Re: Talmudism

by On the Edge Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:26 am

zone wrote:

xtian zionists think unbeliving jews are Pentateuch minus knowing Jesus. what could be further from the truth?

"My opinion of Christian Zionists? They're scum, but don't tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now." Benjamin 'Bibi' Netanyahu P.M of Israel

(I can't totally verify that quote, but you all may have come across it now and then already. Too bad it isn't caught on video!)

by louthesaint Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:38 am

THE TALMUDIC BABYLONIAN SKULL CAPS
Here is a wee bit of Trivia for you!
Looking at a youtube of president Obama praying at the wailing wall He is wearing a jewish skull cap called a 'yamaka'.
I decided to look into skull caps! well, not only do rabbis wear them when praying but popes and cardinals also wear these skull caps when praying, they are called 'zuchetto'
Buddhist priests in china wear skull caps called 'boa-tzu' what makes my research even more interesting is the fact that God 's word says "Every man praying or prophesying,having his head covered dishonoureth his Head (Christ) 1Cor11:4 Amazing!!!
Also in the Old testament of Moses, it is said by God; "They shall not make boldness upon their head" Lev21:1,5
It is obvious that the 'skull cap' gives the appearance of boldness and that it is something detestable and in opposition to God.
Think if you know of any preachers or prophets today that wear skull caps? think of Messianic prophets/teachers like Michael Root ect
The origin of this skull cap is part of the ancient Babylonian Mysteries and as such, is part of the allurement of the whore of Rev17:5,6 the persecutor of the saints of the Most High God. Look up Ezekiel 8:6-17

Blessings

.....

by zone Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:18 pm

louthesaint wrote:THE TALMUDIC BABYLONIAN SKULL CAPS
Here is a wee bit of Trivia for you!
Looking at a youtube of president Obama praying at the wailing wall He is wearing a jewish skull cap called a 'yamaka'.
I decided to look into skull caps! well, not only do rabbis wear them when praying but popes and cardinals also wear these skull caps when praying, they are called 'zuchetto'
Buddhist priests in china wear skull caps called 'boa-tzu' what makes my research even more interesting is the fact that God 's word says "Every man praying or prophesying,having his head covered dishonoureth his Head (Christ) 1Cor11:4 Amazing!!!
Also in the Old testament of Moses, it is said by God; "They shall not make boldness upon their head" Lev21:1,5
It is obvious that the 'skull cap' gives the appearance of boldness and that it is something detestable and in opposition to God.
Think if you know of any preachers or prophets today that wear skull caps? think of Messianic prophets/teachers like Michael Root ect
The origin of this skull cap is part of the ancient Babylonian Mysteries and as such, is part of the allurement of the whore of Rev17:5,6 the persecutor of the saints of the Most High God. Look up Ezekiel 8:6-17

Blessings

.....

outstanding Lou.
i have read that when rabbis visit the inner sanctum of Mormon temples, they do indeed remove their yarmulke. they say they are in such an holy place....

by **strangelove** Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:06 am

“[m]uch of what exists in Judaism is absent in the Bible, and much of what is in the Bible cannot be found in Judaism. . . . Judaism is not the religion of the Bible.”

- Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser, Judaism and the Christian Predicament (1966), pp. 59 and 159

by **strangelove** Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:57 am

"mediation implies the inadequacy of the human effort to reach out Godwards. Judaism is founded on the premise that man is capable by virtue of his moral effort of approaching God. Hence, God's coming to man's aid not only becomes superfluous, but actually interferes with the progress of human development.”

- Hertz, Dr. Joseph H., The Authorized Daily Prayer Book, 1975, p. 882.

by **strangelove** Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:03 am

Recent quote material credited to Edward Hendrie - 'Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great'

by **strangelove** Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:16 am

"One of the first things I was taught when I began my surgical training about 50 years ago was that I must never spit into an open wound. To my knowledge, that is still a good rule.

As ridiculous as such a statement sounds, it is not much more ridiculous than the idea of deliberately exposing a freshly cut incision on the penis of a newborn — whose immune mechanisms are, of course, not yet fully developed — to the germs in human saliva. Any fool should know that such virulent bacteria and viruses must never come into direct contact with a wound, much less that of a neonate."

- Dr. Sherwin Nuland, Jewish surgeon, 'Metzitzah B’peh: to Suck or Not to Suck', December 22, 2006

by **strangelove** Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:36 am

"In this Jewish-Germanic world, in continual movement, profound currents of popular magic had, over time, distorted the basic framework of Jewish religious law, changing its forms and meanings. It is in these "mutations" in the Jewish tradition – which are, so to speak, authoritative – that the theological justifications of the commemoration in mockery of the Passion of Christ is to be sought, which, in addition to its celebration in the liturgical rite, was also intended to revive, in action, vengeance against a hated enemy continually reincarnated throughout the long history of Israel (the Pharaoh, Amalek, Edom, Haman, Jesus). Paradoxically, in this process, which is complex and anything but uniform, elements typical of Christian culture may be observed to rebound -- sometimes inverted, unconsciously but constantly -- within Jewish beliefs, mutating in turn, and assuming new forms and meanings. These beliefs, in the end, became symbolically abnormal, distorted by a Judaism profoundly permeated by the underlying elements and characteristic features of an adversarial and detested religion, unintentionally imposed by the same implacable Christian persecutor."

- Ariel Toaff, Blood Passover, at 10-11.

"At this point, in the traditional reading of the Haggadah, according to the custom of the Ashkenazi Jews, the curses against the Egyptians were transformed into an invective against all the nations and enemies hated by Israel, with explicit reference to the Christians. "From each of these plagues may God save us, but may they fall on our enemies". Thus recited the formula reported by rabbi Jacob Mulin Segal, known as Maharil, active at Treviso around the last twenty years of the 14th century, in his Sefer ha-minhagim ("Book of Customs"), which unhesitatingly identified the adversaries of the Jewish people with the Christians, who deserved to be cursed. It seems that this custom was in force among German Jews even before the First Crusade. The sprinkling of the wine, which was a surrogate of the blood of the persecutors of Israel, onto the table, simultaneously with the recitation of the plagues of Egypt."

- Ariel Toaff, Blood Passover, pg 167.

"The head of the family takes a bit of the blood of the Christian child and drops it in his glass full of wine [...] then, putting his finger in the wine, with that wine where the blood of the Christian child has been shaken, he sprinkles the table and food on the table with it, pronouncing the Hebraic formula in commemoration of the ten curses, which God sent to the refractory Egyptian people who refused to liberate the Jewish people. At the end of the reading, the same head of the family, referring to the Christians, utters the following words (in Hebrew): ‘thus we beseech God that he may similarly direct these ten curses against the gentiles, who are enemies of the Jewish faith.’"

- Ariel Toaff, Blood Passover, pg 176.

"Samuele vaguely attributed these traditions to the rabbis of the Talmud (Iudei sapientiores in partibus Babiloniae), who were said to have introduced the ritual in a very remote epoch, "before Christianity attained its present power." Those scholars, united at a learned congress, were said to have concluded that the blood of a Christian child was highly beneficial to the salvation of souls, if it was extracted during the course of a memorial ritual of the passion of Jesus, as a sign of contempt and scorn for the Christian religion. Over the course of this counterritual, the innocent boy, who had to be less than seven years old and had to be a boy, like Jesus, was crucified among torments and expressions of execration, as had happened to Christ.’"

- Ariel Toaff, Blood Passover, pg 182-3

by **strangelove** Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:52 am

"But we have ample evidence that one great branch of commerce fell almost entirely into the hands of the Jews — the internal slave-trade of Europe. It is impossible to suppose but that this strange state of things must have inspired a sort of revengeful satisfaction into the mind of the zealous Israelite. While his former masters, or, at least, his rulers, the Christians, were wailing over their desolate fields, their ruined churches, their pillaged monasteries, their violated convents, he was growing rich amid the general ruin, and, perhaps, either purchasing for his owe domestic service, at the cheapest price, the fairest youths, and even high-born maidens, or driving his gangs of slaves to the different markets, where they still bore a price."

- 'The History of the Jews' by H.H. Milman 3:48

by **strangelove** Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:30 am

[Some of the passages in the Talmud that deal with Jesus] "were long ago censored for fear of provoking Christian persecutors. Narrations concerning Jesus's life, death and fate beyond the grave were all expunged...."

- Jewish writer David Klighoffer, 'Why the Jews Rejected Jesus' page 5.

by **strangelove** Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:31 am

Recent quote material credited to Jonas E. Alexis 'Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism Volume 1'

by **strangelove** Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:14 pm

"The notion of "Jewish shamanism" may seem like an oxymoron to a lot of people, but it happens to be an integral part of the Jewish tradition that has been suppressed for centuries.[...] Shamanism and sorcery are NOT antithetical to the Hebrew scriptures."

- Gershon Winkler, 'Magic of the Ordinary: Recovering the Shamanic in Judaism' pages 1-3 (North Atlantic Books, Berkeley, CA: 2002)

by **strangelove** Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:25 am

"While not all Jews practice Judaism, in the iron-consensus among contemporary Jews, Jews who practice Christianity cease to be part of the ethnic Jewish community, while those who practice Buddhism remain within. Buddhism, not a monotheism (not even theistic) is viewed as a philosophy, not a competing religion. Christianity, monotheist as is Judaism, reaching back to the same Scriptures, viewing the history of humanity within the same structures, sharing much in traditions of ethics, is a competing religion; for Jews and the diverse Judaisms, moreover, the long and bloody record of Christian antipathy to the Jews and Judaism, the massacres and pogroms and “Christ-killer” epithets, the annual Passion narratives with their dreadful portrayal of “the Jews” - these serve to place Christianity outside the range of commitments that the Jewish ethnic community can tolerate."

- Rabbi Jacob Neusner, 'Jew and Judaist, Ethnic and Religious: How They Mix in America', American Council for Judaism website.

by **strangelove** Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:12 pm

“The true character of Judaism cannot be appreciated except by an intimate acquaintance with the Oral Law…What makes us and our faith distinct and unique is the oral tradition as the authentic key to an understanding of the written text we call the Torah.”

- Former Chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom, Immanuel Jakobovitz. Quoted in Michael L. Brown, What Do Jewish People Think about Jesus? (Grand Rapids: Chosen Books, 2007), 32.

by **strangelove** Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:14 pm

“Torah is represented by sayings not found in Scripture, set forth by sages not credited with the authorship of Scriptural books. What is implicit, then, is that an oral component of the Instruction of Sinai, alongside the written part, forms the mediums of God’s revelation to the Israelite community.”

- Jacob Neusner, The Talmud, xiv.

by zone Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:02 am

What is Mashiach and Redemption

this is long, but worth listening to.
from approx the 4 minute to the 20 minute mark you find the base of Dispensationalism.

later on he scoffs at the idea the OT means the Messiah would actually come riding on a donkey.

then into it, he carefully describes how the Rabbis say the days just before Mashiach (course they just do what dispies do - hit reset on the fulfilled stuff) there would be WAR BETWEEN ISHMAEL AND EDOM -

Edom being Christians.

and that this is supposedly Hashem's doing cuzza Edom being so mean.

then the financial crashes are discussed...how the world has to go into poverty to be humbled. and that if the jews want to do reasonably well in the coming time of the "poor man" (riding on a donkey - lol), they would do well to move to Israel now.

quite revealing.

by **strangelove** Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:23 am

Israeli rabbi: It’s okay to kill innocent civilians and destroy Gaza

Here are a few lines from the ruling (pictured below):

“The Torah of Israel guides us in all walks of life, private and public, on how to behave during war and also how to keep moral standards.

The Maharal from Prague (Rabbi Judah Loew), in his book Gur Arye, clearly writes that… in all wars the attacked people are allowed to attack fiercely the people from whom the attackers came from and they do not have to check if he personally belongs to the fighters.

Therefore, during war the attacked people are allowed to punish the enemy population in any punishment it finds worthy, such as denying supplies or electricity and also to bomb the whole area according to the discretion of the army minister and not to just simply endanger soldier’s lives but to take crushing deterrence steps to exterminate the enemy.

In the case of Gaza, the Minister of Defense will be allowed to instruct even the destruction of Gaza so that the south will no longer suffer and to avoid harm to our people who have been suffering for so long from the surrounding enemies.”

Any kind of talk about humanism and consideration are moot when speaking of saving our brothers in the south and in the rest of the country and bringing back quiet to our country.” Source

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2014/07/israeli-rabbi-its-okay-to-kill-innocent.html

by **strangelove** Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:21 pm

"There’s a whole machinery of brainwashing in Israel which really accompanies each of us from early childhood, and I’m a product of this machinery as much as anyone else. [We are taught] a few narratives that it’s very hard to break. That we Israelis are the ultimate and only victims. That the Palestinians are born to kill, and their hatred is irrational. That the Palestinians are not human beings like us… So you get a society without any moral doubts, without any questions marks, with hardly public debate. To raise your voice against all this is very hard.”

From "Is Gideon Levy the most hated man in Israel or just the most heroic?" - THE INDEPENDENT, FRIDAY 25 JULY 2014.

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