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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:17 am

"...the ANC was prepared to depart from its fifty-year-old policy of non-violence to this extent that it would no longer disapprove of properly controlled violence. Hence members who undertook such activity would not be subject to disciplinary action by the ANC."

- Nelson Mandela, statement from the dock at the opening of the defence case in the Rivonia Trial. Pretoria Supreme Court, 20 April 1964.

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Joe Slovo (23 May 1926 – 6 January 1995) was a South African politician, long-time leader of the South African Communist Party (SACP), and leading member of the African National Congress.

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Between 1946 and 1950 he completed a law degree at Wits University and was a student activist. He was in the same class as Nelson Mandela.

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Slovo and Abongz Mbede emerged as two of the leaders of Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK), the military wing of the ANC, formed in alliance between the ANC and the SACP.

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After the elections of 1994 he became Minister for housing in Nelson Mandela's government...


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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:23 am

"At the beginning of June 1961, after a long and anxious assessment of the South African situation, I, and some colleagues, came to the conclusion that as violence in this country was inevitable, it would be unrealistic and wrong for African leaders to continue preaching peace and non-violence at a time when the Government met our peaceful demands with force."

- Nelson Mandela, statement from the dock at the opening of the defence case in the Rivonia Trial. Pretoria Supreme Court, 20 April 1964.

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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:35 am

"Nelson Mandela surely deserves our respect and admiration for his role in the struggle against apartheid. Because he is bound to play a key role in restructuring South African society, it is essential that his restructuring views be made clear. Questions relating to his political, economic and social tendencies must be answered.

Among these questions, none is more important than this: Given Mr. Mandela's avowed admiration and strong words of praise for Fidel Castro, Yasir Arafat, Muammar el-Qaddafi and Col. Mengistu Haile Mariam, and his consent to appear in public with the convicted Puerto Rican who shot up the United States Capitol in 1954, and given some of the antidemocratic, violent history of the African National Congress, along what lines would Mr. Mandela and his colleagues like to structure a future South Africa?

The fate of South Africa and the well-being of its citizens - black and white - depend in large measure on the answer."


- (Rep.) DAN BURTON, vice chairman of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Letter To the Editor of NYT, June 20, 1990.

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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:10 am



Nelson Mandela and Joe Slovo give the clenched fist salute.

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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:23 am

"In the 1950s, he was indeed a young radical, who came to favour an “armed struggle” and may once have been a secret member of the banned Communist party."

- Nelson Mandela obituary, The Telegraph Online

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"...research by a British historian, Professor Stephen Ellis, has unearthed fresh evidence that during his early years as an activist, Mr Mandela did hold senior rank in the South African Communist Party, or SACP. He says Mr Mandela joined the SACP to enlist the help of the Communist superpowers for the ANC's campaign of armed resistance to white rule."

- The Telegraph Online

"Madiba [Mandela] was also a member of the South African Communist Party, where he served in the Central Committee."

- ANC Website

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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:22 pm

"At the outset, I want to say that the suggestion made by the State in its opening that the struggle in South Africa is under the influence of foreigners or communists is wholly incorrect."

- Nelson Mandela, statement from the dock at the opening of the defence case in the Rivonia Trial. Pretoria Supreme Court, 20 April 1964.

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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:42 pm

“That sabotage was to form only the opening phase in the unfolding of armed struggle is revealed by other steps which were taken at the same time.  Before Umkhonto was formed, leading personalities had been sent out of the country to be trained in the art of guerilla struggle; an underground railway had been set up which carried hundreds of recruits abroad for guerilla-type instruction.  Early in 1962, almost immediately after the beginning of sabotage, Nelson Mandela had toured Africa and Europe to obtain support for the armed struggle and training facilities for guerillas.”

- Joe Slovo, former “chief of staff” of Umkhonto, [ANC terrorist wing], member of the ANC Revolutionary Council, secretary general of the SA Communist Party and an awardee of the Order of Lenin, “South Africa – No Middle Road,” a chapter of South Africa – the New Politics of Revolution (Pelican Books, 1976).

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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:07 pm

"The factors which necessitated the armed struggle still exist today. We have no option but to continue. We express the hope that a climate conducive to a negotiated settlement will be created soon so that there may no longer be the need for the armed struggle.

I am a loyal and disciplined member of the African National Congress. I am therefore in full agreement with all of its objectives, strategies and tactics."


- Nelson Mandela`s Address to a rally in Cape Town on his release from prison, 11 February 1990. LINK

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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:28 pm

THE IRA helped carry out one of the biggest bomb attacks against the South African apartheid government in the early 1980s, according to the memoirs of former senior ANC activist and politician Kader Asmal.

The former ANC cabinet minister and Trinity law professor, who died earlier this year, reveals in his memoirs published this week how volunteers recruited from Ireland carried out reconnaissance on one of the country’s most strategic installations – the Sasol oil refinery in Sasolburg, near Johannesburg, before it was bombed on June 1st, 1980.

The attack was carried out by Umkhonto we Sizwe, better known as MK, the military wing of the ANC, and struck a major blow against the apartheid state at the time.

In his book, Politics in my Blood , Asmal, founder of the Irish Anti-Apartheid Movement (IAAM), also claims Gerry Adams provided the IRA volunteers to carry out the mission after he contacted go-between Michael O’Riordan, then general secretary of the Communist Party of Ireland."


- The Irish Times (still looking for a link)

From Black Provos – The ANC And The IRA

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Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:01 pm

"No dedicated ANC member will ever heed the call to break with the SACP. We regard such a demand (from PW Botha) as a purely divisive (apartheid's) government strategy. It is in fact a call on us to commit suicide. Which man of honour will ever desert a life-long friend among his people? Which opponent will ever trust such a treacherous freedom fighter? Yet this is what the (apartheid) government is in effect asking us to do; to desert our faithful allies. We will not fall into that trap."

- Nelson Mandela, after his meeting with PW Botha in prison on 5 July 1989

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Post by Strangelove on Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:44 am

HOW TO BE A GOOD COMMUNIST
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Nelson Mandela


Link - https://ia600401.us.archive.org/31/items/HowToBeAGoodCommunist/Mandela.pdf

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Post by Strangelove on Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:37 pm

"“In our country, the struggle of the oppressed people is guided by the SA Communist Party and inspired by its policies.  We communist party members are the most advanced revolutionaries in modern history.  The people of South Africa, led by the communist party, will destroy capitalist society and build in its place socialism.  One must be a revolutionary… not a reformist.”..."

- Nelson Mandela, HOW TO BE A GOOD COMMUNIST


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Post by Strangelove on Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:22 pm

"In 1963 he [Joe Slovo] was fortuitously out of the country drumming up support for the A.N.C.'s military wing when police swooped down on the top leadership of the anti-apartheid struggle. He spent the next 27 years in exile, working as a propagandist and strategist of the A.N.C. guerrilla army and a conduit of aid and training from Moscow.

Mr. Slovo was a faithful apologist for the Soviet Union, even when others in the anti-apartheid movement, including his wife, were anxious about Soviet behavior.

[...]

But he said that given the chance, he would do nothing different, because fealty to Moscow was a prerequisite for leadership in the anti-apartheid struggle.

"Our minds were completely focused on what our position would be if we cut ourselves off," he said."


- NY Times article, Joe Slovo, Anti-Apartheid Stalinist, Dies at 68

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Post by Strangelove on Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:33 pm

"At his arrest in August 1962, Nelson Mandela was not only a member of the then underground South African Communist Party, but was also a member of our Party’s Central Committee. To us as South African communists, Comrade Mandela shall forever symbolise the monumental contribution of the SACP in our liberation struggle. The contribution of communists in the struggle to achieve the South African freedom has very few parallels in the history of our country. After his release from prison in 1990, Cde Madiba became a great and close friend of the communists till his last days."

- NELSON MANDELA: SACP statement on the passing away of Madiba.

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Post by Strangelove on Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:10 pm

"Q. Mayor Linda are you surprised at the tremendous reception Nelson Mandela has received during his tour of this country?

A. It is incredible to me, and pathetic, really, to see an unrepentant communist like Nelson Mandela, the leader of a communist terrorist organization that has carried out unspeakable acts of barbarism against the people of South Africa — both black and white, but mostly black — be welcomed with such enthusiasm in the United States of America. This is a terrible thing when your president and your Congress and your other political leaders put the honor and prestige of their offices behind this man and the movement he represents.

To present Mandela as the voice of, or the leader of, the black people of South Africa is laughable because it has no basis in reality. Unfortunately, we cannot just laugh this off, because there are very serious consequences to this foolishness. But Mandela and the ANC have no significant support from black South Africans. I know that may be hard to believe for Americans who have been subjected to this enormous propaganda over the past decade and particularly these past few weeks and days, but it is true. The vast majority of black South Africans fear and dread any future prospect of a South Africa under the rule of Mandela or the ANC. Because we know what they stand for, what they have done, and continue to do, in the name of "liberation." They would bring economic ruin and a reign of terror to our country. We don't want that."


- Tomsanqa Linda, former mayor of Ibhayi township, a municipality of over 400,000 black South Africans and  former president of the Eastern Province Council Association, an organization of councilors and mayors representing 74 townships with a total population of nearly 14 million. Interview with 'The New American', 1990.

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Post by Strangelove on Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:15 pm

"It is no secret to us in South Africa that the ANC is completely run by Joe Slovo, head of the SACP. As you know, when Mandela was released from prison, one of the first people he greeted was Joe Slovo. He praised Slovo and the Communist Party, and they in turn praised him, called him "comrade," and affirmed that ANC and SACP are one. This same Joe Slovo — a white man, Lithuanian-born — is a colonel in the KGB and one of the Soviet Union's most dedicated agents. He is working for his white masters in Russia to impose the same kind of totalitarian communist system that we now have in the so-called "Front-line States" — Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Angola — where brutal black puppets like Santos and Kaunda impose Marxist dictatorships on the black populations, under the supervision of their Cuban and Soviet rulers. So, you see, it is the ANC and their allies who are the real traitors to the black people of South Africa and the real collaborators with the enemy."

- Tomsanqa Linda, former mayor of Ibhayi township, a municipality of over 400,000 black South Africans, interview with The New American, 1990.

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"...the ANC terrorists have killed far more blacks than the government has. And I will tell you for certain that, when these ANC terrorist actions are going on, most black people are thankful when the police and security forces come in and shoot these terrorists."

- Tomsanqa Linda, former mayor of Ibhayi township, a municipality of over 400,000 black South Africans, interview with The New American, 1990.

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"...the mayors and councilors and their associations have repeatedly sent declarations to your Congress and the president urging an end to economic sanctions against South Africa. We have had huge demonstrations, with millions of black people calling for an end to sanctions and divestment. Sanctions are not hurting the white government, but they are hurting tens of thousands of black families. Sanctions undermine the black economic empowerment that is essential to black political empowerment. We do not want to inherit a wrecked economy."

- Tomsanqa Linda, former mayor of Ibhayi township, a municipality of over 400,000 black South Africans, interview with The New American, 1990.

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Post by Strangelove on Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:27 pm

"With our boxes of matches and our necklaces, we will liberate this country"

- Winnie Mandela, speech she gave in Munsieville on 13 April 1986, here she endorsed the practice of necklacing (burning people alive using tyres and petrol)

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Post by Strangelove on Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:08 am

"In addition to working for South Africa's diplomatic isolation, the USSR seeks to exploit internal discord in that country [as] the Soviets hope to gain greater influence in the area."

- US Department of Defense, 'Soviet Military Power', Washington: 1986, p. 133

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Post by Strangelove on Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:18 pm

“The CPSA should pay particular attention to the ANC. Our aim should be to transform the ANC into a fighting national revolutionary organisation against the white bourgeoisie and British imperialists.....”

- Sixth Congress of the Comintern, 1928. From the book 'Communists Against Apartheid' by Stephen Ellis and Tsepo Sechaba.


“The national liberation movement in South Africa owes its present scope and clarity of purpose to our party’s tireless activity in the organisation’s political and ideological structures.”

- 1982 edition of the Soviet journal, World Marxist Review.

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Re: Nelson Mandela, Communist Terrorist, Dies

Post by Strangelove on Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:25 pm

Co-operation between the ANC and the SACP goes back to the early 1920s… even within the ranks of the ANC there have been at one time or other, people – and some of them were highly respected and influential individuals – who were against this co-operation and who wanted SACP members expelled from the organisation.  Those who persisted in these activities were themselves expelled, or they broke away in despair.”

- Mandela, in an interview with the Cape-based journal, South, just before his release from prison.

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Re: Nelson Mandela, Communist Terrorist, Dies

Post by Strangelove on Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:46 pm

Just marking this blog article for later reading.

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Re: Nelson Mandela, Communist Terrorist, Dies

Post by On the Edge on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:46 pm

This too puts froth some interesting facts...I think it's already been covered pretty well, but I'll add this link to the mix anyway!

http://balder.org/judea/South-Africa-Terrorism-ANC-Revolution-Jewish-Involvement.php

This is a little more complicated...


http://blogs.forward.com/jj-goldberg/188864/memories-of-nelson-mandela-from-zionist-childhood


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Re: Nelson Mandela, Communist Terrorist, Dies

Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:02 pm

I'm interested in the CIA funding angle.

I read somewhere that Mandela was caught in his hideout due to a CIA tip off.

I'm wondering if the whole plan was for him to be caught, and held in prison for decades to be made a martyr for the anti-apartheid cause.

Wouldn't surprise me. He seemed like a useful idiot.

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Re: Nelson Mandela, Communist Terrorist, Dies

Post by Strangelove on Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:41 pm

CIA-South Africa connections:

International Development Foundation

Price Fund

African-American Institute

United States-South Africa Leadership Exchange Program (USSALEP)

AMAX

American Committee on Africa

American Society for African Culture

Pan Africanist Congress (PAC)

United States Agency for International Development (AID)

National Endowment for Democracy (NED)

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If you can make sense of this report from the International Journal of Intelligence and Counterintelligence then your a better researcher than me.

http://www.namebase.org/diamond.html

As far as I can tell....the CIA funded anti-communist alternatives to the ANC (like Buthelezi) up until they believed it was a lost cause, at which point they finally funded them in the hope they could control them. This was about 1990. Until then it seems they were primarily Soviet funded.

Very complicated business.

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Re: Nelson Mandela, Communist Terrorist, Dies

Post by On the Edge on Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:12 pm

Complicated is right! I knew there was more to it than the media was hyping it to be, as always. I just figured out enough to file it under the BAD category and leave it there.
Too many other things vying for my attention, I suppose.

Still, interesting how they go about all their business.

Just imagine if this kind of evil intent was turned around and used to do good! What a world it could have been!

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