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Post by zone Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:13 am

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Post by zone Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:59 am

What's a thousand years among friends?

This is part of the Westminster Conference Series. Dr. Kim Riddlebarger is author of many books including books on Amillennialism. We were honored to have Dr. Riddlebarger visit with us and lecture for a weekend long series on Reformed Ammillennialsim.

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=7120617344

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Post by endofallfears Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:10 pm

The view of Ammillennialsim was not held by the church following the writing of the New Testament for several hundred years.

Justin Martyr: "The man of apstasy [Antichrist]...shall venture to do unlawful deeds on the earth against us the Christian." (Trypho, cx)

The Pastor (Shepherd) of Hermas: "Happy ye who endure the great tribulation that is coming." (Pastor of Hermas, Vision Second)

"Those, therefore, who continue steadfast, and are put through the fire, will be purified by means of it...Wherefore cease not speaking these things into the ears of the saints. This then is the type of the great tribulation that is yet to come. (Pastor of Hermas, Vision Fourth)

Barnabas: "The final stumbling-block approaches, concerning which it is written, as Enoch says, 'For this end the Lord has cut short the times and the days, that His Beloved may hasten; and He will come to the inheritance.' And the prophet also speaks thus: "Ten kingdoms shall reign upon the earth, and a little king shall rise up after them, who shall subdue under one three of the kings. "...Take heed, lest resting at our ease, as those who are called [of God], we should fall asleep in our sins, and the wicked prince, acquiring power over us, should thrust us away from the kingdom of the Lord." (The Epistle of Barnabas, chapter iv)

Irenaeus: "And they [the ten kings]...shall give their kingdom to the beast, and put the Church to flight." (Against Heresies, V, 26,1)

"But [John] indicates the number of the name [antichrist, 666] now, that when this man comes we may avoid him, being aware who he is." (Against Heresies, V, 30, 4)

Hippolytus: "Now concernig the tribulation of the persecution which is to fall upon the Church from the adversary...That refers to the one thousand two hundred and threescore days [the half of the week] during which the tyrant s to reign and persecute the Church." (Treatise on Christ and Antichrist, pp. 60,61)

Tertullian: "That the beast Antichrist with his false prophet may wage war on the Church of God...Since, then, the Scriptures both indicatet the staes of the last times, and concentrate the harvest of the Christian hope in the very end of the world." (On The Resurrection of the Flesh, xxv; cf. Scoriace, xii)

Just to list a few of the early church fathers. Origen, and also Augustine, tended to allegorize scripture which seems to be the basis of Ammillennialsim. As a hermeneutic, it causes problems in that causes us to lose the historical importance of Scripture, and debate if any of the things we read in Scripture actually happened.
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Post by zone Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:20 am

hi endof.
thank you!

that all may be so....but i don't allegorgize the coming trib: i can see it taking shape.

if the 'reformers' choose to stick to their guns re: the son of perdition being papacy, or just "man", that's fine. i see things a little differently.

not totally familiar with all variations of amill out there, but i'm not accepting any preterist models; nor any all "yet furture" models.

what i'm determining by looking at Scripture is that the Second Advent brings JUST the Day of Judgment, and the New Heavens and New Earth - no GAPS.

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Post by zone Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:04 am

also: the Creeds all make it clear.

I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
and born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell.
On the third day He rose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
From thence He will come to judge the living and the dead.
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Post by Strangelove Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:59 am

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Post by Strangelove Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:57 pm

(John 12:31) Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

Support for the binding of Satan?

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Post by Strangelove Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:05 pm

And here:

(Matthew 12:28) But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
(Matthew 12:29) Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
(Matthew 12:30) He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

(Colossians 1:12) Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
(Colossians 1:13) Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


Some more evidence that Christ and the Gospel have bound Satan?

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Post by zone Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:17 pm

Judaism's view of Jesus
Jews have traditionally seen Jesus as one of a number of false messiahs who have appeared throughout history.[1] Jesus is viewed as having been the most influential, and consequently the most damaging, of all false messiahs.[2] However, since the general Jewish belief is that the Messiah has not yet come and that the Messianic Age is not yet present, the total rejection of Jesus as either messiah or deity in Judaism has never been a central issue for Judaism. At the heart of Judaism are the Torah, its commandments, the Tanakh, and ethical monotheism such as in the Shema — all of which predated Jesus.

Judaism has never accepted any of the claimed fulfillments of prophecy that Christianity attributes to Jesus. Judaism also forbids the worship of a person as a form of idolatry, since the central belief of Judaism is the absolute unity and singularity of God.[3][4]

Jewish eschatology holds that the coming of the Messiah will be associated with a specific series of events that have not yet occurred, including the return of Jews to their homeland and the rebuilding of The Temple, a Messianic Age of peace[5] and understanding during which "the knowledge of God" fills the earth,[6] and since Judaism holds that none of these events occurred during the lifetime of Jesus (nor have they occurred afterwards), he is not a candidate for messiah.

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Post by Strangelove Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:15 pm

Hi Chingy...

I noticed you are a pre-tribber...

Ever tried amillenialism out for a ride?

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Post by MUSKOKAMAN Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:15 am

Then what's messianic Judaism?

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Post by zone Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:30 pm

a cult for the most part.

judaism and christianity are not compatible. if peeps are talking about Torah (moses & prophets) and Jesus the King of the Jews, fine. but why?

its always been called christianity, and we are not going backwards.
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Post by Strangelove Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:58 pm

MUSKOKAMAN wrote:Then what's messianic Judaism?

Mainly law keeping professed Christians that have no answer to Galatians 4:21-31. Very Happy

Possibly crypto jews (judaizers) who join Christian forums to waste our time.

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Post by MUSKOKAMAN Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:58 pm

Galatians 4:21-30 is about verifying all Jews as well as Gentiles as descendants of Abraham yet at the same time giving creedence to the Jews as the chosen race as that is from whom earthly Jesus is descended from (Mary is also a direct descendant of David therefore of Abraham as well)

Does it not say that all peoples shall be blessed in Abraham?

Genesis 18:18
Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

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Post by Strangelove Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:37 am

MUSKOKAMAN wrote:Galatians 4:21-30 is about verifying all Jews as well as Gentiles as descendants of Abraham yet at the same time giving creedence to the Jews as the chosen race as that is from whom earthly Jesus is descended from (Mary is also a direct descendant of David therefore of Abraham as well)

Does it not say that all peoples shall be blessed in Abraham?

Genesis 18:18
Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

The passages seem to be mainly about 2 COVENANTS.

I dont really see where creedence to the jews comes into it?

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Post by zone Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:43 pm

Paul clearly states its an allegory about 2 COVENANTS.

anyone claiming to be a jew, claiming to be within the Sinai Covenant Paul made clear will be cast out. it couldn't be simpler.

what Judaism today is, is not even Moses.

be born again and press into the New Covenant, the church, the Israel of God or perish is what it says.

no provision made for anyone outside Jesus. at all.

and Paul wrote that 2000 years ago.
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Post by Strangelove Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:29 pm

But not only did Satan stupefy the senses of mankind, so that with their bodies they buried the
remembrance of the resurrection; but he also managed by various fictions so to corrupt this branch
of doctrine that it at length was lost. Not to mention that even in the days of Paul he began to assail
it (1 Cor. 15), shortly after the Chiliasts arose, who limited the reign of Christ to a thousand
years. This fiction is too puerile to need or to deserve refutation.
Nor do they receive any countenance
from the Apocalypse, from which it is known that they extracted a gloss for their error (Rev. 20:4),
since the thousand years there mentioned refer not to the eternal blessedness of the Church, but
only to the various troubles which await the Church militant in this world. The whole Scripture
proclaims that there will be no end either to the happiness of the elect, or the punishment of the
reprobate. Moreover, in regard to all things which lie beyond our sight, and far transcend the reach
of our intellect, belief must either be founded on the sure oracles of God, or altogether renounced.
Those who assign only a thousand years to the children of God to enjoy the inheritance of future
life, observe not how great an insult they offer to Christ and his kingdom. 509 If they are not to be
clothed with immortality, then Christ himself, into whose glory they shall be transformed, has not
been received into immortal glory; if their blessedness is to have an end, the kingdom of Christ,
on whose solid structure it rests, is temporary. In short, they are either most ignorant of all divine
things or they maliciously aim at subverting the whole grace of God and power of Christ, which cannot have their full effects unless sin is obliterated, death swallowed up, and eternal life fully
renewed. How stupid and frivolous their fear that too much severity will be ascribed to God, if the
reprobate are doomed to eternal punishment, even the blind may see. The Lord, forsooth, will be
unjust if he exclude from his kingdom those who, by their ingratitude shall have rendered themselves
unworthy of it. But their sins are temporary (see Bernard, Epist. 254). I admit it; but then the majesty
of God, and also the justice which they have violated by their sins, are eternal. Justly, therefore,
the memory of their iniquity does not perish. But in this way the punishment will exceed the measure
of the fault. It is intolerable blasphemy to hold the majesty of God in so little estimation, as not to
regard the contempt of it as of greater consequence than the destruction of a single soul. But let us
have done with these triflers, that we may not seem (contrary to what we first observed) to think
their dreams deserving of refutation.


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Post by Bro John Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:53 pm

The Present Day Kingdom of Heaven
Where we prove beyond any doubt that the kingdom was not offered, rejected, withdrawn and postponed, but rather declared, rejected, and commenced,  


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Part 1 of TBD
The King/Kingdom Personally Promised 


The Kingdom is personally promised to David in II Samuel 7:8-17 with my emphasis.      
8.  Now therefore so shalt thou [Nathan] say unto my servant David, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I took thee from the sheepcote, from following the sheep, to be ruler over my people, over Israel: 
9.  And I was with thee whithersoever thou wentest, and have cut off all thine enemies out of thy sight, and have made thee a great name, like unto the name of the great men that are in the earth. 
10. Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime, 
11. And as since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel, and have caused thee to rest from all thine enemies. Also the LORD telleth thee that he will make thee an house. 
12. And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. 
13. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. 
14. I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: 
15. But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee. 
16. And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever. 
17. According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did Nathan speak unto David.
Many point to Solomon as the grand fulfillment of this promise.  But that cannot possibly be the case as the house and kingdom are to be established forever.  Even David knew that only Christ could fill this bill. (See Acts 2:29-33) More important eschatologically speaking, David is yet asleep when this kingdom is set up and forever established by God. (See verse 12)  Let me repeat.  When Christ sets up His kingdom David is yet dead in body.  This is a serious blow to my Dispensationalist friends.  They must have David alive as a vice regent, counselor, or at least a worship leader when Jesus sets up His kingdom.  But scripture is clear.  He is dead.    


What does this mean?  Either OT saints will not participate in the 1000 year reign of Christ, (which they do in amillennial eschatology) or the Dispensationalist 4 - phase doctrine of the 1st resurrection of saints is woefully in error (which it must be)  Let what I said sink in.  There cannot be 4 distinct bodily resurrections separated by 3000 years (at this date) for Christ and the saints as Dispensationalists tell us. (Christ, Pre Trib Rapture Saints, Old Testament /Tribulation Saints, and Millennial Saints. There are 2 bodily resurrections and 2 bodily resurrections only; 1 for Christ and 1 for the saints.  From I Corinthians 15 we read this:


22.  For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 
23.  But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 
24.  Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,...


The scripture is clear; 1 resurrection for Christ and 1 for the saints AT HIS COMING, NOT COMING(S) and then…...the end when Christ hands over the kingdom to God.  But wait, say my Dispensationalist friends.  This scripture is obviously speaking of the 1000 year millennial reign of Christ.  Friend, how can that be?  When Christ comes then comes the end.  Nothing in between, no resurrections, no comings, no goings………nothing but the end. A question for you:  If this scripture refers to the millennium where did Christ come from in verse 23 just above if it is referring to the last of the Dispensationalist 4 phase 1st resurrection?  Wasn’t He supposed to be seated on His throne in Jerusalem?  Where was He?  Please provide book, chapter, and verse.


The 2 resurrection truth is fully corroborated by Jesus’ own words in John 5, and include all who ever died or will die whether they be #1 Jesus or #2 saint/sinner.       


28.  Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 
29.  And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


Please notice the singular word; hour, not hour(s).  All in the graves both saved and unsaved come forth in that 1 hour.  The saved are resurrected unto eternal life and the unsaved unto eternal damnation.  This can only happen at the 2nd coming.  Another question for you:  How were the High Priest, and the Sanhedrin to see Jesus leaving His position at the right hand of God and coming on the clouds of heaven if they were not to be resurrected until after a literal 1000 years were fulfilled with Jesus reigning from Jerusalem? (See Mark 14:62)  


Now, once this kingdom is established then the House of the Lord can be built.  (See verse 13)  This follows the model of God with Solomon. (See II Chronicles 1:1, 2:1, and 3:1) Jesus, the greater than Solomon said, I will build my church; not with dead stones hewn from a lifeless rock but with living stones baptized into His body which can no longer die.  (See Zechariah 6:12,13, I Corinthians 3:16,17, 6:19, Ephesians 2:20-22, Hebrews 3:6, and I Peter 2:4,5) Jesus’ house -- whose house are we began to be built on Pentecost after He was glorified--the proof of His having received the kingdom from His Father. (See John 7:39) Jesus was established forever.   
 
Look again at these scriptures describing believers in Christ as making up the Temple of God.  How do some say that the temple of God must be built again of stones and be reestablished in Jerusalem?  Does God move backward?  No, always forward.  Saved believers are the true temple.  Allow me to repeat.  Saved believers are now the true temple of God.  And yes, Jerusalem once was the city of the great king.  Jesus said so. (See Matthew 5:35) But Jesus has moved on to the New Jerusalem which is above, the heavenly.  Peter said so.  (See Hebrews 12:22,23)  And Paul said so.  Why, because Jerusalem was, is now, and will be at the end of time still in bondage with her children. The Jerusalem on earth answers not to Mt. Zion, but rather to Mt. Sinai (See Galatians 4:21-26) Mt. Zion has moved on up to the top of the mountains. (See Isaiah 2:1-3, and Micah 4:1-3) And that’s where we find the New Jerusalem in John’s Book of Revelation. (See Revelation 3:12, 21:2, 9,10) Remember: First we are given the natural and then the spiritual. (See I Corinthians 15:46) Please, do not look back.  
  
Lastly, do you not recall the Word of our Lord to the Samaritan Woman at the Well?  Jesus told her it was not on Jacob’s Mountain nor in the city of Jerusalem that men should worship God -- EVEN BACK THEN.  (See John 4:23,24) From that day forward it was not a where/when or place/time proposition (ie. all males presenting themselves in Jerusalem at the time of the 3 major feasts) but rather a state/how formula of right worship of the Father.  It has moved on from a natural space/time continuum and taken to its true spiritual fulfillment located at the highway intersection of Spirit and Truth high in the heavens.  I hope you will not accuse the apostles, Paul, Peter, and John, of not following your coveted literal - grammatical - historical hermeneutic when they all testified concerning Jerusalem below and the Jerusalem above.  Didn’t Jesus, Himself, tell the disciples that John the Baptist was Elijah who was to come? (See Mark 9:11-13)  And Did he not break your hallowed rule of a literal-grammatical-historical hermeneutic when He stated that John was Elijah?  My friends, the scribes and pharisees immediately began plotting the death of Jesus for breaking their hallowed rule concerning the Sabbath. (See Mark 3:1-6)  But Jesus is Lord of the sabbath just as He is Lord of His Word.  Beware, lest he become angry with you for a continual hardness of heart in failing to believe all what He, the Holy Ghost, and the Apostles wrote concerning the prophecies of the Old Testament.   

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TLDR. Summarize, please.

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CONSPICILLUM wrote:TLDR. Summarize, please.
forgive me, please.  i am old school.  what does that anagram mean?

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Post by Bro John Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:37 pm

Here is Part 2a of the series.  I am cutting the size down. 

The Present Day Kingdom of Heaven
Where we prove beyond any doubt that the kingdom was not offered, rejected, withdrawn and postponed, but rather declared, rejected, and commenced,  


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Part 2 of TBD
The King/Kingdom Prophesied


Having examined the personal promise given to David regarding the king/kingdom we will now turn our attention to supporting OT prophecies which corroborate the promise.  Before we do, however, allow us a short recap.   As we proved in Part 1, David knew that only Christ could fulfill the prophecy as to the identity of his seed who would sit on his throne. (See Acts 2:29-33).  We also proved from the scripture that David is yet dead in body and asleep at the time this kingdom is set up. (See II Samuel 7:12)  In fact the companion scriptural passage from I Chronicles, chapter 17 is more emphatic.  There it states with my emphasis:


11.  And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 
12.  He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever. 
13.  I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee: 
14.  But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore. 

Here, in this second scriptural witness, David is confirmed dead at the time of the kingdom just as he was in II Samuel 7:12.  (See verse 11) Moreover, please notice that we have moved on from David’s kingdom being established through Christ (See II Samuel 7:12,13,16) to the Seed of David [Christ] being settled forever in God’s house and kingdom. (See I Chronicles 17:14) No mention is made anywhere in this passage about David’s throne or kingdom.  No, say the Dispensationalists.  What about the scriptures clearly stating that David will be king over God’s people in the latter days? (See Hosea 3:4,5, Ezekiel 34:24, 37:22-25, and Jeremiah 30:8,9) Which latter days are you speaking of? David is dead when Christ is set up in His kingdom.  It cannot get any simpler than that.  So, it must be that the scripture speaking of David is in actuality speaking of the Son of David, Jesus the Christ.  Again we already have biblical precedent for dispensing with the wayward Dispensationalist  literal-grammatical-historical hermeneutic.  After all, our Lord said that John the Baptist was Elijah. (See Mark 9:11-13)    

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Post by Bro John Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:46 pm

Part 2b of the king/kingdom prophesied

We will now explore two prophecies of the king/kingdom relating to the promise of the king/kingdom.  The first is in Daniel, chapter 7 where we find the following with my emphasis:


13  I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Notice that The Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven not from but to the Ancient of Days.
This is an obvious reference to the Ascension of our Lord Who was received by a cloud out of the sight of the Apostles’ as they watched Him depart into heaven. (See Acts 1:9) Near upon the Son of man entering heaven He is given the everlasting kingdom by God.  This mirrors Jesus’ Words in the Parable of the 10 Pounds in Luke 19:11-27.  The parable begins with a nobleman [Jesus] ready to leave for a far country [heaven] in order to receive a kingdom, and to return. [to earth] (verse 12) He calls his servants [professing Christians] and distributes gifts, talents and instructions to them. (verse 13) His citizens [unbelievers] send a message to him that they will no longer accept his authority. (verse 14) The nobleman having received the kingdom returns to his country. (verse 15) He then immediately begins to reckon with his servants to see if they have been obedient to his previous commands. (verse 16-26) He then reckons with his citizens; those who hated him. (verse 27) This is what will happen at the return of Christ at His 2nd coming.  Judgment will immediately ensue upon His arrival just as I Corinthians 15:21-24 intimates for after His appearing comes the end.  What must be repeated is that Christ was and is now in full possession of the eternal kingdom while still in the far country, that is, heaven; and has been given all power to order and establish it with justice forevermore. (See Isaiah 9:7)


But there is a back story to this parable.  Jesus gave it at that time because being nigh unto Jerusalem many thought that the kingdom should immediately appear. (Luke 19:11) Could that be?  Why, not?  First, the scriptures stated that Jesus had to die.  He must be cut off but not for Himself. The Lamb, the Suffering Servant, was slain from the foundation of the World but manifested in the last days for us according to the counsel and foreknowledge of God as contained in the OT prophecies. (See Isaiah 53:1-12, Daniel 9:26, John 11:47-53, Acts 2:22-24, I Peter 1:17-21, and Revelation 13:8)  Secondly, the kingdom could not come then because Jesus had not yet gone to the far country to receive it.  We will now spend a moment looking at the inspired writings of the Minor Prophet, Zechariah, chapter 9 with my emphasis.  
 
9.  Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Pause with me to imagine the emotions Zechariah must have experienced as he penned this scripture regarding the coming of the long awaited Messiah.  With what trembling must he have ensured that every jot and tittle were made correctly!  What tears of joy must have streamed

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Post by Bro John Today at 1:03 am

Part 2b


What tears of joy must have streamed down his face upon its completion!  I can hear him now as he leaps to his feet rubbing his eyes after laying his quill to rest.  Am I dreaming again he wonders?  No, this is the Word of Lord comes the response.  OUR king is coming, he whispers.  Our KING is coming, he muses as he begins to laugh aloud!  Our king IS COMING, as he breaks out into glorious praise!  After regaining his composure he continues reading but quickly lifts the paper closer to him as he questions whether he is reading correctly due to the wells of water from the tears still clouding his eyesight.  After a moment of reflection he lowers the parchment and his eyes and stares at the floor and with a cracking voice utters, have I faithfully written all?  Yes, comes the reassuring reply.  And as the light begins to fade and the curtain slowly falls I see him first bowing to the earth and then falling to his knees with his heart bursting with childlike trust, love, and thanksgiving and see him mouth the words, Yea, Lord for so it seemed good in thy sight. 


You see my Dispensationist friends, this prophecy concerning the king/kingdom was clear 520 years before the birth of our Lord.  Christ was not to come on a fine steed dressed in full battle array with an unsheathed sword and his face set as a flint against his flesh and blood adversaries. No, says the Holy Spirit.  He came in a lowly manner seated upon an ass and her foal.  He would not break the bruised reed, nor quench the smoking flax.   (See Isaiah 42:1-9, and Matthew 12:15-21) Fine Courtiers and noble ambassadors were not to herald his coming with the sound of trumpets or orations, neither would soldiers accompany him with military standard or high flying banners in his victorious entrance into the city.  Rather, it was the humble believers strawing palm branches in the way with their cries of  “Hosanna to the Son of David”, and the hoarse shouts of Jesus’ band of former fishermen turned fishers of men giving thanks and praise for all God had done by him which made the earth to ring again, so much so that when the pharisees chided Jesus to rebuke His disciples He stated that if they held their peace the very rocks would cry out. (See Matthew 21:1-10, and Luke 19:37-40)  


Jesus was JUST and brought  S-A-L-V-A-T-I-O-N, not from mortal men here below, but from spiritual wickedness in high places.  He came not to unseat Caesar from his throne, but Satan, the Ruler of Darkness from his dominion. He did not come to liberate men’s bodies from a maximum security facility but from the Devil’s House of Bondage.  Christ bound the strong-man in life and crushed his head in death triumphing over him at the cross. Upon His ascension He led captivity captive and gave gifts to men, and at Pentecost He poured out the Holy Ghost. (See Luke 11:13-23, Colossians 2:15, Psalms 68:18, Ephesians 4:8, and Acts 2)


My Dispensationalist friend, there never was a “plan b” with God.  One of the greatest lies of  Dispensationalism is taking an obvious POWERFUL DECLARATION TO BE JOYFULLY RECEIVED and turning it on its head into a mere offer to be accepted or rejected as you see fit. No, the clear fact is Jesus did not offer the Jews the kingdom they were looking for or THEY WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED IT!  No, the king/kingdom that was promised, prophesied and as we shall soon see announced, proclaimed to be at hand, and set up and commenced is not the same kingdom at all; just as Jesus told Pilate.  Yes, He was a king, but no, His kingdom was not of this world. Final Word: Jesus was crucified for claiming to be a king. (See John 18:33-19:22)                      

TO BE CONTINUED……………..

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