head. You didn't hear anything. People ask me sometimes, 'What did
you hear?' I heard nothing.
"


• John Abruzzo, 43, staff
accountant, Port Authority, and C5-C6 quadriplegic:
"I worked on the 69th
floor of the North Tower...My desk faces north. I can see over my partition out
the north windows. I don't remember hearing any sound, or an explosion.
But I do remember that the building suddenly swayed, and that it swayed in one
direction only. I thought the building was going to collapse right then and
there. We've been in storms, you know, where the building sways back and forth,
but that's nothing...it took an hour and a half to get from the 69th floor down
to the street level, and another ten to fifteen minutes to get to Stuyvesant
High School."


• Steven Bienkowski, 37, NYPD Harbor Unit Scuba
Team:
"I happened to be sitting in the back left side of the (helicopter)
ship. There were two pilots, two crew chiefs, my partner, and I. We were on the
southwest side of the South Tower, and I glanced over my shoulder and there
came a United Airlines aircraft right at us, a little bit underneath where we
were. And I do mean a little bit underneath us. It probably missed us by about
three hundred feet, and it proceeded to fly right through the building, right in
front of us.
I must have gone numb. I don't remember hearing an
explosion, although it must have been extremely loud.
I don't remember the
helicopter moving...When that second plane went into the building, it just looked like an evil magician's trick. It
looked nothing like what I would have imagined a plane crashing into a building
would look like. The plane just completely disappeared and turned into a giant
fireball. Being there was surreal.
I guess the brain tries to protect you in
times like that. You have some kind of defense mechanism in there that shuts
down some of your senses. It just doesn't allow you to
believe."



==========================================

An
interesting fact:
CameraPlanet was responsible for collecting the amateur
footage on 9/11.
Its owner, Steven Rosenbaum, is a magician:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070606092618/...rs.com/node/555

==========================================


Some
witnesses reported explosions, bombs and missiles. A few
examples:


National Review has this quote: “I saw it," he
says, "It could have been a plane, but I think it was a bomb — uh, a missile.
This could be World War III."

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock052402.asp

The
BBC reports:
I distinctly remember somebody saying: “A missile just hit
the trade center, I saw a missile hit.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/worl...when/html/1.stm

According
to a CNN transcript, a reporter said:
a small plane -- I did -- it looked
like a propeller plane, came in from the west.
An eyewitness also
states:
I had no idea it was a plane. I just saw the entire top part of
the World Trade Center explode. So I turned on the TV when I heard they said it
was a plane. It was really strange.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.01.html

This
eyewitness specifically says NO plane, just a bomb:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0eC3uns3pA




MUCH MORE:

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=163&Itemid=60

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Re: 911 Inside Job

Post by zone on Thu May 10, 2012 5:04 pm

Strangelove wrote:
of course it was a hologram - we knew that at the time Doc!
anybody watching those reruns knew it was un-natural.
the 'plane' just melts into the building. and the building just melts to the ground.
devilish.

i can't believe they still have shills working the Christian forums trying to push the party line. or maybe they're just figgerin out their rainbow lists.
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Post by Strangelove on Sun May 27, 2012 11:37 am

Letter from Maxwell Bridges (Vatic Project) to leaders of the 911 truth movement:

Dear Mr. Jonathan Cole, Mr. Richard Gage, and Mr. Gregg Roberts,

Maybe I am the ultimate "duped useful idiot", because evidence at various points has convinced me of pods on planes, nano-thermite, DEW, milli-nukes, no-planes, CIT flyover, simVictims, hollow towers, etc. Of course, convincing debunking has had me cycle away from many of these, after which yet more evidence and analysis brings some of them back to the forefront as my current position.

Your recent article "AE911Truth FAQ #6: What’s Your Assessment of the Directed Energy Weapon (DEW) Hypothesis?" does not do justice to the topic or Dr. Judy Wood's textbook. I encourage you to make another thorough reading of her book and mine it for nuggets of truth.

I'm not saying that elements of her conclusions might not ultimately belong in the disinformation category. The danger that we must overcome when faced with concerted covert/overt disinformation campaigns (which is all around 9/11) is in too quickly dismissing a person and all of their conclusions, which then consequently dismisses all of the evidence and truths upon which their conclusions are built.

This is in fact what has happened and is happening with Dr. Judy Wood's efforts. It is good and well when your scientific and scholarly efforts find issues with her analysis and conclusions. But when your own theories that the Truth Movement lines up to march behind do not address the glaring evidence that Dr. Wood at least attempts, then your theories come up short. Worse, you know it.

Continues here: Directed Energy Weapons

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Post by zone on Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:52 pm

lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

9/11 Terrorist Mastermind Dyes Beard with Berries and Juice
The mastermind behind the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks dyes his beard using fruit juice and crushed berries, the Pentagon announced.

By Rachel Hirshfeld
First Publish: 10/25/2012, 1:38 PM


Artist's stretch of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Reuters

The mastermind behind the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks dyes his beard using fruit juice and crushed berries, a Pentagon spokesman said Wednesday.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was regarded as one of Osama bin Laden's most trusted lieutenants, presumably used hair dye in the past to obtain his beard's reddish color.

However, spectators remained perplexed as to how he has managed to maintain his beard’s color during years of detention, as prisoners are prohibited from receiving hair dyes because they consist of chemicals that could be used as a weapon.

A Pentagon spokesman told AFP that the secret is in the fruits and juices served from time to time at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba where he is detained.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/161328#.UIlQmMU7150



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Post by Strangelove on Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:45 pm

An amateur put this together:


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Post by zone on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:06 pm

Amazing Doc.

They're in so much trouble at the moment trying to contain the lies and stuff that Bibi is most certainly going to make something go bang here. He's up for re-election in Feb.

He didn't get Mitt.

It's the next logical step.
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Post by zone on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:09 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:Tell me about theories of what happened to the planes and occupants since the holograms/CGIs weren't planes and the buildings were vaporized by HAARP weaponry.

I've since looked into this pps, and at least one of the planes never really existed.
I doubt there were any occupants on any planes that left the ground. Any that were boarded likely just taxied to a hanger and got snuffed.
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Post by Strangelove on Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:15 pm

New York, where I lost my mind...now shipwrecked in denial. I know, I know it was in New York.



Lyrics remind me of 911.

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Post by PneumaPsucheSoma on Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:19 am

zone wrote:

I've since looked into this pps, and at least one of the planes never really existed.
I doubt there were any occupants on any planes that left the ground. Any that were boarded likely just taxied to a hanger and got snuffed.

And Flight 93?

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Two 9/11 Airliners, Flight 93 and 175, Just Recently Taken Off FAA 'Active' List. Are Both Jetliners Still Flying in United's 'Friendly Skies'?

FAA records for four years listed both 9/11 United jetliners as still on the 'active' list. Now planes only 'deregistered' in September after snoopy researchers questioned FAA officials a month earlier.


25 Nov 2005
By Greg Szymanski

Two of the 9/11 airliners were never ‘deregistered’ and remained on the ‘active’ flight list until Sept. 28. 2005, the classification officially changing only a month after two inquisitive flight researchers made repeated calls to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), inquiring about the strange irregularity.

The two planes in question were Flight 93 and Flight 175, both owned and operated by United Airlines and, according to the official story, both destroyed on 9/11, one in Shanksville, Penn., and the other crashing into the South Tower of the WTC.

Usually a normal procedure after an airliner is destroyed, why it took United more than four years to ‘deregister’ the airplanes and fill out the official FAA paperwork remains a mystery and never has been fully explained by the FAA, United or the government.

In fact, in stark contrast, a check of FAA records shows the two other American Airline flights, Flight 11 and 77, both were ‘deregistered’ and classified as ‘destroyed’ only months after 9/11 on Jan. 14, 2002.

Why the late filing by United?

“My brother and I both wrote the FAA in August about this situation and asked why the planes were not deregistered. The FAA said that an owner does not need to deregister an aircraft,” said one of the researchers named Roger, who preferred only to use his first name. “Ironically, a couple of months after I wrote the FAA, the planes were deregistered. What's up with that?

“Although the planes are deregistered, they are not listed as cause destroyed but rather as cause cancelled. The American airplanes are clearly listed as cause destroyed but not so the United planes.

“There is a guy who was saying on a web posting that he knew one of the United planes was still in service in Chicago. I know nothing of how he would know this or who he was but I think he was the same guy who brought this stuff to our attention and he's clearly right about the planes still being registered.

“Two planes destroyed and two planes still flying? Are you familiar with the Cleveland airport mystery? So did Flight 93 land at Cleveland with 200 passengers on board?”

A recent check of FAA records proves the flight researcher’s statements correct as Flight 93 identified as N591UA and Flight 175 as N612UA, both were taken off the active FAA list in September with a reason given as ‘cancelled’ not ‘destroyed.’

The FAA again was contacted this week, giving the same answers given to the two researchers back in August regarding the late deregistration. And in regards to listing both United flights as ‘cancelled not destroyed,’ FAA officials also gave no further explanation.

Besides the FAA deregistration issue, solid evidence has also come forward that two of the 9/11 flights, Flight 11 and 77, never even existed at all, according to Bureau of Traffic Safety (BTS) records.

According to BTS statistics, both 11 and 77 officially never took-off on 9/11. The meticulous data kept on every airliner taking-off at every airport in the country also showed no elapsed run-way time, wheels-off time and taxi-out time, not to mention several other categories left blank on 9/11 concerning the two flights.


Although Flights 11 and 77 have the above data meticulously logged on 9/10, it was suspiciously absent on 9/11, even when every other plane that took of that day had been recorded and logged by the BTS.

Why the discrepancy? No one has ever given an official explanation for the BTS missing flight data, even though it is well known that airports are extremely concerned about recording accurate BTS data for each and every flight in and out of its airport for liability purposes.

More importantly critics contend this is another clear indication Flight 11 and 77 were only ‘phantom flights,” adding even further doubt to the credibility of the official government story concerning 9/11.

Besides the FAA and BTS irregularities, the official flight lists from all four flights have been a serious bone of contention for 9/11 critics, who call attention to the glaring errors and conflicting passenger numbers on many of the flight lists released, many coming from unverified sources.

On Flight 11, for example, American Airlines released two different lists containing 77 and 75 names the day after 9/11, but the Washington Post published 89 names the same day while the Boston Daily published 89 names with conflicting names, however. Remember, complicating matters worse, Fox News all along was still claiming that only 81 names were confirmed a week later.

Through out the years, not only have the numbers conflicted but so have the names on the lists. Gerald Holmgren, a 9/11 researcher who has spent much time and effort researching the flight irregularities found one of the most glaring errors never explained by the airlines or the government.

Holmgren, whose compilation of 9/11 flight data can be found at http://indymedia.all2all.org/news/2004/05/84711.php, uncovered that four of the alleged passengers on American Airlines Flight 11 with the last names of Ward, Weems, Roux and Jalbert also mysteriously and unexplainable were also listed as passengers on Flight 175 that struck the South Tower.

Holmgren in his 2004 article had this to say:

“What a mess! This crime - the murder of approximately 3000 people, and the excuse for two wars and alarming attacks on civil liberties - and presumably more to come - is supposed to have been properly investigated and documented? Why should we be expected to believe who the hijackers were, when the spin doctors can't even do a credible fabrication job of a list of innocent victims?

“It's previously been demanded by many skeptics that we need to see a verifiable official passenger list which actually contains the names of the alleged hijackers. We can now take the implications of that further and point to the absence of any passenger list documentation for AA11 which stands up to scrutiny as a credible document. We have nothing which could support the existence of any of the alleged passengers on the alleged flight.”

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"....Didn't think much more about it until the authorities started to say there had been no other plane. The plane I saw was heading right to the point where Flight 93 crashed and must have been there at the very moment it came down.

"There's no way I imagined this plane - it was so low it was virtually on top of me. It was white with no markings but it was definitely military, it just had that look.

"It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side. I haven't found one like it on the internet. It definitely wasn't one of those executive jets. The FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around.

"Then they changed their story and tried to say it was a plane taking pictures of the crash 3,000ft up...."

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Post by zone on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:18 pm

Flight 93 Crash Witnesses
Saw Only A Saab Jet


From Jon Carlson
carlson.jon@cheqnet.ne
6-28-4

Photos of the Saab 105 SK60 series military jet.

http://user.tninet.se/~xpz458v/SAAB105-SK60_english.htm
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/text/60saab105.html
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/img/saab/

This plane fits the description given by eye witnesses. It is a 2 seater allowing one person to pilot in tight formation right above the airliner and another person to remote-control the other plane. The plane remote-controlled to Australia had a second plane monitoring it apparently capable of adjusting directions if the original computer flight plan failed. Obviously a jet not normally flown in this country would be hard to identify. It has a top speed of over 1000 mph and is extremely maneuverable. The Austria Air Force flies them as does Sweden.

Interesting that the Flight 93 Mirror article mentions a small WHITE jet that several witnesses saw but the FBI claims to be a 'business jet" or never existed. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=
12192317&method=full&siteid=50143

Flight 93 article on jethttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?
objectid=12192317&method=full&siteid=50143

http://www.thepowerhour.com/postings-three/flight-93-shot-down.htm

"There's no way I imagined this plane - it was so low it was virtually on top of me. It was white with no markings but it was definitely military, it just had that look.

"It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side. I haven't found one like it on the internet. It definitely wasn't one of those executive jets. The FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around.

FURTHER verification that some kind of military aircraft was operating in the area is scientifically irrefutable.

At 9.22am a sonic boom - caused by supersonic flight - was picked up by an earthquake monitoring station in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles from Shanksville.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30682

"As soon as we looked up, we saw a mid-sized jet flying low and fast," Decker told the Record. "It appeared to make a loop or part of a circle, and then it turned fast and headed out. " Describing the plane as a Lear-jet type, with engines mounted near the tail and painted white with no identifying markings, Decker said, "If you were here to see it, you'd have no doubt. It was a jet plane, and it had to be flying real close when that 757 went down."

http://rense.com/general54/flight93crashwitnesses.htm


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Re: 911 Inside Job

Post by zone on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:27 pm

WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE?

This is seemingly a huge problem with the whole "no plane" theory. Real people died on 9/11. There is no denying that. However, the passenger lists are actually supportive pieces of evidence to the idea of "no planes." The 4 planes all had low loads -- less than 200 people total were onboard, including the crew. It turns out that many of the names were employees of Boeing and other military contractors or were in the military itself. The government set up a compensation fund for families of the victims of 9/11. Each family would receive $2 million compensation. Only a small percentage of the families entitled to money came forward to collect! For one plane of 40 victims, only 6 families tried to claim the $2 million! Moreover, six of the alleged hijackers were seen after 9/11. One of them spoke in length with his father the next day. Another hijacker was interviewed on the BBC on 9/12! One must ask, "How can a pilot fly a plane into a building and do an interview on the BBC the next day?!"

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Post by zone on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:31 pm

Pilots for 9/11 Truth

There are many more reasons why the idea of airplanes does not hold water. Pilots for Truth realize the many problems with this notion. So I ask, "If there were no planes, what happened?" That is a great question. So far, the evidence suggests that cruise missiles were flown into the Pentagon and WTC 1 and 2. (Of course nothing hit WTC 7 -- it imploded seemingly by itself.) The cruise missiles projected a hologram of a Boeing 767 over NYC. They didn't bother projecting anything over the Pentagon. Flight 93 most likely never took place. "Let's roll" was some creative writing, as was "Hi mom, it's your son Mark Bingham. You know who I am? [I'm about to crash and die.]" It turns out that cell phone calls from planes were not possible in 2001.* The Flight 93 calls could have been faked with available Voice Morphing Technology.**

Nearly 3000 people died for a false flag to justify a false war. There were no weapons of mass destruction. The U.S. simply wanted to proceed with military control of the Middle East.

*The calls from Flight 93 were made from an altitude between 34,300 feet and 40,700 feet. Canadian scientist and mathematician A.K. Dewdney determined that cell phone calls at an altitude of 20,000 feet could be completed at a rate of less than 1 in 100 in 2001. Higher altitudes would have been more difficult. The chances of two callers making successful calls would have been less than 1 in 10,000. According to reports, there were 9 cell phone calls from Flight 93 at an altitude of over 30,000ft.

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OPERATION NORTHWOODS

Post by zone on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:40 pm

Operation Northwoods
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Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962).[1]

Operation Northwoods was a series of false-flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962, but were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2] The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro.[3] One part of Operation Northwoods was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."

In response to a request for pretexts for military intervention by the Chief of Operations of the Cuba Project, Brig. Gen. Edward Lansdale, the document listed methods, and outlined plans, that the authors believed would garner public and international support for U.S. military intervention in Cuba. According to Jacob Hornberger:

“ The plan called for U.S. personnel to disguise themselves as agents of the Cuban government and to engage in terrorist attacks on the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay. It also called for terrorist attacks within the United States that would be conducted by pro-U.S. forces disguising themselves as Cuban agents.

One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane. The JCS proposed that a real plane containing American passengers would be hijacked by friendly forces disguised as Cuban agents. The plane would drop down off the radar screen and be replaced by a pilotless aircraft, which would crash, purportedly killing all the passengers. Under the plan, the real passenger plane would be secretly flown back to the United States.[12]

More specifically, the plan called for the following:

Since it would seem desirable to use legitimate provocation as the basis for US military intervention in Cuba a cover and deception plan, to include requisite preliminary actions such as has been developed in response to Task 33 c, could be executed as an initial effort to provoke Cuban reactions. Harassment plus deceptive actions to convince the Cubans of imminent invasion would be emphasized. Our military posture throughout execution of the plan will allow a rapid change from exercise to intervention if Cuban response justifies.

A series of well coordinated incidents will be planned to take place in and around Guantanamo to give genuine appearance of being done by hostile Cuban forces.

a. Incidents to establish a credible attack (not in chronological order):
Start rumors (many). Use clandestine radio.
Land friendly Cubans in uniform "over-the-fence" to stage attack on base.
Capture Cuban (friendly) saboteurs inside the base.
Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans).[13]
Blow up ammunition inside the base; start fires.
Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).
Lob mortar shells from outside of base into base. Some damage to installations.
Capture assault teams approaching from the sea or vicinity of Guantanamo City.
Capture militia group which storms the base.
Sabotage ship in harbor; large fires—napthalene.
Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims (may be in lieu of (10)).

b. United States would respond by executing offensive operations to secure water and power supplies, destroying artillery and mortar emplacements which threaten the base.

c. Commence large scale United States military operations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods


The plane would drop down off the radar screen and be replaced by a pilotless aircraft, which would crash, purportedly killing all the passengers.

drones fully operational in 1962
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Post by zone on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:51 pm

FUN AND GAMES DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE....INTERLUDE....


zone wrote:Operation Northwoods
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962).[1]

Operation Northwoods was a series of false-flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962, but were rejected by the Kennedy administration.



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Post by zone on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:53 pm

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Meyer Lansky (born Meyer Suchowljansky;[1] July 4, 1902 – January 15, 1983), known as the "Mob's Accountant," was a Russian-born American organized crime figure who, along with his associate Charles "Lucky" Luciano, was instrumental in the development of the "National Crime Syndicate" in the United States. For decades he was thought to be one of the most powerful people in the country.

Lansky developed a gambling empire which stretched from Saratoga, New York to Miami to Council Bluffs, Iowa and Las Vegas; it is also said that he oversaw gambling concessions in Cuba. Although a member of the Jewish Mob, Lansky undoubtedly had strong influence with the Italian Mafia and played a large role in the consolidation of the criminal underworld (although the full extent of this role has been the subject of some debate).

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Post by zone on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:58 pm

Meyer Lansky, original name Maier Suchowljansky (born July 4, 1902, [officially assigned date by U.S. authorities], Grodno, Russia—died Jan. 15, 1983, Miami Beach, Fla., U.S.), one of the most powerful and richest of U.S. crime syndicate chiefs and bankers, who had major interests in gambling, especially in Florida, pre-Castro Cuba, Las Vegas, and the Bahamas.

A Polish Jew born in Russia’s Pale of Settlement, Lansky immigrated with his parents to New York’s Lower East Side in 1911. By 1918 he and Bugsy Siegel were running a floating crap game and then graduated into highly lucrative auto theft and resale. In the course of the 1920s Lansky’s gang branched into burglaries, liquor smuggling, and other rackets and came under the aegis of crime boss Giuseppe Masseria. Lansky and Siegel had also developed a squad of professional murderers for hire, the prototype for the later Murder, Inc., headed by Louis Buchalter and Albert Anastasia. Lansky became a naturalized citizen in 1928.

It was allegedly Lansky who persuaded Lucky Luciano to have Masseria assassinated in 1931 and loaned Bugsy Siegel for the purpose, making the four-man hit team representative of the major New York factions. Between 1932 and 1934 Lansky joined Luciano and Johnny Torrio, among others, in forming the national crime syndicate and became one of its major overseers and bankers, often laundering funds through foreign accounts.

By 1936 Lansky had begun to develop gambling operations in Florida and New Orleans and also in Cuba, where he arranged payoffs to Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista. He also financed Bugsy Siegel’s casino developments in Las Vegas (and ordered Siegel’s execution in 1947, when Siegel welshed on the syndicate). When Fidel Castro came to power in Cuba in 1959, Lansky turned to the Bahamas, building casinos on Grand Bahama and Paradise islands in the 1960s after nurturing government cooperation. He also extended his gambling empire to other areas of the Caribbean and even across the Atlantic to London. He was also into narcotics smuggling, pornography, prostitution, labour racketeering, and extortion and had control of such legitimate enterprises as hotels, golf courses, and a meat-packing plant. Monies were secreted in Swiss banks. By 1970 his total holdings were estimated at $300,000,000.

In 1970, fearing both a call to a grand jury and indictment for income-tax evasion, he fled to Israel, seeking to remain under the Law of Return; however, Israel eventually expelled him, and he ended up back in the United States facing several indictments. In 1973 he was convicted of grand jury contempt, a verdict overturned on appeal, but acquitted of income-tax evasion. Indictments on other charges were abandoned in 1974, partly because of his chronic ill health. In 1979 the House of Representatives Assassinations Committee, ending its two-year investigation of the Warren Commission report, linked Lansky with Jack Ruby, the nightclub owner who killed presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald.

Lansky died of lung cancer and was buried in Miami in an Orthodox Jewish ceremony.

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Re: 911 Inside Job

Post by Strangelove on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:59 pm

Under the plan, the real passenger plane would be secretly flown back to the United States.

And then what?

Whats the plan for the real American passengers? Just let them go?

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Post by zone on Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:03 pm

Strangelove wrote:

And then what?

Whats the plan for the real American passengers? Just let them go?

Yeah as if, eh.
Wouldnt wanna hurt anybody Rolling Eyes
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Post by PneumaPsucheSoma on Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:22 pm

Meh... Ingestion of enough beer nuts could kill the whole bunch en masse.

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