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Post by strangelove Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:55 am

Maybe in the conpiracy section we can get into this more deeply but, I just wanted a show of hands to see if, as I suspect, everyone gets their kids vaccinated, even though they may be aware of the dangers.

I put a poll in, you can post with your answer as well if you like.

So,,,,vaccinations...?? YES or NO ??
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Post by strangelove Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:57 am

YES.

(Dont ask)
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Post by zone Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:24 pm

NO
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Post by Timotheos Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:44 am

YES

(With qualifications, but I could only vote yea or neigh)
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Post by Skatergirl Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:13 am

NO
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Post by Adstar Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:54 am

I don't have any kids. So the burden of making
such a decision has been lifted off my shoulders. Thanks be to God.

I do not envy the responsibility on parents; in the end it is a decision they
have to make.


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Post by KingdomSeeker Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:21 am

(I also do not have any kids. But i try to vaccinate other peoples kids as much as possible..oh ...its yea or neigh...so...ummm...)


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Post by zone Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:42 pm

KingdomSeeker wrote:(I also do not have any kids. But i try to vaccinate other peoples kids as much as possible..oh ...its yea or neigh...so...ummm...)


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Post by MUSKOKAMAN Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:50 pm

When they were small and entering public school we had to have vaccinations or they would not be allowed to go to school.

But as for today the answer is NO

I believe our bodies make everything we need for survival in my opinion there is NO NEED to vaccinate for flues and the like and everyone I noticed who does gets sick and requires medicine to cure or illeviate their symptoms from temporary illness from said vaccine

You know me Doc. Just another conspiracy nut.....LOL

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Post by zone Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:50 pm

Immunize or Lose Family Tax Benefits

Must Have Child Immunizations to Receive Family Benefits---Australia
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Post by zone Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:53 pm


If You Go to Church, Heed This Warning



Posted By Dr. Mercola | December 06 2011 | 286,679 views

By Dr. Mercola


Recently the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, held an invitation-only call.

The call was co-sponsored by the U.S. Health and Human Services, the Office of Minority Health, and CDC.

Conspicuously, the end of the invitation read:


This call is off the record and is not for press purposes” --but it became public when it showed up on the HHS website.
Fortunately one of our staff was able to get on the call.

The focus of the call was on getting faith-based organizations to sponsor flu clinics with Walgreens.

Basically, they want to move inside your church, mosque or synagogue, and set up shop, with your pastor, priest, imam and rabbi on hand to convince you to get a flu shot.

As an example, they cited a priest who stopped in the middle of mass to roll up his sleeve and get vaccinated, inspiring the rest of his parish to line up behind him.
Talk to God, Get a Shot



The idea of holding out your arm and getting a shot in the middle of a worship service, with your pastoral leader urging you on, really seems to be pushing it. The reason they’re doing this, health officials said on the phone, is that they’ve found that non-traditional settings such as worship services can be highly effective in influencing people’s decisions.

Speaking directly to church leaders, Joshua DuBois, executive director of the White House Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnership, said:


“As trusted messengers, you’re able to spread messages and help get people vaccinated.”
Zeroing in on minorities, particularly older adults, blacks and Latinos, health officials said churches, mosques and schools are places where barriers to vaccinations can be taken down, and these minorities can be convinced to get vaccinated. Besides hosting flu shot clinics, churches can also help by putting reminders in their bulletins, and by church members personally reminding others to get their shots, officials said.

They even went so far as to encourage the churches to pay people’s insurance co-pays so they’d be more inclined to get the shots. For those who simply can’t pay anything, there’ll be 300,000 free shots given out as part of the flu vaccine crusade.
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The original concept of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, developed in 2001, was to help community leaders enhance the 1998 Initiative to Eliminate Racial and Ethnic Disparities in Health.

The partnership targets cancer screening, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, infant mortality, HIV/AIDS and vaccinations. It also originally covered complementary and alternative health care options, although that type of care, which would include health measures other than vaccines, was not even listed as an option during this phone conference.

For at least 10 years, this collaboration of community-based volunteers, nonprofit organizations and faith-based groups worked at a grassroots level in their respective neighborhoods, funded by Congress through various health care grants.

However, in 2010 the initiative took a turn with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which moved the initiative’s management to the Center for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, paving the way for the federal government to fund and run projects like flu clinics right in your church.

Interestingly, flu shots were already covered by most insurance plans, Medicare and the Vaccines for Children (VFC) program.

But for some reason health officials have decided it’s OK to push the government into places of worship, mid-service, to sell and administer vaccines – and this no-press-allowed phone call reiterated that over and over again. I can only wonder which vaccine they’ll move into your church next, all in the name of “community health.”
The Secret's Out – Flu Shots Are Hardly Effective, If at All



In February 2011, new research showed that 76 percent of white seniors get flu vaccines, with 68 percent of English-speaking Hispanic seniors getting them, and 64 percent of Spanish-speaking Hispanic seniors doing so. In the phone conference, officials emphasized that they want to increase flu vaccine coverage beyond those numbers.

But unfortunately, they neglected to mention the shocking lack of evidence supporting flu vaccines.

The truth is flu vaccines just don’t do what the CDC claims they do. I’ve written about this several times so far this year and the past few years, along with major news media like Time Health. Even the Centers for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) admitted on its website on November 4, 2011 that it’s time to revise public messages regarding this vaccine.

Specifically, what happened is that a study published in the prestigious journal The Lancet revealed that flu shots provide only “moderate protection” against the flu, and in some seasons is altogether “reduced or absent.”

Specifically, the Lancet said the vaccine is about 59 percent effective. But when you break the numbers down statistically, what it really works out to is that the vaccine prevents flu 1.5 times out of 100.

That’s right. Using the Lancet’s own numbers, statistics show that the vaccine only works 1.5 times out of 100.

It’s a far cry from the 60 percent the CDC claims on its website, or the 70 to 90 percent it claimed before it changed the numbers this year. Some people call this lying with statistics, but any way you look at it the secret’s out: flu vaccine statistics just don’t add up to warrant pushing them in your church – or anywhere for that matter

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/06/flu-shots-come-to-church.aspx
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Post by PneumaPsucheSoma Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:17 pm

A resounding... NO!

As an aside... My Father hadn't had any vaccine since childhood. During some health issues, he was guilted into getting a shingles vaccine because of a local outbreak. He contracted shingles immediately, which was the catalyst in a sequence of events that eventually contributed to his death in August of 2010. He had a severe case of shingles the entire last miserable year of his life.

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