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The New Perspective on Paul
by zone Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:01 pm
this stupid thing is popping back up at a forum i'm on.
here's a complete armory to defend the OLD Perspective on Paul:
http://www.thepaulpage.com/new-perspective/around-the-web/articles-challenging-the-new-perspective/
hehehehe...the good old days, eh Doc?
here's a complete armory to defend the OLD Perspective on Paul:
http://www.thepaulpage.com/new-perspective/around-the-web/articles-challenging-the-new-perspective/
hehehehe...the good old days, eh Doc?
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Re: The New Perspective on Paul
by strangelove Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:11 pm
The Apostle Paul is a huge annoyance to the Judaizers.
Thank God for choosing an ADL-proof ex-pharisee to spread the Good News to the Gentiles.
Cheers for the resource Zone. Found another good site here:
Messianic Good News
(Amillenial too...bonus!)
Ok.....I'm really goin' to bed now. Night night.
Thank God for choosing an ADL-proof ex-pharisee to spread the Good News to the Gentiles.
Cheers for the resource Zone. Found another good site here:
Messianic Good News
(Amillenial too...bonus!)
Ok.....I'm really goin' to bed now. Night night.
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Re: The New Perspective on Paul
by zone Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:29 pm
DOC YOU ARE MY HERO........Strangelove wrote:The Apostle Paul is a huge annoyance to the Judaizers.
Thank God for choosing an ADL-proof ex-pharisee to spread the Good News to the Gentiles.
Cheers for the resource Zone. Found another good site here:
Messianic Good News
(Amillenial too...bonus!)
Ok.....I'm really goin' to bed now. Night night.
this is EXACTLY what i needed: i'm in an EPIC battle at another forum on dispensationalism, and i'll tell you they are trashing me and rejecting every proof brought forward. i wonder if the strong delusion has already been sent?
perf doc.
thx
"ADL-proof ex-pharisee" ehehehe
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Re: The New Perspective on Paul
by strangelove Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:26 am
FROM - Sacred Sandwich
If Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians was Published in Christianity Today:
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
Dear Christianity Today:
In response to Paul D. Apostle’s article about the Galatian church in your January issue, I have to say how appalled I am by the unchristian tone of this hit piece. Why the negativity? Has he been to the Galatian church recently? I happen to know some of the people at that church, and they are the most loving, caring people I’ve ever met.
Phyllis Snodgrass; Ann Arbor, MI
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Dear Editor:
How arrogant of Mr. Apostle to think he has the right to judge these people and label them accursed. Isn’t that God’s job? Regardless of this circumcision issue, these Galatians believe in Jesus just as much as he does, and it is very Pharisaical to condemn them just because they differ on such a secondary issue. Personally, I don’t want a sharp instrument anywhere near my zipper, but that doesn’t give me the right to judge how someone else follows Christ. Can’t we just focus on our common commitment to Christ and furthering His kingdom, instead of tearing down fellow believers over petty doctrinal matters?
Ed Bilgeway; Tonganoxie, KS
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Dear CT:
I’ve seen other dubious articles by Paul Apostle in the past, and frankly I’m surprised you felt that his recurrent criticisms of the Church deserved to be printed in your magazine. Mr. Apostle for many years now has had a penchant for thinking he has a right to “mark” certain Christian teachers who don’t agree with his biblical position. Certainly I commend him for desiring to stay faithful to God’s word, but I think he errs in being so dogmatic about his views to the point where he feels free to openly attack his brethren. His attitude makes it difficult to fully unify the Church, and gives credence to the opposition’s view that Christians are judgmental, arrogant people who never show God’s love.
Ken Groener; San Diego, CA
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To the Editors:
Paul Apostle says that he hopes the Galatian teachers will cut off their own privates? What kind of Christian attitude is that? Shame on him!
Martha Bobbitt; Boulder, CO
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Dear Christianity Today:
The fact that Paul Apostle brags about his public run-in with Peter Cephas, a well-respected leader and brother in Christ, exposes Mr. Apostle for the divisive figure that he has become in the Church today. His diatribe against the Galatian church is just more of the same misguided focus on an antiquated reliance on doctrine instead of love and tolerance. Just look how his hypercritical attitude has cast aspersions on homosexual believers and women elders! The real problem within the Church today is not the lack of doctrinal devotion, as Apostle seems to believe, but in our inability to be transformed by our individual journeys in the Spirit. Evidently, Apostle has failed to detach himself from his legalistic background as a Pharisee, and is unable to let go and experience the genuine love for Christ that is coming from the Galatians who strive to worship God in their own special way.
William Zenby; Richmond, VA
Loads more at the link. Hilarious.
If Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians was Published in Christianity Today:
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
Dear Christianity Today:
In response to Paul D. Apostle’s article about the Galatian church in your January issue, I have to say how appalled I am by the unchristian tone of this hit piece. Why the negativity? Has he been to the Galatian church recently? I happen to know some of the people at that church, and they are the most loving, caring people I’ve ever met.
Phyllis Snodgrass; Ann Arbor, MI
————————————————————————
Dear Editor:
How arrogant of Mr. Apostle to think he has the right to judge these people and label them accursed. Isn’t that God’s job? Regardless of this circumcision issue, these Galatians believe in Jesus just as much as he does, and it is very Pharisaical to condemn them just because they differ on such a secondary issue. Personally, I don’t want a sharp instrument anywhere near my zipper, but that doesn’t give me the right to judge how someone else follows Christ. Can’t we just focus on our common commitment to Christ and furthering His kingdom, instead of tearing down fellow believers over petty doctrinal matters?
Ed Bilgeway; Tonganoxie, KS
————————————————————————–
Dear CT:
I’ve seen other dubious articles by Paul Apostle in the past, and frankly I’m surprised you felt that his recurrent criticisms of the Church deserved to be printed in your magazine. Mr. Apostle for many years now has had a penchant for thinking he has a right to “mark” certain Christian teachers who don’t agree with his biblical position. Certainly I commend him for desiring to stay faithful to God’s word, but I think he errs in being so dogmatic about his views to the point where he feels free to openly attack his brethren. His attitude makes it difficult to fully unify the Church, and gives credence to the opposition’s view that Christians are judgmental, arrogant people who never show God’s love.
Ken Groener; San Diego, CA
—————————————————————————-
To the Editors:
Paul Apostle says that he hopes the Galatian teachers will cut off their own privates? What kind of Christian attitude is that? Shame on him!
Martha Bobbitt; Boulder, CO
—————————————————————————-
Dear Christianity Today:
The fact that Paul Apostle brags about his public run-in with Peter Cephas, a well-respected leader and brother in Christ, exposes Mr. Apostle for the divisive figure that he has become in the Church today. His diatribe against the Galatian church is just more of the same misguided focus on an antiquated reliance on doctrine instead of love and tolerance. Just look how his hypercritical attitude has cast aspersions on homosexual believers and women elders! The real problem within the Church today is not the lack of doctrinal devotion, as Apostle seems to believe, but in our inability to be transformed by our individual journeys in the Spirit. Evidently, Apostle has failed to detach himself from his legalistic background as a Pharisee, and is unable to let go and experience the genuine love for Christ that is coming from the Galatians who strive to worship God in their own special way.
William Zenby; Richmond, VA
Loads more at the link. Hilarious.
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Re: The New Perspective on Paul
by strangelove Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:28 pm
Erm.....theres now a WIKI page...
New Perspective on Paul - WIKI
~SNIP~
"The "New Perspective on Paul" is a significant shift in the way many scholars, especially Protestant scholars, interpret the writings of the Apostle Paul. Since the Protestant Reformation (c. 1517), studies of Paul's writings have been heavily influenced by Lutheran and Reformed views (called the "old perspective") that are said to ascribe negative attributes associated with 16th century Roman Catholicism to 1st century Judaism. The "new perspective" is an attempt to lift Paul's letters out of this framework and interpret them based on what is said to be an understanding of 1st century Judaism, taken on its own terms."
~SNIP~
New Perspective on Paul - WIKI
~SNIP~
"The "New Perspective on Paul" is a significant shift in the way many scholars, especially Protestant scholars, interpret the writings of the Apostle Paul. Since the Protestant Reformation (c. 1517), studies of Paul's writings have been heavily influenced by Lutheran and Reformed views (called the "old perspective") that are said to ascribe negative attributes associated with 16th century Roman Catholicism to 1st century Judaism. The "new perspective" is an attempt to lift Paul's letters out of this framework and interpret them based on what is said to be an understanding of 1st century Judaism, taken on its own terms."
~SNIP~
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