Can someone support Israel and still be a Christian?

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Can someone support Israel and still be a Christian?

Post by Hammer on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:30 pm

Notice: these are my views, and not those of this forum.

In my estimation, Zionist Evangelicals believe even the most blatant pro-Israel lies and they hate any truth that is counter to their blind love of Israel. I've been accused of "hating God's people" merely for quoting Bible verses.

In short, Zionists love lies and hate the truth. I can't reconcile that with being a Christian.

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Post by Strangelove on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:35 pm

Hammer wrote:Notice: these are my views, and not those of this forum.

I'd say those are pretty much the views of the forum Hammer.

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Post by Strangelove on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:39 pm

Hammer wrote:they hate any truth that is counter to their blind love of Israel. I've been accused of "hating God's people" merely for quoting Bible verses.

In short, Zionists love lies and hate the truth. I can't reconcile that with being a Christian.

Those who hate the truth call the truth hate.

Let the persecution and accusations you receive from those people reassure you that you are on the right path Brother.

Jesus quoted the bible to the pharisees. They didn't like it much neither.

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Post by Strangelove on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:49 pm



Joh 3:19-21 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. (20) For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. (21) But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

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Re: Can someone support Israel and still be a Christian?

Post by Strangelove on Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:45 pm

If I may turn this thread on it's head for a second....

One can only be a Christian with the support of the Israel of God.

The firstborn of God [Israel], The Lord Jesus Christ.

Jesus is Israel. The seed promised.

We are counted with the seed. And are seen by God, as His Israel. and only justified with the Lord by faith in Him.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

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Post by PneumaPsucheSoma on Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:31 pm

Strangelove wrote:If I may turn this thread on it's head for a second....

One can only be a Christian with the support of the Israel of God.

The firstborn of God [Israel], The Lord Jesus Christ.

Jesus is Israel. The seed promised.

We are counted with the seed. And are seen by God, as His Israel. and only justified with the Lord by faith in Him.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

The only "replacement" theology is (pseudo-) Jews over Jesus.

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Re: Can someone support Israel and still be a Christian?

Post by zone on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:01 pm

Hammer wrote:Notice: these are my views, and not those of this forum.

In my estimation, Zionist Evangelicals believe even the most blatant pro-Israel lies and they hate any truth that is counter to their blind love of Israel. I've been accused of "hating God's people" merely for quoting Bible verses.

In short, Zionists love lies and hate the truth. I can't reconcile that with being a Christian.

Ditto Hammer.
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Post by zone on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:03 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:

The only "replacement" theology is (pseudo-) Jews over Jesus.

Ain't it the truth?
The Makow piece illustrated the global psy-op so well.
And Doc's note to self on the 6 mil thread is interesting too.

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Re: Can someone support Israel and still be a Christian?

Post by PneumaPsucheSoma on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:36 pm

zone wrote:

Ain't it the truth?
The Makow piece illustrated the global psy-op so well.
And Doc's note to self on the 6 mil thread is interesting too.

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I know it's spiritual, but how are we immune to the psy-ops and mind control and all the rest? How are we able to resist all the chemical and environment air-borne, food-borne physiological/psychology hoo-doo, IYHO?

We've all had the same subliminal and developmental manipulation. Beyond trite generalizations, how is there such a chasm and the vast majority of the apostate church are deceived?

I guess it's as simple as loving the truth, but there doesn't seem to be much of that.

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Re: Can someone support Israel and still be a Christian?

Post by Strangelove on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:45 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:....how are we immune to the psy-ops and mind control...

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

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Post by PneumaPsucheSoma on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:29 pm

Strangelove wrote:

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Agreed. It defies all human pragmatism and categorization.

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