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Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:10 am

if you have any more stuff like the EO radiocast i would like to consider it.

we're really short on time. i have to study.

they're going to go into syria and iran.

after that i don't know what the world will be like.

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Post by unclefester on Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:41 am

zone wrote:if you have any more stuff like the EO radiocast i would like to consider it.

we're really short on time. i have to study.

they're going to go into syria and iran.

after that i don't know what the world will be like.

zone.

What are ya hearing or reading on this Zone ? Boy o' boy ..... if it is indeed soon to take place, this is getting serious as serious can be.
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Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am

hi Fes.

its part of the Talmudic plan to own 'Greater Israel' (and control the entire region)....

they've talked of it openly and have been trying for a long time - their plans for iran keep getting thwarted - cheney sent a bomber, but white hats in US averted that disaster. they're behind schedule.

it's in Project For A New American Century (PNAC): put together by the "NeoCons" (which is just a nice way of saying Trotsyites in the US gov't). its the little tail wagging the big dog.

here's an old interview with wesley clark:

Gen. Wesley Clark Says Pentagon Had Plan in 2001 to Attack Seven Countries in Five Years

By davidswanson - Posted on 04 March 2007

This was pointed out by Kelly Gerling
This is an excerpt of Gen. Wesley Clark in a Democracy Now interview with Amy Goodman:

GEN. WESLEY CLARK: I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, "Sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments." And he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail."

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Well, don't show it to me." And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, "You remember that?" He said, "Sir, I didn't show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!"

AMY GOODMAN: I'm sorry. What did you say his name was?

GEN. WESLEY CLARK: I'm not going to give you his name.

AMY GOODMAN: So, go through the countries again.

GEN. WESLEY CLARK: Well, starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon, then Libya, then Somalia and Sudan, and back to Iran.
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Senior Israeli, US Intelligence Figures Warn of Israeli Attack Against Iran

Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:17 am

Senior Israeli, US Intelligence Figures Warn of Israeli Attack Against Iran

Thursday 28 July 2011
by: Richard Silverstein, Truthout | News Analysis


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu holds an alleged Iranian missile manual as Defense Minister Ehud Barak looks on at a press conference near a ship seized in the Mediterranean on Tuesday by the Israeli navy in Ashdod, Israel, on March 16, 2011. (Photo: Rina Castelnuovo / The New York Times)



In 2010, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened a meeting of the seven senior ministers in his government responsible for major policy decisions of war and peace. He and his Defense Minister Ehud Barak sought approval for an Israeli attack on Iran.

What they didn't bargain for was the adamant opposition of almost all the senior military and intelligence chiefs including Meir Dagan (Mossad), Yuval Diskin (Shabak), Gabi Ashkenazi (Israel Defense Forces). Alternate versions of the story also include President Shimon Peres and Israel Defense Forces (IDF) intelligence chief Amos Yadlin among the opponents. Dagan in particular, who was invited to the meeting to brief the ministers, waged war on the plan.

http://www.truth-out.org/senior-israeli-us-intelligence-figures-warn-israeli-attack-against-iran/1311796492
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Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:18 am





all this Arab Spring business is just this agenda moving ahead.
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Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:24 am

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iran-20040224.htm

Project for the New American Century



February 24, 2004

MEMORANDUM TO:OPINION LEADERS

FROM:GARY SCHMITT

SUBJECT: Regime Change for Iran


We would like to draw your attention to the following op-ed by Michael McFaul and Abbas Milani in yesterday's Wall Street Journal ("Solidarity with Iran"). In the face of Iranian clerics' assault on the democratic process leading up to Iran's recent parliamentary elections, the authors argue that it is time for the Bush administration to demonstrate that its commitment to democracy in the Middle East extends to U. S. policy toward Iran.
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Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:29 am

Paul Wolfowitz defends his war.
by PETER J. BOYER
Issue of 2004-11-01
Posted 2004-10-25

On the night of October 5th, a group of Polish students, professors, military officers, and state officials crowded into a small auditorium at Warsaw University to hear Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, give a talk on the subject of the war in Iraq. It was an unusually warm evening for October, and every seat was filled; the room seemed nearly airless. Wolfowitz began by joking that his father, a noted mathematician, would have been proud to see him in this academic setting, even as he was saddened that the younger Wolfowitz had pursued the political, rather than the “real,�? sciences. After a few minutes, Wolfowitz’s voice, which normally has a soft tremble, grew even more faint, and his aspect became wan. For an instant, he seemed actually to wobble.

It had been a tiring day, preceded by an overnight flight from Washington. This was to have been a routine official trip for Wolfowitz—a visit with soldiers in Germany and some bucking up of Iraq-war allies in Warsaw and London. The bucking up, however, was made a bit more complicated by developments within the Administration. The previous afternoon, as Wolfowitz was preparing to board his plane at Andrews Air Force Base, an aide had handed him a report containing some vexing news. Wolfowitz’s boss, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, had just delivered a speech in New York and, in a question-and-answer exchange afterward, had declared that he had not seen any “strong, hard evidence�? linking Al Qaeda with Saddam Hussein’s regime. Rumsfeld’s unexpected remark—undercutting one of the Administration’s principal arguments for going to war—had already prompted press inquiries at the Pentagon, suggesting a bad news cycle ahead. Meanwhile, the Washington Post was preparing to report that L. Paul Bremer, the former administrator of the American-led occupation of Iraq, had faulted the U.S. postwar plan for lacking sufficient troops to provide security—affirming a principal contention of the Administration’s critics. In addition, the government’s Iraq Survey Group, headed by Charles Duelfer, was about to release a final report on the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq; already the report’s substance was being summed up in headlines as “report discounts iraqi arms threat.�? And the Times had learned of a new C.I.A. assessment casting doubt on links between the Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Saddam’s regime—undermining yet another of the Administration’s rationales for the war.
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Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:30 am


October 18, 2007, 1:34 PM

The Secret History of the Impending War with Iran That the White House Doesn't Want You to Know


Two former high-ranking policy experts from the Bush administration say the U.S. has been gearing up for a war with Iran for years, despite claiming otherwise. It'll be Iraq all over again.


Read more: http://www.esquire.com/features/iranbriefing1107#ixzz1UUkjLqHR
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Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:35 am

Preventing the Impending War on Iran


by Prof. Marjorie Cohn

Global Research, November 23, 2007
Rhetoric flowing out of the White House indicates the Bush administration is planning a military attack on Iran . Officials in Saudi Arabia , a close Bush ally, think the handwriting is on the wall. "George Bush's tone makes us think he has decided what he is going to do," according to Rihab Massoud, Prince Bandar ben Sultan's right-hand man. Saudi Social Affairs Minister Abdel Mohsen Hakas told Le Figaro, "We are getting closer and closer to a confrontation."
As Bush and Cheney try to whip us into a frenzy about the dangers Iran poses, their argument comes up short. They say Iran is developing nuclear weapons, but Mohamed ElBaradei, director of the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), says there is "no evidence" of this. They say Iran is sending deadly weapons into Iraq to kill U.S. troops, but those devices can be manufactured in any Iraqi machine shop. Now the New York Times reports most of the foreign fighters in Iraq come, not from Iran , but from two Bush allies - Saudi Arabia and Libya . An estimated 90 percent of suicide bombings are carried out by foreign fighters. And senior U.S. military officials believe the financial support for Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia comes primarily from Saudi Arabia .
Yet the Bush/Cheney rhetoric about Iran continues to escalate. In light of the lack of evidence Iran is actually developing nukes, Bush equated Iranian "knowledge" to make nuclear weapons with World War III. "If you’re interested in avoiding World War III," he said recently, "it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon." This substantially lowers the bar for a U.S. attack on Iran .
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Iran vs Israel: What The Media Wants You To Forget

Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:43 am

Iran vs Israel: What The Media Wants You To Forget


The corporate media have been given their orders to throw the focus back on to Iran.

Here is a recap of what they are trying to make you forget.

1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.

2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.

5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.

6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.

7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.

9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.

10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.

11. Recently revealed documents prove not only that Israel has nuclear weapos, but actually tried to sell some to Apartheid South Africa. Who else Israel approached to sell nuclear weapons remains an unasked question.

12. In 1965, Israel stole over 200-600 pounds of weapons-grade uranium from the United States.

13. Declassified documents from the former South African regime prove not only that Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades, but has tried to sell them to other countries!

We all need to be Joe Wilson right now. We need to stand up and scream, "LIAR!" at every politician and every talking media moron that is pushing this war in Iran. And we need to keep dong it until they get the message that we will not be deceived any more.

Israel wants to send your kids off to die in Iran, and YOU are the only one that can stop them.

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Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:44 am

IRAN THE DANGER TO WORLD PEACE? I DON'T THINK SO!

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Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!


In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory.

Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD.

1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law include the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bring food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York.

In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009), Haiti (2010), etc. etc. etc. etc.

So, who is the danger to world peace?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/iran-danger-world-peace-i-dont-think-so-1
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'Israel plans major cyber war on Iran'

Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:48 am

'Israel plans major cyber war on Iran'
Aug 8, 2011

The Israeli military is plotting to wage a major cyber war against Iran by setting up a military cyber command, fearing that military action against Iranian nuclear sites will end in failure.

The new cyber command, which has been designated as central to 'defense capability' of the Israeli regime, would directly report to Tel Aviv's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, British newspaper The Sunday Times reported Sunday.

The development comes following an earlier joint Israeli-American effort to sabotage computer systems at Iran's newly-built Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant through a malware virus Stuxnet in cooperation with German Siemens Corporation that supplied Iran with its widely-used industrial control system for power plants.

"Israel must turn into a global cyber superpower," said Netanyahu in a recent meeting with the regime's cyber warfare experts.
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war in syria continues

Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:49 am

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Syria, Libya, Egypt and Middle East unrest

Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:50 am

Syria, Libya, Egypt and Middle East unrest - Thursday 4 August 2011


• Syria: 109 reported killed in Hama today
• Saif Gaddafi: I am making a deal with Islamists
• Egypt: Trial of Habib el-Adly adjourned until 14 August

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2011/aug/04/syria-libya-egypt-middle-east-unrest
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THIS B.S. FROM '06 says it all

Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:52 am

From The Sunday Times
September 3, 2006

Israel plans for war with Iran and Syria

Uzi Mahnaimi, Tel Aviv, and Sarah Baxter, New York
THREATENED by a potentially nuclear-armed Tehran, Israel is preparing for a possible war with both Iran and Syria, according to Israeli political and military sources.
The conflict with Hezbollah has led to a strategic rethink in Israel. A key conclusion is that too much attention has been paid to Palestinian militants in Gaza and the West Bank instead of the two biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the region, who pose a far greater danger to Israel’s existence, defence insiders say.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article626630.ece
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Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:54 am

Will Israel attack Iran in 2011

Ehud Barak, told a visiting congressional delegation that the world had at most eighteen months “in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable”



When WikiLeaks dumped its first trove of purloined State Department cables on the world last week, Fast Company ran the whole thing through “a simple word cloud generator,” a computer application that uses different lettering sizes to depict the frequency with which specific words appear in a given body of text.



The resulting graphic looked like a fried egg, sunny-side up, with a big, yellow-orange “IRAN” as the yolk. The hundred or so other words (with “RUSSIA,” “NUCLEAR,” and “MISSILE” a bit less small than the rest) looked like the salt and pepper.
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NATO Envoy: Military Planning Against Iran and Syria is Underway

Post by zone on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:57 am

NATO Envoy: Military Planning Against Iran and Syria is Underway


Mac Slavo
August 8th, 2011
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The grand chessboard is in play.

Last month we reported that the Pentagon has issued a warning order to ‘Prepare for War’.

According to Dmitry Rogozin, Russia’s envoy to NATO, it’s not just Israel and the Pentagon that are getting ready to expand the middle east theater:


Rogozin said in an interview with Russia’s Izvestia daily newspaper published on Friday that the NATO was pursuing a long-reaching goal of preparing an attack on Iran, adding that the alliance intends to change governments whose views do not coincide with those of the West.

“The noose around Iran is tightening. Military planning against Iran is underway. And we are certainly concerned about an escalation of a large-scale war in this huge region,” Rogozin added.

The Russian envoy further pointed out that Syria and later Yemen could be NATO’s last steps on the way to launch an attack on Iran.

This comes as there are speculations that Israel is preparing for an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities to divert attention from Palestinian efforts to join the United Nations.

Source: Press TV (August 6, 2011)
If Russia is to be believed (and be assured that Mr. Rogozin would not be giving interviews without prior consent from Mr. Putin and President Medvedev) the missile defense shield being built by the EU is designed not to defend against missiles from Iran, but to prepare for an attack:


Washington has said its nuclear missile defense plans were designed to prevent any possible missile strikes from Iran or North Korea.

“The missile defense system is not purely a defensive system,” envoy Dmitry Rogozin said. “There are serious and authoritative experts in Russia and in other countries who fear that the creation of a European missile defense system, officially assigned the task of blocking a threat from Iran, may in fact be a pretext for preparing an attack on Iran.”

Source: Ria Novosti (July 28, 2011)
Since 2001 Western nations have continued to expand their prescence in the region, and with the events in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and other nations it’s becoming clear that not only is World War III on the horizon, we may very well be involved in it right now. Tension is building, and as the economic, financial and political woes in the US come to a head, we can fully expect blame to be shifted, in one form or another, to Iran and others who will be deemed hostile to world peace and the safety of the United States.



Iran is in play, but first Syria and Yemen may need to be addressed. Rogozin claims that this, too, is becoming reality:


NATO is planning a military campaign against Syria to help overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad with a long-reaching goal of preparing a beachhead for an attack on Iran, Russia’s envoy to NATO Dmitry Rogozin said.



The UN Security Council condemned on Wednesday ongoing violence in Syria and urged the country’s authorities to stop using force against peaceful protesters, while saying the current situation in the country has not yet called for NATO interference.”



[This statement] means that the planning [of the military campaign] is well underway. It could be a logical conclusion of those military and propaganda operations, which have been carried out by certain Western countries against North Africa,” Rogozin said in an interview with the Izvestia newspaper published on Friday.

Source: Ria Novosti (August 5, 2011)
We can ignore this as pure speculation and conjecture, or we can consider that this is how World Wars have started in the past. The chess pieces moved around on the board for over a decade before World War I became reality. The same was true for World War II.



What we may be witnessing now is the prelude to a third war that will encompass most of the world. If Iran is attacked it is difficult to predict how the Chinese and the Russians will respond, but considering their position on Libya, they won’t be happy about it. Couple that with trillions in their reserves that will be hyperinflated away and the battle for critical resources like oil, water and food, and we have a recipe for disaster.



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Post by ada on Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:58 am

Hi Zone my dear.
Please don't be afraid.
I know what you mean..

Here is further information..

Beginning of the Demise of Israel - and the World?



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LATEST DEVELOPMENT:DEBKAfile newsticker at 23. 45 on 8 Aug. 2011:
Erdogan calls emergency cabinet meeting attended by army, intel chiefs
on Turkey’s action in light of continuing Syrian military slaughter

IMMINENT: DEBKAfile (Israeli Intelligence Service blog) 8 Aug. 2011:
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton asked Turkey’s foreign minister
Ahmet Davutoglu to press Syria to “return its military to the barracks,”
during his visit to Syria Tuesday (9 Aug.). Behind the demand was an ultimatum that if Assad continued on his present bloody path, NATO member Turkey would intervene militarily in the crisis. This is the last warning from Ankara – and therefore NATO – that Turkey was about to intervene militarily in Syria. Assad spurned the ultimatum: He embarked on his Deir el-Zour operation Sunday in order to present Washington and Ankara with a fait accompli..
Debkafile’s Iranian sources report that in the last few days, Tehran has repeatedly warned Ankara that Iran will
not stand aside for a military operation against Syria and would come
to the aid of the Assad regime. It was indicated that Turkish attacks on Syrian military targets would bring forth Iranian attacks on the Turkish army and American bases in Turkey. Turkish
Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan declared Saturday … Turkey could not
remain a bystander to the violence… “but must do what is necessary.”

*

LATEST: DEBKAfile 5 Aug. 2011 Twelve hours after Russian President Dmitry Medvedev warned Assad he faced a “sad fate” if he failed to introduce reforms, Moscow’s
envoy to NATO Dmitry Rogozin accused the Western alliance of planning a
military campaign against Syria to help overthrow the Assad regime
“with the long-reaching goal of preparing a beachhead for an attack on
Iran.
“In an Izvestia interview Friday, Aug. 5, Rogozin added:
“This statement means that the planning [of the military campaign] is
well underway.”The noose around Iran is tightening,” he said. “Military planning against Iran is underway. And we are certainly concerned about an escalation of a large-scale war in this huge region.”

(See Isaiah 17).

Summary: “The Arab Spring” has slopped over on
Israel. which is now seeing rapidly growing popular mass protests by an
increasingly impoverished middle class, whose wages cannot pay for their
accomodations, food etc. The wealth of Israel is in the hands of a
small elite. The protesters have pitched tents along the Rothschild
Avenue in Tel Aviv - and similar camps and demonstrations are now
appearing in all bigger Israeli cities and towns - and general strikes
have been announced. This is a disaster for the governing Likud party -
and in particular for Prime Minister Netanyahu, whose head the
demonstraters demand on a plate. The demonstraters plan to endure until
the UN General Assembly vote on a Palestinian state in Sept., intending
to reinforce the pressure, so that the government resigns on the eve of
the UN vote. They hope this will make many countries vote for
Palestinian statehood within the 1967 borders. They think this will
bring peace and less military expenditures. But in vain. For the
Palestinians want every inch of Israel - and all of the millions of
Palestinian refugees back to Israel proper. This and alone conceding
East Jerusalem or withdrawal behind the 1967 borders would trigger a
civil war in Israel between secular and orthodox Jews.


So, one of the organizers of the tent demonstrations fears that
Anti-Amelekite Netanyahu might trigger some war - with Lebanon, Syria
and /or Iran – to draw attention to a common vital issue.
US observers with insight have stated (and suddenly denied) that, with a
probability bordering on certainty, Netanyahu will attack Iran in
September - knowing that he would immediately draw a swaying US , which
through its threats without substance has lost any credibility in the
Near East, into the war, which will be suicidal for Israel. The Israeli
daily, the Haaretz, already sees an Iran war 2011 as a fait accompli,
Netanyahu and Ehud Barak being “hell bent” on war!


Biblical and Masonic prophecies abound with predictions on
exactly the wars that seem to be in the making now. These wars are
predicted to involve the whole world. The Bilderbergers at their June
2011 meeting cried for a “big bloody war” in the middle east now. And
very influential Doomsday sects are advisers to Netanyahu and the
Pentagon. They use Biblical Doomsday prophecies as their working plan -
thinking this will speed the coming of their Messiah, Ben David - for
the masons even the pure light of the doctrine of Lucifer - ignoring
that what they provoke are exactly the signs of the Second Coming of
their worst enemy, Jesus Christ. More and more observers think that this
scenario is inevitable sooner or later.


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Zachariah 11:16 – “For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the
land, [which] shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek
the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth
still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in
pieces.”


The “Arab Spring” has slopped over on Israel – apparently also supported by circles in Washington
– and now demonstrates that this UN constructed state is losing
cohesion due to a too wide span between poor and rich. Throughout 2000
years of Christianity, it has been preached acc. to Biblical prophecies
that the demise of a restored Israel would mean the demise of the whole
world and the Second Coming of Christ. This has even been forgotten by
most churches. Now Israel is restored as prophesied – but as an NWO
state, which is founded on Communism for the poor – and capitalism for
the few very rich, apparently. Today´s Israel is a reult of a
cooperation between 3 factors: 1. Theodor Herzl´s (see year of 1897) Zionism and 2. the Rothschild dynasty´s money. 3. Without WWII there would hardly have been an Israel. Hitler was probably the grandson of Salomon Rothschild in Vienna and here.

The Supreme Court building in Jerusalem (left), paid for by Rothschild, is a temple to Rothschild and that family´s one world state/government.

Debkafile 27 July 2011: Two
weeks ago, a motley group of youngish people set up a “tent city”in the
high-end Tel Aviv Rothschild Boulevard to protest the unavailability of
affordable housing in the city and other parts of the country
.
Since then, the movement, although never acquiring the same dimensions
or fury, has assumed three attributes of the uprisings in Arab lands: It enjoys backstage foreign political support, some from certain circles in Washington; it is exploiting genuine popular grievances for political capital; and it wants regime change, namely, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s head on a platter. The
protest movement grew out of the fragile underpinnings of that economy –
an underpaid, overtaxed workforce; a professional 20-50 aged class that
can’t make ends meet between overpriced food, housing (rents or
mortgages) and schooling for their children; no prospects of change and
the widest social gap in the Western world.

Today, they have shifted into parroting political watchwords borrowed from the lexicons of the Arab Revolt and left-wing extremism.
Netanyahu on July 27 promised new legislation before the Knesset’s
summer recess to meet their demands. Bibi believed his initiative would
take the wind out of the protesters’ sails. He was wrong. The
tent-protesters plan to keep going through August towards a peak
which makes the Netanyahu government doomed to fall on the eve of the UN vote.
The political havoc in Israel will persuade many countries to give
their votes to the Palestinians. A new Israeli government will recognize Palestinian independence within the 1967 boundaries, reversing the Netanyahu government’s firm rejection of this formula. Haaretz 31 July 2011: More than 150,000 protesters took to the streets in 12 Israeli cities, calling for a change in the division of wealth and the resignation of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Ansamed 26 July 2011: The movement of social protest in Israel is rapidly gaining ground and attracting new followers. The protest has been marked by tents in Tel Aviv and springing up in Jerusalem, Haifa and Beer Sheva. The difficulties faced by tenants - the first to set up the protest camps to denounce accommodation costs, which have sky-rocketed in cities - comes amid outrage from personnel in the public health system, who themselves have staged industrial action, including hunger strikes, as a result of a loss of spending power deriving from wages. The protest has today arrived outside the Knesset (the Israeli Parliament. The growing range of initiatives involves increasingly different sections of the impoverished middle-class,
a great threat to the Benyamin Netanyahu’s governing right-wing Likud
party. Those camping out in Tel Aviv, meanwhile, are refusing to loosen
their grip on the city’s elegant Rothschild Boulevardy. Protestors fromother sectors of society are also beginning to co-ordinate action.

In the Following video, an organizer of the tent protests in
Israel fears, that Netanyahu is under so much pressure that he might
start a war.





So, is war the answer?
Reuters 22 June 2011: Israeli
leaders holed up in a new underground nuclear bunker on Wednesday as
part of annual nationwide maneuvers to prepare for a possible missile
war with Iran, Syria and their Lebanese and Palestinian guerrilla
allies.


I bring the following remarkable statements by former CIA officer, Robert Baer, although he now goes back on his predictions! And Jeffrey Goldberg is said to do, too: Jeffrey Goldberg: The Atlantic Sept. 2010 : Based
on months of interviews, I have come to believe that the administration
knows it is a near-certainty that Israel will act against Iran soon if
nothing or no one else stops the nuclear program.”
Acc. to Business Insider 3 Aug. 2011,
Goldberg wrote, there was a greater than 50% chance that such an attack
would occur, if conditions that held last spring continued to hold this
summer (2011). I cannot find that in Goldberg´s original article. So,
it may have been deleted. Maybe the Stuxnet virus has made an attack on Iran unnecessary for now?
But most worrying: The Israeli NewspaperHaaretz 4 Aug. 2011 seems to see the 1. Iran war (in 2011) as a completed fact – and brings an article on how a commission will hold the war-bent Netanyahu and Ehud barak responsible afterwards!

The Huffington Post 15 July 2011 and repeated by Business Insider on 2 Aug. 2011 A longtime CIA officer who spent 21 years in the Middle East is predicting that “There is almost “near certainty” that Netanyahu is “planning an attack [on Iran] … and it will probably be in September before the vote on a Palestinian state. And he’s also hoping to draw the United States into
the conflict,” Robert Baer explained. .”..it’s a nightmare scenario. We
don’t have enough troops in the Middle East to fight a war like that. I
think we are looking into the abyss.”
Baer didn’t name sources for his prediction of an Israeli attack, but the few he did cite are all Israeli security figures who have publically warned that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak are hell-bent on war.

Baer is especially impressed by the unprecedented warning about
Netanyahu’s plans by former Mossad chief, Meir Dagan. Dagan left the
Israeli intelligence agency in September 2010 and two months ago
predicted that Israel would attack and that doing so would be “the
stupidest thing” he could imagine. According to Haaretz:
The Iranians have the capability to fire rockets at Israel for a period
of months, and Hizbollah could fire tens of thousands of grad rockets
and hundreds of long-range missiles, he said.
Baer said that the military is opposed, and so was the
civilian head of the military, former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates,
who used his influence to thwart an Israeli attack during the Bush and
Obama administrations. But he’s gone now and “there is a warning order inside the Pentagon” to prepare for war.

It should be noted that Baer says, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard would welcome a war.
They are “paranoid.” They are “worried about … what’s happening to
their country economically, in terms of the oil embargo and other
sanctions.” And they are worried about a population that increasingly despises the regime.

They need an external enemy. Because we are leaving Iraq, it’s Israel. But in order to make this threat believable, they would love an attack on their nuclear facilities, love to go to war in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and Iraq and hit us where they could.
Baer: Israel is “truly out of control.”
What happens when you see 100 F-16’s approaching Iraq and there
is a call to the White House [from Netanyahu] that says “We’re going
in, we’re at war with Iran”? What does the President of the United
States do? He has little influence over Bibi Netanyahu. …We can’t stop
him. And he knows it.

Actually, only one person matters: the president. If Israel bombed Iran tomorrow, Congress would forget all about partisan differences and run, not walk, to the House and Senate floors to endorse the attack and call for unstinting support for Israel.
That is what Congress always does, and will always do so long as the
lobby (and the donors it directs) are the key players in making our
Middle East policies.

Comment
However, the U.S. and Israel have several times threatened Iran with war and here and here and here and here – called the matter in question, then arranged a really credible military deployment around Iran , blinked and then withdrew - with the U.S. losing any military credibility in Middle East. If Iran is to be attacked Israel will have to go alone - and be pretty sure that the bought politicians in Israel Major (the U.S.) will join immediately. Or Syria grows so desperate as to attack Israel, as Assad’s cousin, Rami Makhlouf, has more than hinted at.

There is a drive for war in the Middle East. Netanyahu needs it to survive, the Iranian president, Ahmedinejad, sees war as a necessity for the coming of his 12. imam, the Mahdi. The Bilderbergers have just called for a major and bloody war in the Middle East – and Wolfgang Eggert´s Doomsday sects with great influence on Netanyahu and Pentagon are active to have this war follow the pattern described in Biblical prophecy.

ADDENDUM


The demise of Israel in Biblical prophecy
As for Israel, the Doomsday prophecies are particularly
sinister. Acc.to Esajas 17, the demise of Israel will follow upon the
total destruction of Damascus – and the demise of Baylon (Iraq). Luke 21
describes the demise of Israel in war. Matth. 24 describes no less than
a nuclear world war and and so do Habakuk 3, Jeremiah 25, Joel,
Zephaniah 1 and Isaiah 33:1–4. Zachariah 12:1–9 even predicts that Jews will fight Jews in the final battle over Jerusalem.

Palestine 1939: Left Jewish immigrants. Right nomades with sheep

The New American Standard Bible, Ezekiel 38: “And the word of the LORD came to me saying, 2 Son of man, set your face toward Gog of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh (The King James Bible translates this to “chief prince”), Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him 3 and say, Thus says the Lord GOD, “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, prince of Rosh,
Meshech and Tubal. 4 I will turn you about and put hooks into your
jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen,
all of them splendidly attired, a great company with buckler and shield,
all of them wielding swords; 5 Persia, Ethiopia and Put (Libya) with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6 Gomer with all its troops; Beth-togarmah
from the remote parts of the north with all its troops—many peoples
with you. 8 After many days you will be summoned; in the latter years
you will come into the land that is restored from the sword, whose
inhabitants have been gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had been a continual waste; but its people were brought out from the nations.” 19 “…I declare that on that day there will surely be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 22 “With pestilence and with blood I will enter into judgment with him; and I will rain on him and on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, a torrential rain, with hailstones, fire and brimstone.
23 “I will magnify Myself, sanctify Myself, and make Myself known in
the sight of many nations; and they will know that I am the LORD.” Ezekiel 39: 3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand. 4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel,
thou, and all thy bands, and the people that [is] with thee: I will
give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and [to] the beasts of
the field to be devoured. 6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I [am] the LORD.”
I.a. The New American Standard Bible and my old Bible mention Gog as the prince of the nation of Rosh.

Many Bibles have dropped “Rosh” from their versions of the Gog
prophecy – and some write that Rosh is not Russia – although Rosh is
exactly the Russian word today for Russia. Some do think there is substance in identifying Rosh with Russia. This comprehensive study: “The Prophecy That Is Shaping History: New Research on Ezekiel’s Vision of the End” – Jon Mark Ruthven, PhD Ihab Griess, PhD does indentify Russia/Ukraine convincingly with a people of Rosh, which had migrated out of Northern Turkey, and the other peoples from the North, that Ezekiel mentions. See the map below.
I know that the Pharisees have rewritten the Old Testament in many details so as to fit into their Talmudic master race ideology.
However, in Chapter 36, Ezekiel writes things so insulting to the
Israelites that today he would be jailed for racism in Western Europe. This speaks in favour of the athenticity of this prophecy.



The demise of Israel in Freemason “prophecy”/plan
This is what Albert Pike is said to have written (the imposter freemason Gabriel Jagond-Pager aka Leo Taxil, claimed in his book Le diable au XIXe siècle (1894)” that it was from a letter of Pike to Mazzini written in 1871: “The
Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences
caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political
Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in
such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism
(the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other
nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to
the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical
exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall
provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show
clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of
savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens,
obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of
revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and
the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, …will receive the true
light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of
Lucifer. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary
movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism,
both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”


Is this what is going to happen now? However, the U.S. and Israel
have several times threatened Iran with war and here and here and here
and here, began doubting, then organized a really credible
military deployment around Iran, and then retired - with the U.S. losing
any military credibility in Middle East.










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thanks ADA
i keep forgetting about Debka.
i'm not afraid, ADA.

i dropped fear of man long ago.
just want to be informed so i can give answers to those who wonder or are afraid (i know tons), and then tell them why i am not:
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[quote="zone"]Will Israel attack Iran in 2011

Ehud Barak, told a visiting congressional delegation that the world had at most eighteen months [b]“in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viablle"[/quote]



This statement alone speaks volumes. Tons of reading material Zone but I got thru most of it. Some I had previously looked at. This remark hits home, doesn't it ? "Whether this goes critical in September, or at some time in the future, is of no matter. War is coming to the world, as it always does when the economies of empires collapse and national interests over resources collide." Didn't mean to put you thru all that work Zone ......but a big thanks for your work and posts Smile
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