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Banned From Talk Jesus For Posting "Inappropriate Content"
by northwye Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:32 pm
Banned From Talk Jesus For Posting "Inappropriate Content"
Talk Jesus is a dispensationalist forum, similar to the Rapture Ready forum on the Internet. On March 20, 2009 a guy posted on Talk Jesus an exposure of the practices of Rapture Ready, called "Beware of Rapture Ready Forum." He said that Rapture Ready banned people because they disagreed with the dispensationalist positions of its moderators. Now, Talk Jesus is also threatening to censor, censoring, and banning members for making statements which disagree with the dispensationalist positions of the moderators. About a month ago they banned a guy who tended to agree with my posts.
If Talk Jesus were to openly state in its rules which anyone can find and read who is interested in joining the forum that Talk Jesus does not allow criticism of dispensationmalism and does not allow mention of certain individuals, that would discourage many from joining. On the other hand, if Talk Jesus does not do that, then censoring posts critical of dispensationalism is dishonest.- and not a good idea for growing membership.
Talk Jesus said:
"Your message (Isaiah 3: 1-12, II Peter 2: 6 and Jude 1: 7 Applied To the USA - July of 2015) contains inappropriate content:"
tulsa 2011
"I have seen dispensationalists pull verses 1 and 2 out of Romans 11:1-5 and claim these verses prove that Old Covenant Israel was not done away with. But Romans 11: 1-5 should be read as one text on the remnant of Old Covenant Israel brought into whatever you want to call it, the Israel of God, Israel born again in Christ, or the Body of Christ. In verses 3-4 Paul gets into the remnant of Old Covenant Israel in citing I Kings 19:14-18, where Elijah said to God that he, Elijah, was the only faithful one left, but God told him that he had seven thousand who had not bowed their knees to Baal. This seven thousand was the remnant then. Then in verse 5 Paul states that at that time there was a remnant according to the election of grace. This is the remnant of Old Covenant Israel in which God began his plan of redemption again. But this was not just a restoration of the Old Covenant as happened when Zerubbabel, Nehemiah and Ezra led a remnant back to Jerusalem from the captivity in Babylon to rebuild the wall and the temple and restore Old Covenant Israel. The remnant Paul refers to in Romans 11: 5 was the remnant which were the beginnings of a spiritual transformation of Israel. Hosea 2: 23 predicts the Gentiles would be brought into Israel and Haggai 2: 9 says "The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former....." Where is this in dispensationalism?
http://www.talkjesus.com/
"Talk Jesus a friendly worldwide community
You have been banned for the following reason: Rules violations"
The topic of my thread on Talk Jesus was the application of Isaiah 3: 1-12, II Peter 2: 6 and Jude 1: 7 to the USA in 2015. Then, a few people on the site began arguing against that application, mainly from Isaiah 3: 1-12, that the people oppress one another, that the children, or child-like, behave proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honorable. II Peter 2: 6 is about the judgment on Sodom and Gomorrah and Jude 1: 7 is on judgment for homosexuality.
The comments shifted the topic away from judgment for homosexuaity to metaphoric Babylon as a symbol for apostasy in both covenants (Jeremiah 50 and 51 and Revelation 17 and 18) and to the predilection for literalist interpretations.
Someone on that dispensationalist forum asked me to explain my position on Romans 11: 1-5 because I had said this on the thread about Isaiah 3: 1-12, II Peter 2: 6 and Jude 1: 7, that "Dispensationalism cannot accept this set of scriptures: Romans, 9: 6, Romans 11: 1-5, Romans 11: 17-20, I Corinthians 10: 18, Ephesians 2: 11-19, John 10: 16, Romans 12: 4-5, Ephesians 4: 4 and Galatians 3: 3, 16, 26-29. The agreement among these texts contradicts the foundations of dispensationalism, that God now has two peoples, Old Covenant Israel and the Capital C Church, that the multitude of Old Covenant Israel are still the chosen people by virtue of their bloodline, and that a consistent literal method of interpretation must be used."
My reply is quoted above, which the administration of Talk Jesus seemed to use as their reason for banning me.
The point in commenting on Talk Jesus and its banning me for critical statements on dispensationmalism is that this cult-like behavior supports what Fearless Dave MacPhearson said about dispensationalists, that "When I began my research in 1970 into the exact beginnings of the pretribulation rapture belief still held by many evangelicals, I assumed that the rapture debate involved only "godly scholars with honest differences." The paper you are now reading reveals why I gave up that assumption many years ago. With this introduction-of-sorts in mind, let's take a long look at the pervasive dishonesty throughout the history of the 179-year-old pretrib rapture theory:" See: http://www.poweredbychrist.com
/Pretrib_Rapture_Dishonesty...
"5. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. .....7. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith." II Timothy 3: 5, 7-8."
The II Timothy 3 church resists the truth.
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."
The false prophets and their followers bring in damnable heresies, or false doctrines, and speak evil of the way of truth.
Talk Jesus is a dispensationalist forum, similar to the Rapture Ready forum on the Internet. On March 20, 2009 a guy posted on Talk Jesus an exposure of the practices of Rapture Ready, called "Beware of Rapture Ready Forum." He said that Rapture Ready banned people because they disagreed with the dispensationalist positions of its moderators. Now, Talk Jesus is also threatening to censor, censoring, and banning members for making statements which disagree with the dispensationalist positions of the moderators. About a month ago they banned a guy who tended to agree with my posts.
If Talk Jesus were to openly state in its rules which anyone can find and read who is interested in joining the forum that Talk Jesus does not allow criticism of dispensationmalism and does not allow mention of certain individuals, that would discourage many from joining. On the other hand, if Talk Jesus does not do that, then censoring posts critical of dispensationalism is dishonest.- and not a good idea for growing membership.
Talk Jesus said:
"Your message (Isaiah 3: 1-12, II Peter 2: 6 and Jude 1: 7 Applied To the USA - July of 2015) contains inappropriate content:"
tulsa 2011
"I have seen dispensationalists pull verses 1 and 2 out of Romans 11:1-5 and claim these verses prove that Old Covenant Israel was not done away with. But Romans 11: 1-5 should be read as one text on the remnant of Old Covenant Israel brought into whatever you want to call it, the Israel of God, Israel born again in Christ, or the Body of Christ. In verses 3-4 Paul gets into the remnant of Old Covenant Israel in citing I Kings 19:14-18, where Elijah said to God that he, Elijah, was the only faithful one left, but God told him that he had seven thousand who had not bowed their knees to Baal. This seven thousand was the remnant then. Then in verse 5 Paul states that at that time there was a remnant according to the election of grace. This is the remnant of Old Covenant Israel in which God began his plan of redemption again. But this was not just a restoration of the Old Covenant as happened when Zerubbabel, Nehemiah and Ezra led a remnant back to Jerusalem from the captivity in Babylon to rebuild the wall and the temple and restore Old Covenant Israel. The remnant Paul refers to in Romans 11: 5 was the remnant which were the beginnings of a spiritual transformation of Israel. Hosea 2: 23 predicts the Gentiles would be brought into Israel and Haggai 2: 9 says "The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former....." Where is this in dispensationalism?
http://www.talkjesus.com/
"Talk Jesus a friendly worldwide community
You have been banned for the following reason: Rules violations"
The topic of my thread on Talk Jesus was the application of Isaiah 3: 1-12, II Peter 2: 6 and Jude 1: 7 to the USA in 2015. Then, a few people on the site began arguing against that application, mainly from Isaiah 3: 1-12, that the people oppress one another, that the children, or child-like, behave proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honorable. II Peter 2: 6 is about the judgment on Sodom and Gomorrah and Jude 1: 7 is on judgment for homosexuality.
The comments shifted the topic away from judgment for homosexuaity to metaphoric Babylon as a symbol for apostasy in both covenants (Jeremiah 50 and 51 and Revelation 17 and 18) and to the predilection for literalist interpretations.
Someone on that dispensationalist forum asked me to explain my position on Romans 11: 1-5 because I had said this on the thread about Isaiah 3: 1-12, II Peter 2: 6 and Jude 1: 7, that "Dispensationalism cannot accept this set of scriptures: Romans, 9: 6, Romans 11: 1-5, Romans 11: 17-20, I Corinthians 10: 18, Ephesians 2: 11-19, John 10: 16, Romans 12: 4-5, Ephesians 4: 4 and Galatians 3: 3, 16, 26-29. The agreement among these texts contradicts the foundations of dispensationalism, that God now has two peoples, Old Covenant Israel and the Capital C Church, that the multitude of Old Covenant Israel are still the chosen people by virtue of their bloodline, and that a consistent literal method of interpretation must be used."
My reply is quoted above, which the administration of Talk Jesus seemed to use as their reason for banning me.
The point in commenting on Talk Jesus and its banning me for critical statements on dispensationmalism is that this cult-like behavior supports what Fearless Dave MacPhearson said about dispensationalists, that "When I began my research in 1970 into the exact beginnings of the pretribulation rapture belief still held by many evangelicals, I assumed that the rapture debate involved only "godly scholars with honest differences." The paper you are now reading reveals why I gave up that assumption many years ago. With this introduction-of-sorts in mind, let's take a long look at the pervasive dishonesty throughout the history of the 179-year-old pretrib rapture theory:" See: http://www.poweredbychrist.com
/Pretrib_Rapture_Dishonesty...
"5. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. .....7. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith." II Timothy 3: 5, 7-8."
The II Timothy 3 church resists the truth.
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."
The false prophets and their followers bring in damnable heresies, or false doctrines, and speak evil of the way of truth.
northwye- Posts : 25
Join date : 2011-06-09
Re: Banned From Talk Jesus For Posting "Inappropriate Content"
by northwye Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:49 pm
".....although the fruits of the Spirit are “righteousness, and peace, and joy” (Romans 14:17), the fruits of the Cult That Kidnapped Christianity are Disinformation, Subterfuge, and Political Coercion. " James Lloyd July 17, 2015
Dispensationalism is the cult that kidnapped Christianity. See The Kingdom of the Cults,1965, by Walter Martin. Martin tells you how to identify a cult, though he does not discuss dispensationalism as a cult in his book. Cults try harder to control their members than do churches which have not been taken over by dispensationalism. Dispensationalist leaders - preachers or the administration of Christian forums - do not usually try to control the personal lives of their members. But dispensationalist cult leaders may demand submission to their doctrines and tolerate no dissent.
See: http://www.letusreason.org/culteac.htm........"The methods of control which are used; usually FEAR of displeasing God, the leader, or both. Fear of rejection, punishment, losing ones salvation, missing the rapture, going to hell. Guilt, Fear, intimidation are Weapons used to maintain their loyalty and devotion to the group."
"Intimidation and accusation are the most often used. For example, any questioning of authority is treated as rebellion, and not trusting."................."An "US AGAINST THEM" ATTITUDE AND PHILOSOPHY: Anyone who challenges the cult's doctrine is automatically branded as an enemy which is usually anyone who disagrees."........."The unspoken rule may come across like this: Do not disagree with the church authorities -- especially the pastor or your spirituality and loyalty will be questioned."
More from http://www.letusreason.org/culteac.htm.............."LEADERS HAVE A PRIDEFUL UNTEACHABLE SPIRIT: The attitude that "no one can Judge me or tell me what to do" is fostered by pride the leader is in deception and promotes deception to the followers. The leader becomes untouchable by anyone."
northwye- Posts : 25
Join date : 2011-06-09
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