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Re: Stationary Earth

Post by lifepsyop on Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:29 pm

Strangelove wrote:

Great presentation.

Really looking forward to The Principle release, and then this is going to become a lot more difficult to ignore, which should be interesting.

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Re: Stationary Earth

Post by Strangelove on Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:04 am

lifepsyop wrote:

Great presentation.

Really looking forward to The Principle release, and then this is going to become a lot more difficult to ignore, which should be interesting.

Yeah I'm looking forward to it too although scrappy in-fighting between the mainstream Catholic media and the films producers could take the gloss off the product.

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Post by lifepsyop on Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:11 pm

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Yeah I'm looking forward to it too although scrappy in-fighting between the mainstream Catholic media and the films producers could take the gloss off the product.

One thing that bugs me is that the producers keep stressing that Geocentrism is a specifically "catholic" worldview when it is really simply a Biblical worldview, coming from a plain reading of Genesis.

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Post by Strangelove on Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:27 pm

Well, I tried to sort out whether the catholic hierarchy still support the Geo model when I challenged the producer of The Principle in the following thread:

Catholic Chain of Command

Not enough time to discuss it obviously. He also blocked me on Facebook.

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Post by Strangelove on Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:09 pm

"The work, published in 1543, was called On the Revolution of the Celestial Spheres. It stated that the center of the universe was a spot somewhere near the sun...The scheme met the requirements of philosophical and theological belief in circular motion. In every other respect, however, Copernicus struck at the heart of Aristotelian and Christian belief. He removed the Earth from the center of the universe and so from the focus of God’s purpose. In the new scheme man was no longer the creature for whose use and elucidation the cosmos had been created. His system also placed the Earth in the heavens, and in doing so removed the barrier separating the incorruptible from the corruptible."

- James Burke, The Day the Universe Changed, p. 135

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Post by Strangelove on Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:24 am

"If we were to adopt a frame of reference like Tycho’s in which the Earth is at rest, then the distant galaxies would seem to be executing circular turns once a year, and in general relativity this enormous motion would create forces akin to gravitation, which would act on the Sun and planets and give them the motions of the Tychonic theory. Newton seems to have had a hint of this. In an unpublished ‘Proposition 43’ that did not make it into the Principia, Newton acknowledges that Tycho’s theory could be true if some other force besides ordinary gravitation acted on the Sun and planets."

- Steven Weinberg, To Explain the World: The Discovery of Modern Science, Harper Collins, 2015, pp. 251-252.

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Post by Strangelove on Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:33 am

"In order for the Earth to be at rest in the center of the system of the Sun, Planets, and Comets, there is required both universal gravity and another force in addition that acts on all bodies equally according to the quantity of matter in each of them and is equal and opposite to the accelerative gravity with which the Earth tends to the Sun... For, such a force, acting on all bodies equally and along parallel lines, does not change their position among themselves, and permits bodies to move among themselves through the force of universal gravity in the same way as if it were not acting on them.

Since this force is equal and opposite to its gravity toward the Sun, the Earth can truly remain in equilibrium between these two forces and be at rest. And thus celestial bodies can move around the Earth at rest, as in the Tychonic system."

- Newton, Proposition 43.

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Post by Strangelove on Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:24 am

“This ‘null’ result was one of the great puzzles of physics at the end of the nineteenth century. One possibility was that...v would be zero and no fringe shift would be expected. But this implies that the earth is somehow a preferred object; only with respect to the earth would the speed of light be c as predicted by Maxwell’s equations.


This is tantamount to assuming that the earth is the central body of the universe.”

- Douglas C. Giancoli, Physics: Principles with Applications, 1985, pp. 613-614 and 1980, p. 625.

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