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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:35 am

zone wrote:Doc is all this from Hoffman?

No I'm gathering quotes from a few different sources.

A big one is here:

The Hidden Power - Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr

It's Christian identity though Suspect so I have to verify the quotes in other sources.

It's an interesting book though from a guy who seems very genuine.

He also has a piece on the Noahide Laws:

The Noahide Laws - A Real and Pressing Danger!

This is his homepage:

The Watchman's Corner - Col. Jack Mohr (Author - Evangelist - Lecturer)

Remember though this guy is Christian identity....the white Christian nations are true Israel and all that jazz. cyclops Why does it have to be racial?

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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:16 am

Remember though this guy is Christian identity....the white Christian nations are true Israel and all that jazz. cyclops Why does it have to be racial?

(Mark 16:16) He that believeth and is baptized [and is from white anglo-saxon ancestry??] shall be saved


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Re: Talmudism

Post by unclefester on Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:19 am

Strangelove wrote:

(Mark 16:16) He that believeth and is baptized [and is from white anglo-saxon ancestry??] shall be saved


Exactly. I've come across a couple of proponents similarly minded. I suppose it wouldn't be realistic not to expect to see some take this position .... the reasoning being that it fits their criteria. This type of rhetoric is as far away from the truth as is my previous years of wandering in ignorance. It is this stuff that we must be aware and weary of as well in our quest for God's truth.
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Re: Talmudism

Post by unclefester on Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:51 am


Fester:
this is about APOSTATE BAD GUYS and they both jew and gentile, as we all know.
nothing has changed. its the same crew playing the same old games.

what's interesting now though is the number of gentiles claiming to be jews and vice versa.

the plot thickens.

none of us want this to be true...but, WE HAVE A GREAT GOD AND REDEEMER Who had laid down His Life and taken it up again to rescue us from the RIGHTEOUS ANGER to come.

we are looking for a new Home, we are just passing through.

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love zone.

Thanks Zone. I've visited this link a few times previous from one of your posts to our beloved "prophetess" Smile Got it bookmarked. I am perfectly content in God's truth and I am convinced that it is as is being discussed here. In this regard, I am not fearful. I would be less than honest though if I said that I wasn't amazed and taken back at just how deep this river of deceit we once thought we understood actually is. I have never had any question concerning your heart and your intentions.....nor of those things you spoke of.....not once. I am grateful for the things you bring to God's table Smile

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Re: Talmudism

Post by zone on Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:42 pm

Strangelove wrote:

(Mark 16:16) He that believeth and is baptized [and is from white anglo-saxon ancestry??] shall be saved


lol!
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Re: Talmudism

Post by zone on Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:48 pm

unclefester wrote:
Thanks Zone. I've visited this link a few times previous from one of your posts to our beloved "prophetess" Smile Got it bookmarked. I am perfectly content in God's truth and I am convinced that it is as is being discussed here. In this regard, I am not fearful. I would be less than honest though if I said that I wasn't amazed and taken back at just how deep this river of deceit we once thought we understood actually is. I have never had any question concerning your heart and your intentions.....nor of those things you spoke of.....not once. I am grateful for the things you bring to God's table Smile

~ snipped ~ hopefully you got it.

i just can't stand the pretenders: if you're a mystic, say so: don't pretend to be a simple christian plz.



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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:04 pm

I have never had any question concerning your heart and your intentions.....nor of those things you spoke of.....not once. I am grateful for the things you bring to God's table


I'd like to second that.

From the very first post I read I knew zone was the real deal.

Love you zonus. sunny

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Re: Talmudism

Post by zone on Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:21 pm

zone wrote:

if it weren't so dangerous and so insidious (and so despised by The Lord), and PUSHED as legit to young 'uns i wouldn't care.

i just can't stand the pretenders: if you're a mystic, say so: don't pretend to be a simple christian plz.



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Re: Talmudism

Post by zone on Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:23 pm

Strangelove wrote:

I'd like to second that.

From the very first post I read I knew zone was the real deal.

Love you zonus. sunny



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Re: Talmudism

Post by zone on Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:29 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Remember though this guy is Christian identity....the white Christian nations are true Israel and all that jazz. cyclops Why does it have to be racial?

ya....we have to use our discernment and like you said check the sources: the XtianIdentity movement is a Cointelpro Psyop that dragnets the ignorant (who have been taught to be racists - tho some always are and always will be - idiots)...it advances the entire agenda: can't have LAWS without "criminals", right?

Hal Turner the big KKK guy totally CIA: they're fighting to keep him out of jail right now.
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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Thu May 05, 2011 8:14 pm

"The Mishnah certainly is the first document of rabbinic Judaism. Formally, it stands at the center of the system, since the principal subsequent rabbinic documents, the Talmuds, lay themselves out as if they were exegeses of Mishnah. .."

- Jacob Neusner, Rabbinic Judaism

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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Fri May 06, 2011 7:34 am

"The true future salvation from Gog and Magog will only come about through the merit of Talmud study, for Talmud study leads to saintliness and purity ... while Bible study does not even produce righteousness ... Even a little Talmud study creates more fear of Heaven than much Bible study .. .I swear by my life, they (Bible scholars) do not even know how to put tefillin on correctly .. ."

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Re: Talmudism

Post by ada on Fri May 06, 2011 9:55 am


Yea and the kabbalistic zohar which is in authority above the talmud even obligates ritual murder.
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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Fri May 06, 2011 10:01 am

ada wrote:
Yea and the kabbalistic zohar which is in authority above the talmud even obligates ritual murder.

I'd love to see the documentation for that one.

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Re: Talmudism

Post by ada on Fri May 06, 2011 10:06 am


You can easily investigate by yourself.
http://www2.kabbalah.com/k/index.php/p=zohar/zohar&vol=17&sec=611
There are more..
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Re: Talmudism

Post by ada on Fri May 06, 2011 10:10 am


This old book is from 1909:
http://www.archive.org/details/jewhumansacrific00stra

Choose read online and search for sohar.
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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Fri May 06, 2011 10:22 am

Lets see the actual text from sources ada.

I'm collecting the actual quotes here...dont just make allegations without backing them up.

This is stuff to be used on other forums so it needs to be rock solid and verified.

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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Fri May 06, 2011 8:07 pm

"The Mishnah is a document of imagination and fantasy . .. "

- From the introduction to The Mishnah: A New Translation (New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 1988)

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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Fri May 06, 2011 8:27 pm

"On the surface, Scripture plays little role in the Mishnaic system. The Mishnah rarely cites a verse of Scripture, refers to Scripture as an entity, links its own ideas to those of Scripture, or lays claim to originate in what Scripture has said, even by indirect or remote allusion to a Scriptural verse of teaching ... Formally, redactionally, and linguistically the Mishnah stands in splendid isolation from Scripture...."

- Rabbi Jacob Neusner (The Mishnah: A New Translation)

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Re: Talmudism

Post by ada on Sat May 07, 2011 9:01 am


"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jew), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God. "

Bammidber Raba, c 21 & Jalkut 772)
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Re: Talmudism

Post by ada on Sat May 07, 2011 9:21 am

Murdering Christians is the same as killing a wild animal.
SANHEDRIN 78B and 79A.
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Re: Talmudism

Post by Strangelove on Sat May 07, 2011 10:43 am

ada wrote:Murdering Christians is the same as killing a wild animal.
SANHEDRIN 78B and 79A.

Cant find anything even remotely like that in the soncino edition BT.

http://halakhah.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_78.html

Please source talmud quotes before you post them. Thanks.

We need stuff that cannot be rebutted.

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HUMAN SACRIFICE A SEMITIC TRADITION

Post by ada on Sun May 08, 2011 6:33 am


HUMAN SACRIFICE A SEMITIC TRADITION.
IT is incontestable that the ancient "Semites" manifested a peculiar leaning towards the practice
of bloody sacrifices to their gods.
Typical is the Jewish story of Abraham offering to slay with a knife his first-born, Isaac, as an
offering to Yahweh who had commanded him so to do. More typical still is the Semitic idea that his
god would require such a murder to be done.
In Excavations at Gezer, R. A. S. Macalister tells us that the bodies of sacrificed young children
were found in all semitic strata; this work describes the remains of these victims of which pictures are
given.
Isaiah charges the Jews with "enflaming themselves with idols under every green tree, slaying
the children in the valleys under the clifts of the rocks" (lvii, 5). There are many other Old Testament
references to the practice of sacrificing children to Moloch.
Says the Rev. J. Kitto in the Cyclopædia of Biblical Literature, 1895, "their altars smoked with
human blood from the time of Abraham to the fall of the Kingdoms of Judah and Israel."
G. A. Dorsey writes in Civilization (Hamish Hamilton): "Historically their temple at Jerusalem,
like a Hindu or Aztec temple, was a shambles –– one sacrifice after another."
The Jewish Encyclopædia (1904, Vol. VIII, p. 653) says: "The fact, therefore, now generally
accepted by critical scholars, is that in the last days of the kingdom human sacrifices were offered to
Yhwh as King or Counsellor of the Nation and that the Prophets disapproved of it ...."
Jesus Himself speaking to the Pharisees (St. John, viii, 44) charges them with being hereditary
murderers, which term can have no other meaning than ritual murderers. "Ye are of your father the
devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do; he was a murderer from the beginning." This is in the
Book on which "witnesses" are sworn when they give evidence against "anti-semites" who expose the
murder of Christian children by Jews!
"Rabbinism was but an unfolding of Pharisaism, the full and swelling stream of corrupt
doctrines, views and practices, of which the rivulets run up to the days of Christ and stretch back to
those of Ezra until they are lost in the fountain-head, the Religious

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Re: Talmudism

Post by ada on Sun May 08, 2011 6:45 am

J e w i s h R i t u a l - M u r d e r
a H i s t o r i c a l I n v e s t i g a t i o n
by Hellmut Schramm, Ph.D.

a translation by R. Belser of
D e r j ü d i s c h e R i t u a l m o r d
E i n e h i s t o r i s c h e U n t e r s u c h u n g
von Hellmut Schramm, Ph. D.

The Jewish ritual-murder is as old as Jewry itself; to a further definition the objection could be
made, insofar as the Gentile view is concerned, of subjectivity, injustice, or even partisan malice.
For this reason we present for clarification of the concept a Jewish passage, still generally valid
today, from the Zohar, a "holy book" of Judaism, which is placed even before the Talmud by Jewish
Orthodoxy. While the Talmud says in one passage (Baba mezia 114b) -- to use this as an
introduction -- that only Jews are designated as human beings while the remaining peoples of the
world (thus, all non-Jews, not only the Christian peoples) are called cattle, the Cabbalistic Zohar
(Shining Light) contains an unmistakable directive for ritual-murder. This reads, verbatim according
to the authentic translation of Dr. Bischoff: "Further, there is a command of slaughtering, which
takes place in a ritually valid manner for strangers, who are not human beings but are like unto
cattle. For those who do not concern themselves with the Jewish religious law, must be made
offerings (!) of prayer, so that they are offered as sacrifice to the blessed God. And when they thus
are offered to Him, it is said of them: "for thy sake are we murdered the whole day, slaughtered,
like sheep at the slaughtering bench" (compare to this Psalm 44:23)!
The exact point in time when these ritual-murders are to be carried out according to opportunity, is
to be found in the Talmud passage Kethuboth 62a, where the slaughtering (schachat) of a boy on
Passover evening is discussed. Actually, during the course of our investigation we will be able to
determine that the individual acts of murder falling in the time of the Pessach are by no means of an
accidental nature, but on the contrary they were and are executed by plan in observation of Jewish
secret law.
The Passover (Pessach) celebration is held in the month of March or, respectively, April for eight
days' duration in remembrance of the removal of the "Children of Israel" (6) from Egypt. We can
visualize what is said about the mass-slaughter of the first-born Gentile children in Egypt in Exodus
12:30: "...and there went up a great wailing in Egypt, for there was no house in which there was not
one dead", so we can understand that the institution of the Passover according to the instruction of
the Jewish blood-god Yahweh: ". . .you shall have this day for remembrance and shall keep it as a
feast to the Lord (Yahweh)" (Exodus 12:14), can receive its consecration in the Jewish sense only
through acts of murder of non-Jews. A similar feast of murder are "the days of Purim", named after
the Pur, or the lot, which was cast, "to terrify and to kill," a lot which delivered up to the Jewish
slaughterers over 75,000 of the best men in the ancient Persian kingdom of King Xerxes, who had
surrendered himself to alcohol through the machinations of Mordechai, a Jewish beggar who had
ascended to the position of Court Jew, and his niece and royal concubine Esther; among the
slaughtered was Haman and his ten sons; Haman was aware of the enemy and had clearly
recognized the looming Jewish danger: ". . .there is a people, scattered and dispersed among all the
peoples in all lands of your kingdom, and their law is different from that of other peoples, and they
act not according to the laws of the king" (Esther 3:8).
The Purim feast "they hold for two days each year, as they were ordained and appointed" (Esther
9:27); this "feast," according to its entire historical or perhaps only legendary core, is likewise an
explicit feast of revenge "at which Jewry strikes dead its enemies, at least in thought" (according to
the assessment of the Jewish "Professor" Gunkel), just as the Book of Esther is a document of the
first water of the most unrestrained and limitless Jewish revenge against all non-Jews, about which
Luther (Table-Talk 2996, Erlanger Edition Volume 62, page 181) made the judgment: "Oh how
they love the Book of Esther, which is in such fine tune with their blood-thirsty, eager-for-revenge
murderous desires and hopes! The sun has never shone upon a more blood-thirsty and revengehungry
people, than these who think of themselves as God's People, that they should murder and
throttle the heathens."
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Re: Talmudism

Post by ada on Sun May 08, 2011 6:50 am

ONLINE:THE TALMUD UNMASKED THE SECRET RABBINICAL TEACHINGS CONCERNING CHRISTIANS

Excerpts:


CHRISTIANS TO BE HARMED DIRECTLY

Lastly, the Talmud commands that Christians are to be killed without mercy. In the Abhodah Zarah (26b) it says:

"Heretics, traitors and apostates are to be thrown into a well and not rescued."

And in Choschen Hammischpat (388,10) it says:

"A spy is to be killed, even in our days, wherever he is found. He may be killed even before he confesses. And even if he admits that he only intended to do harm to somebody, and if the harm which he intended is not very great, it is sufficient to have him condemned to death. He must be warned, however, not to confess to this. But if he impudently says 'No, I will confess it!' then he must be killed, and the sooner the better. If there is no time to warn him, it is not necessary to do so. There are some who say that a traitor is to be put to death only when it is impossible to get rid of him by mutilating him, that is, by cutting out his tongue or his eyes, but if this can be done he must not be killed, since he is not any worse than others who persecute us."

And in Choschen Hamm. again (388,15) it says:

"If it can be proved that someone has betrayed Israel three times, or has given the money of Israelites to the Akum, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

* * * * *

I. RENEGADES TO BE KILLED

Even a Christian who is found studying the Law of Israel merits death. In Sanhedrin (59a) it says:

"Rabbi Jochanan says: A Goi who pries into the Law is guilty to death."

II. BAPTIZED JEWS ARE TO BE PUT TO DEATH

In Hilkhoth Akum (X, 2) it says:

"These things [supra] are intended for idolaters. But Israelites also, who lapse from their religion and become epicureans, are to be killed, and we must persecute them to the end. For they afflict Israel and turn the people from God."

* * *

And in Iore Dea (158,2 Hagah) it says:

"Renegades who turn to the pleasures of the Akum, and who become contaminated with them by worshipping stars and planets as they do, are to be killed."

Likewise in Choschen Hamm. (425,5) it says:

"Jews who become epicureans, who take to the worship of stars and planets and sin maliciously; also those who eat the flesh of wounded animals, or who dress in vain clothes, deserve the name of epicureans; likewise those who deny the Torah and the Prophets of Israel—the law is that all those should be killed; and those who have the power of life and death should have them killed; and if this cannot be done, they should be led to their death by deceptive methods."

Rabbi Maimonides, in Hilkhoth Teschubhah (III,8) gives the list of those who are considered as denying the Law:

"There are three classes of people who deny the Law of the Torah: (1) Those who say that the Torah was not given by God, at least one verse or one word of it, and who say that it was all the work of Moses; (2) Those who reject the explanation of the Torah, namely, the Oral Law of the Mischnah, and do not recognize the authority of the Doctors of the Law, like the followers of Tsadok (Sadducees) and Baithos; (3) Those who say that God changed the Law for another New Law, and that the Torah no longer has any value, although they do not deny that it was given by God, as the Christians and the Turks believe. All of these deny the Law of the Torah."

III. CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE KILLED BECAUSE THEY ARE TYRANTS

In Zohar (I,25a) it says:

"The People of the Earth are idolaters, and it has been written about them: Let them be wiped off the face of the earth. Destroy the memory of the Amalekites. They are with us still in this Fourth Captivity, namely, the Princes [of Rome] . . . who are really Amalakites."

1. THESE PRINCES ARE TO BE KILLED FIRST

For if they are allowed to live, the hope of the liberation of the Jews is in vain, and their prayers for release from this Fourth Captivity are of no avail. In Zohar (I,219B) it says:

"It is certain that our captivity will last until the princes of the gentiles who worship idols are destroyed."

And again in Zohar (II,19a) it says:

"Rabbi Jehuda said: Come and see how it is; how the princes have assumed power over Israel and the Israelites make no outcry. But their rejoicing is heard when the prince falls. It is written that: the King of the Egyptians died and soon the children of Israel were released from captivity; they cried out and their voice ascended to God."

2. THE PRINCEDOM WHOSE CHIEF CITY IS ROME IS THE ONE TO BE HATED MOST OF ALL BY THE JEWS

They call it the Kingdom of Esau, and of the Edomites, the Kingdom of Pride, the Wicked Kingdom, Impious Rome. The Turkish Empire is called the Kingdom of the Ismaelites which they do not wish to destroy. The Kingdom of Rome, however, must be exterminated, because when corrupt Rome is destroyed, salvation and freedom will come to God's Chosen People.(5)

(5) cf. Synag. Jud. ch.X, p.212.

Rabbi David Kimchi writes as follows in Obadiam:

"What the Prophets foretold about the destruction of Edom in the last days was intended for Rome, as Isaiah explains (ch. 34,1): Come near, ye nations, to hear . . . For when Rome is destroyed, Israel shall be redeemed."

Rabbi Abraham also, in his book Tseror Hammor, section Schoftim, says the same:

"Immediately after Rome is destroyed we shall be redeemed."

IV. LASTLY, ALL CHRISTIANS, INCLUDING THE BEST OF THEM, ARE TO BE KILLED

In Abhodah Zarah (26b, Tosephoth) it says:

"Even the best of the Goim should be killed"

The Schulchan Arukh, after the words of Iore Dea (158, 1) that those of the Akum who do no harm to Jews are not to be killed, namely those who do not wage war against Israel, thus explains the word Milchamah—war:

"But in time of war the Akum are to be killed, for it is written: 'The good among the Akum deserve to be killed, etc.' "

V. A JEW WHO KILLS A CHRISTIAN COMMITS NO SIN, BUT OFFERS AN ACCEPTABLE SACRIFICE TO GOD

In Sepher Or Israel (177b) it says:

"Take the life of the Kliphoth and kill them, and you will please God the same as one who offers incense to Him."

And in Ialkut Simoni (245c. n. 772) it says:

"Everyone who sheds the blood of the impious is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God."

VI. AFTER THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE AT JERUSALEM, THE ONLY SACRIFICE NECESSARY IS THE EXTERMINATION OF CHRISTIANS

In Zohar (III,227b) the Good Pastor says:

"The only sacrifice required is that we remove the unclean from amongst us."

Zohar (II, 43a), explaining the precept of Moses about the redemption of the first born of an ass by offering a lamb, says:

"The ass means the non-Jew, who is to be redeemed by the offering of a lamb, which is the dispersed sheep of Israel. But if he refuses to be redeemed, then break his skull....They should be taken out of the book of the living, for it is said about them: He who sins against me, I shall take out of the book of life."

VII. THOSE WHO KILL CHRISTIANS SHALL HAVE A HIGH PLACE IN HEAVEN

In Zohar (I,38b, and 39a) it says:

"In the palaces of the fourth heaven are those who lamented over Sion and Jerusalem, and all those who destroyed idolatrous nations ... and those who killed off people who worship idols are clothed in purple garments so that they may be recognized and honored."

VIII. JEWS MUST NEVER CEASE TO EXTERMINATE THE GOIM; THEY MUST NEVER LEAVE THEM IN PEACE AND NEVER SUBMIT TO THEM

In Hilkhoth Akum (X, 1) it says:

"Do not eat with idolaters, nor permit them to worship their idols; for it is written: Make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them (Deuter. ch. 7, 2). Either turn away from their idols or kill them."

Ibidem (X,7):


"In places where Jews are strong, no idolater must be allowed to remain..."

IX. ALL JEWS ARE OBLIGED TO UNITE TOGETHER TO DESTROY TRAITORS AMONG THEM

In Choschen Hamm. (338,16) it says:

"All the inhabitants of a city are obliged to contribute to the expense of killing a traitor, even those who have to pay other taxes."

X. NO FESTIVAL, NO MATTER HOW SOLEMN, MUST PREVENT THE BEHEADING OF A CHRISTIAN

In Pesachim (49b) it says:

"Rabbi Eliezer said: It is permitted to cut off the head of an 'idiot' [one of the People of the Earth] on the feast of the Atonement when it falls on the Sabbath.(6) His disciples said to him: Rabbi, you should rather say to sacrifice. But he replied: By no means, for it is necessary to pray while sacrificing, and there is no need of prayers when you behead someone."

(6) No day more holy than this could be imagined.

XI. THE ONE OBJECT OF ALL THE ACTIONS AND PRAYERS OF THE JEWS SHOULD BE TO DESTROY THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION

Thus the Jews picture their Messiah and Liberator whom they expect, as a persecutor who will inflict great calamities upon non-Jews. The Talmud lists three great evils which will come upon the world when the Messiah comes. In Schabbath (118a) it says:

"Whoever eats three meals on the Sabbath shall be saved from the three evils: from the punishments of the Messiah, from the pain of hell and from the war of Magog; for it is written: Behold, I shall send you Elias the Prophet before the coming of the 'Day' of the Lord, etc."

XII. IN THEIR PRAYERS THE JEWS SIGH FOR THE COMING OF THE REVENGEFUL MESSIAH, ESPECIALLY ON THE EVE OF THE PASSOVER:

"Pour out thy anger upon the nations that know thee not, and upon the kingdoms which do not invoke thy name; Pour out thy indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them; Persecute and destroy them in anger from under the heavens of the Lord."(7)

(7) cf. Sanhedrin, chap. VII near the end, and Iebhammoth, the last chap.

They also pray as follows:

"How long will thy strength remain captive and thy beauty lie under the hand of the oppressor? O God! Show forth thy strength and thy zeal against our enemies; break their strength and let them be confounded..."

And again:

"Cut off the hope of the unjust; let all heretics perish at once; root out, break up and destroy the Proud Kingdom; hasten to make all peoples subject in our days."


* * *

At that very same time, on Good Friday, that "Prince of the Proud Empire" of Rome, the Pope, prays, and orders everyone in the world to pray for all "heretics" and those who are "lost", as follows:

"Let us pray for the perfidious Jews: that the Lord our God may take away the veil from their hearts, that they may acknowledge Jesus Christ our Lord.

"Omnipotent and Eternal God, who does not even exclude Jewish perfidy from thy mercy: hear our prayers which we offer for the blindness of that people, that, having recognized the light of thy truth, which is Christ, they may come out of their darkness, Through Jesus Christ our Lord . . ."


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Post by Strangelove on Sun May 08, 2011 7:17 am

So your not gonna source any of your talmud quotes then?

Show me in the Babylonian Talmud in Abodah Zarah where is says:

"Even the best of the Goim should be killed"

http://halakhah.com/zarah/zarah_26.html

Show me in that copy or use a different source of the talmud.

Stop pulling random quotes off websites ada.

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Post by ada on Sun May 08, 2011 8:30 am

What's your problem doc?
The above books are a study ground base.
If you don't like the above 3 books this is not my problem.
As for the cite i posted :

Murdering Christians is the same as killing a wild animal.
SANHEDRIN 78B and 79A.

i was mislead.
But this does not mean that it nullifies anything about this cruel
topic and the history of ritual murder and blood lust of ancient practice and nowadays celebrating of the death and genocide on gentiles and Christians.

And other book you can easily examine and found on the web is from jewish professor Ariel Toaff titled "Blood Passover".

Another is German where i cannot find an english translation yet titled "Ritualmord Judentum und Freimaurerei" and there are more books investigating this topic.Last but least the writings of Dr. Martin Luther.
You asked for more reliable and documented stuff you got it.

Todays actions on this topics are far more difficile and hidden but not less effective on the contrary.

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Post by Strangelove on Sun May 08, 2011 9:00 am

ada wrote:What's your problem doc?
The above books are a study ground base.
If you don't like the above 3 books this is not my problem.

My problem is I want to use these quotes AGAINST TALMUDISTS.

And they are NO GOOD if they can just say..."well....heres the tractate you got your quote from and ITS NOT IN THERE..hardy har har...look at this LIAR spreading ANTISEMITIC propoganda"

Do you get it? It does more harm than good posting quotes that are not in the talmud.

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Post by ada on Sun May 08, 2011 12:37 pm

No i don't get you.Facts are Facts.

Would you say that when you cite rabbis without any source
that it is more valid proof than books from scholars even jewish
professors?
Your whole site is antisemitic in their eyes they would call you a
self hating jew for it and a goyem cause you are a Christian.

Here is another book from 1883

Die Polemik und das Menschenopfer des Rabbinismus : eine wissenschaftliche Antwort ohne Polemik für
die Rabbiner und ihre Genossen (1883)

If you like it i make another topic called Jewish Ritual Murder and move the stuff out of here.

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Post by Strangelove on Sun May 08, 2011 2:34 pm

ada wrote:No i don't get you.Facts are Facts.

A talmudic quote is not a fact unless you can find it in one of the translations of the talmud. If you can cite Jewish sources that quote the passage in question then thats acceptable if not perfect.

Simplez.

If you cant find it in the talmud or in a reputable Jewish source then its just someones opinion...and therefore useless as documentation.

I dunno why you find this so hard to understand. I'm trying to collect here SOLID documentation that can be used on other forums. Not flimsy Christian biased takes on talmud tractates that can be easily refuted.

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