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Post by zone on Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:29 pm

that is an excellent film (also on google as a single file).
again, for whatever reason, i've had to experience these things personally: long story short, talked with somone several years ago about the subject, he said "oh i have stuff a relative left me"...

out comes this leather pouch filled with stuff...including little books. in one were rules (with coded dialogues), and the other had their so-called history.

first sentence in that book said:

"We are the Amorites"....a look into who they were (are) took me down a 4 year rabbit hole.

creepy.
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Post by Adstar on Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:39 am

Where can i download a single version of this? Anyone got a link?


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Post by Strangelove on Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:32 am

Adstar wrote:Where can i download a single version of this? Anyone got a link?


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Code:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3923632392892449905#

You'll have to research about DL'ing video off google video....I've forgotten how to do it.

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Post by Adstar on Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:36 pm


great see other long videos there also. So maybe i will be downloading a few
more. I have known about masonry for a long time. It is another candidate for
the harlot to me. Or part of the harlot family.


I have had thoughts about the USA and masonry. I have the feeling that the USA
was created by the masons not as the world throne of the coming anti-christ but
as a sacrifice that will be burn’s to decieve the world into believing the
Harlot has been destroyed.

satan to pull of the great deception must have a spiritual harlot to burn and a
lot of people look upon the USA as the great satan or Babylon the great
already. So satan gets his followers to create the greatest nation on earth and
then inspires others to burn it along with satans american followers, satan is like that, destroying his followers
to deceive more.

I see islam as another of satans creations. Lets face it a lot of people would
look at islam as the beast and see the destruction of the arab world as fulfilment
of the destruction of the beast. Of course satan already has muslims deceived
so like the american masons they are chips to be cashed in for his greater
purpose.


Anyway these are my thoughts at the moment. We will see how things turn out in
the future.


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Post by Strangelove on Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:36 pm

“Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic Ritual and what is left?”

- Jewish Tribune of New York October 28th 1927.

“Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose: history; grades; official appointments; passwords; and explanations, are Jewish from beginning to end.”

- Isaac Mayer Wise. Well known Rabbi. 1927

“The meaning of the history of the last century is that today 300 Jewish financiers, all Masters of Lodges, rule the world.”

- Jean Izoulet. Member of the Jewish Alliance Israelite Universelle. 1931

<<< Horses mouth

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Re: Freemasonry

Post by zone on Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:19 pm

wow.
this is all just so sickening.

no wonder she gets the cup of wrath DOUBLED.
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Post by KingdomSeeker on Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:42 am

Here's some fun stuff.

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/layiktez1.html


ooo ooo and this:


T: OK, there’s another thing a was wondering. There’s the Constantinian Order, yeah?

L: Yeah.
T: Mmm.. The… Well, talk about the whole Muslim aspect to it. You were saying that there’s forty cardinals within the Vatican who have converted to Islam. Is that them just trying to infiltrate Islam, or is it Islam trying to infiltrate the Vatican? What’s going on there?

L: That is the Islam trying to infiltrate the Vatican, because the next move of the Jesuits and these Muslim leaders, especially the one of the Fethullah Gulen movement, is to replace Catholic religion with Islam, because Catholic religion doesn’t function anymore at certain levels for the control of these people, so they seem to use an alternative system, like they were doing with me, using Islam. It’s a system that seems to work very well, and at the same time the.. the prophecies… the hidden prophecies of the Muslim Illuminati say that after the fall of Rome, the Vatican will become Muslim.



http://leozagami.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/zagami-on-the-interweavings-of-islam-with-freemasonry-the-vatican-the-jesuits/



And then it brings me back to this:

http://www.joelstrumpet.com/?p=2395



"RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: La ilahe illa Allah (There is no god only Allah)."



SO...these Talmudic "jews"/kahzars, Originate from mongol and turkey, Follow Kabballah(comes from zorostrianism http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/rph/index.htm) and are really islamic...



Im beging to think that Islam is not JUST a patsy....

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Post by Strangelove on Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:39 am

Ya but what has zorostrianism got to do with Islam?

Islam is relatively new.

Zorostrianism is just a form of paganism. Yes the Hebrews in Babylon became apostate and went from the God of the Torah to Gnosticism, paganism and mysticism influenced by the surrounding systems....but I dont think you can say that they are really ISLAMIC.

They are apostate Hebrews.

The Jesuits want to replace Catholicism with Islam? Huh?

I would be careful with Leo Zagami.....he may be compromised and/or a disinfo agent.

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Post by KingdomSeeker on Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:51 am

He may be...He may very well be. However it just makes me think that ALL the people who are "Exposing lies" hapen to be muslim(or converted to)

And Zorostrianism is the basis for Kabbalah. and Zorostrianism WAS THE religion of Assyria/babylon for a time.

zorostrianism isnt EXACTLY paganism...

and yes actualy i shouldnt have said Islamic...BUT Allah has allot to do with it. Islam IS this new "light" shed on a very old belief system...

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Post by KingdomSeeker on Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:34 am

And it also just seems to me, that there are ALLOT of people that want to fight the illuminati, and destroy it. Umm...Muslims, "Non-zionis" Jews, Native americans, hindus...everyone is comming out of the wood work to kill this "Grand satan" .... i dont know...somethign is making me think, more and more that we really can never truly have a clue, untill that is IT ALL comes out into the open, and then there really comes down to two sides...Maybe im just a big floppy pessamist(floppy?) But more and more, it seems like the men behind the curtain, made the "illuminatti" in order for it to be found out and destroyed. they made the Religions the way they are, in order for them to dissolve. They created "Freemasonry" in order for it to be found out to be just a tool of the evils of the "jews" that have been running the world. Yet we know TRUE israel is not running the world...but we also know True israel will be the ones persecuted. So then...we know how it ends....Im just kinda speaking out loud here...well...typing...quietly...all stream of conciousness like...


So my point....well i think its my point from the begining....Prayer, we can only know truth from God right? JESUS is the truth. SO since Jesus is the truth, why arent we goign to Jesus, and constantly asking Jesus, no instead(myself included) continue to go to other sources, that are aLL controled by the God of this world... Anywhoo...

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Post by KingdomSeeker on Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:35 am

This started my rant btw
http://www.illuminati-news.com/000-spiritual/html/index.html

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Post by Strangelove on Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:13 am

KingdomSeeker wrote:And it also just seems to me, that there are ALLOT of people that want to fight the illuminati, and destroy it. Umm...Muslims, "Non-zionis" Jews, Native americans, hindus...everyone is comming out of the wood work to kill this "Grand satan" .... i dont know...somethign is making me think, more and more that we really can never truly have a clue, untill that is IT ALL comes out into the open, and then there really comes down to two sides...Maybe im just a big floppy pessamist(floppy?) But more and more, it seems like the men behind the curtain, made the "illuminatti" in order for it to be found out and destroyed. they made the Religions the way they are, in order for them to dissolve. They created "Freemasonry" in order for it to be found out to be just a tool of the evils of the "jews" that have been running the world. Yet we know TRUE israel is not running the world...but we also know True israel will be the ones persecuted. So then...we know how it ends....Im just kinda speaking out loud here...well...typing...quietly...all stream of conciousness like...
Thing is Rob...who are the men behind the curtain who are running the show? Yeah there is a lot of publicity about the 'illuminati' these days and I have no doubt that now they are a red herring. Freemasonry is also a very effective tool ised by the controllers. You say freemasonry is being set up to be shot down and blamed on 'the Jews' but thing is...how many people out there KNOW that freemasonry is an apostate Jewish creation?? NO-ONE!

The Mother stays well, well hidden my friend.

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So my point....well i think its my point from the begining....Prayer, we can only know truth from God right? JESUS is the truth. SO since Jesus is the truth, why arent we goign to Jesus, and constantly asking Jesus, no instead(myself included) continue to go to other sources, that are aLL controled by the God of this world... Anywhoo...
K Rob...you ask Jesus about it and tell us all what He says so we can know the truth. Until then I'll keep investigating from every source at my disposal and pray to God for the faculties that allow me to discern.

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Post by Strangelove on Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:31 am

KingdomSeeker wrote:However it just makes me think that ALL the people who are "Exposing lies" hapen to be muslim(or converted to)
I havn't noticed that trend personally...?...?

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And Zorostrianism is the basis for Kabbalah. and Zorostrianism WAS THE religion of Assyria/babylon for a time.
Yeah I got no problem with that idea although I've not studied the connection in much depth. Might give that online book you linked a go. Looks good.

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and yes actualy i shouldnt have said Islamic...BUT Allah has allot to do with it. Islam IS this new "light" shed on a very old belief system...
Meh...just another false religion.

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Re: Freemasonry

Post by Adstar on Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:05 pm

There is the Beast.

There is the Harlot of Babylon.

For the great deceiver to convince the world that he is the Messiah a False
beast must destroy a False harlot. Then the Son of perdition must destroy the
false Beast. The Son of perdition must be seen as doing what prophecy
says the Messiah will do.

So we can see how masonry/illuminate can be seen as a harlot and islam can be
seen as a Beast. it could even be that islam could be viewed as a harlot and
masonry/illuminate can be seen as the Beast.

It seems logical that the deceivers followers would over history build their
own strawmen ready to burn and not even know they where dong it. What irony,
the servants last act for their master will be to serve their master as one of
his final sacrifices needed to deceive the world.


We live in very interesting times.


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Post by Strangelove on Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:06 pm

Adstar wrote:There is the Beast.

There is the Harlot of Babylon.

For the great deceiver to convince the world that he is the Messiah a False
beast must destroy a False harlot. Then the Son of perdition must destroy the
false Beast. The Son of perdition must be seen as doing what prophecy
says the Messiah will do.

So we can see how masonry/illuminate can be seen as a harlot and islam can be
seen as a Beast. it could even be that islam could be viewed as a harlot and
masonry/illuminate can be seen as the Beast.

It seems logical that the deceivers followers would over history build their
own strawmen ready to burn and not even know they where dong it. What irony,
the servants last act for their master will be to serve their master as one of
his final sacrifices needed to deceive the world.


We live in very interesting times.


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Indeed Ad. It's a great big chess match.

I'm just concerned for the Christians who dont understand that there are gonna be so many levels to the deception in the last times. Bluff and double bluff ahoy. We need to be on our toes.


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Post by KingdomSeeker on Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:37 pm

how many people out there KNOW that freemasonry is an apostate Jewish creation?? NO-ONE!

How many?

These people : http://secretjews.wordpress.com/2005/03/29/jewish-founders-of-modern-turkey/

http://geofftop.com/DISCUSSION.php?ID=18

http://www.pgorg.com/freemasons.html

http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2010/11/jewish-satanic-origins-of-freemasonry.html

http://irish-nationalism.net/showthread.php/3418-Freemasonry-Judaism-for-Gentiles

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1156207/pg1

http://www.savethemales.ca/000612.html

==ADMIN EDIT== (Had to delete that link sorry Rob)

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=19532

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Kabbalah/jewish_cabala.htm

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2006%20Opinion%20Editorials/June/9%20o/Current%20Issues%20TV%20Discusses%20the%20Protocols%20and%20Freemasonry.htm

http://www.overlordsofchaos.com/html/illuminati_conspiracy__the_pro4.html


http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/08aug/israelisecrets.html

Its a VERY VERY popular idea right now. its ALL over the place, and mostly propagated by NON "spirit filled Followers of Jesus" and i could continue. People are saying exactly what you are saying in forums all over the internet...

I leave you with this. This is not truth, nor is it anything near what i beleive(im sure you know that, but just incase...anyone else comes and reads this stuff)

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Why-Believe-in-Allah/the-curse-of-babylon-removed..htm

Its just...we truly have no idea. And i WILL pray, thats actually what God has been telling me to do from the start...and instead i searched for mans knowledge.

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Post by KingdomSeeker on Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:48 pm

Im also NOT saying that Islam is going to be the one world religion. it wont...But it will unify in order to bring the ONE world religion...which will be what Talmudic Judaism is based OFF of...which is BABYLON/Egypt/SUMMER Angel/sex worship...Man and God as one worship, Secret knowledge worship "light" worship...But its not, as we see it...its not...this is only the begining...


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Post by Strangelove on Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:18 pm

KingdomSeeker wrote:How many?

These people :

Lolz...Rob I'm talking about your average person and especially Christian. Of course there are SOME that know about the Jewish-Freemasonic link but generally people have no idea. You talk about this stuff, and intel like Noahide Laws, on Christian forums and folks are simply incredulous cum uninterested.

KingdomSeeker wrote:
Its a VERY VERY popular idea right now. its ALL over the place, and mostly propagated by NON "spirit filled Followers of Jesus" and i could continue. People are saying exactly what you are saying in forums all over the internet...

Dunno quite what your implying by that mate but...can you point me in the direction of Christian forums where they are discussing these topics in depth...I'm desperate to talk to some like minded brethren.

KingdomSeeker wrote:
I leave you with this. This is not truth, nor is it anything near what i beleive(im sure you know that, but just incase...anyone else comes and reads this stuff)

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Why-Believe-in-Allah/the-curse-of-babylon-removed..htm

Its just...we truly have no idea. And i WILL pray, thats actually what God has been telling me to do from the start...and instead i searched for mans knowledge.

Like I said...let us know what God tells you so we can rest from the constant investigations to garner truth from our various sources. Neutral

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Post by zone on Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:24 pm

Leo zagami wazziz face can be found in the secret thread The Cauldron
agent (same as icke et al)
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Post by KingdomSeeker on Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:34 am

That almost IS my point Zone, Leo is the one that ousted Adnan oktar/Haran yahya. If it wasnt for Leo, we wouldnt have known that harun was a secret ottoman freemason.

So IS he? is Leo Credible and that account? Maybe Adnan oktar is not a ottoman turk mason. (he's still sufi...so i guess thats just as bad) But thats the whole point...We have liars calling liars, liars, posting it on line. and then more liars come up and calling other liars, liars.

Is leo credible on any account? is harun? Harun is one of the reasons why mostof the "Athiest Freemasonry" info is out there.

yet according to an exx "illuminatti 33 degree freemason"(leo), Harun is also a free mason. So we have to people who expose other people that could well be lying.


How is findign all this stuff out, bringing anyone closer to Jesus?

People with out Jesus are posting the same stuff. they know they same things you do, yet They DONT have Jesus... DO you see what im saying...You have Jesus, Why do we need anything else but?




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Post by Strangelove on Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:43 am

KingdomSeeker wrote:How is findign all this stuff out, bringing anyone closer to Jesus?

People with out Jesus are posting the same stuff. they know they same things you do, yet They DONT have Jesus... DO you see what im saying...You have Jesus, Why do we need anything else but?
Rob...are you a freemason? farao

Is that why you desperately want us to stop talking about this stuff? Or is this your new calling from God?

People who dont have Jesus are also talking about chocolate covered waffles and tennis shoes...does that mean us believers cant talk about that stuff too?

Please stop with the haughtiness Rob...it really doesnt suit you. Don't start threads on New byzantium and weird cube fixations ets...and then turn round to us and say that we're wasting our time keepin' and eye on the freemasons.

We're stayig alert to possible deception mate. If your not interested then stick to threads about stuff you DO wanna talk about.

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Post by zone on Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:03 pm

KingdomSeeker wrote:That almost IS my point Zone, Leo is the one that ousted Adnan oktar/Haran yahya. If it wasnt for Leo, we wouldnt have known that harun was a secret ottoman freemason.

So IS he? is Leo Credible and that account? Maybe Adnan oktar is not a ottoman turk mason. (he's still sufi...so i guess thats just as bad) But thats the whole point...We have liars calling liars, liars, posting it on line. and then more liars come up and calling other liars, liars.

Is leo credible on any account? is harun? Harun is one of the reasons why mostof the "Athiest Freemasonry" info is out there.

yet according to an exx "illuminatti 33 degree freemason"(leo), Harun is also a free mason. So we have to people who expose other people that could well be lying.


How is findign all this stuff out, bringing anyone closer to Jesus?

People with out Jesus are posting the same stuff. they know they same things you do, yet They DONT have Jesus... DO you see what im saying...You have Jesus, Why do we need anything else but?


one reason i do this, Rob is because, as you have seen on forums and even in perhaps your family or church that christians can't seem to even agree on the essentials of the faith, let alone what's happening in the world, and how it is NOT the fulfillment of prophecies in the way they have been told.

so how can the lost know anything? i've discovered that not only am i edified and blessed by the confirmation i get when looking at what goes on on the ground (i am well aware that God controls all - that's why i'm edified); but also i have been able to witness to the Authority and Faithfulness of Scripture by explaining principles and prophecies to people who are involved in or close to these groups, or know of them.

example: my mom (who unfortunately thinks she'll be with Jesus because she's a good person) had an uncle in masonry. for whatever reason she was close to him as a kid and since he's one of her few living relatives she talks to him frequently.

many times i've told her what masonry is, etc and she has refused to listen (or can't hear). but my sister and i gave her bible and pleaded with her to read it. she did a little. one day, out of the blue, she called me up and asked "who built Solomon's Temple"?

i asked: what did you find?

answer: "The Masons".

since then the door has been open a little for dialogue (though the social conditioning has taken hold deeply and she can only focus for a few minutes at a time).

with my love for history, i've also been able to use history to point out the perfection of Biblical prophecies etc.

anyways. you get the idea.

i began studying masonry after i read about THE BUILDERS in Scripture: who were they, what does the term mean, and what do they say about themselves?

since they are so pervasive and so involved in events, i wanted to know what their role was. and now i know. i know they have thoroughly infiltrated the church and where-ever they go, gnostic and mystical traditions take root, and zionism thrives....that discovery had helped my research in areas of how false doctrines and systems impact christians (CUFI etc).

THE ULTIMATE DISCOVERY WAS THE NOACHITE LAWS (masonic name for it).

studying the link between masonry and the pharisees (and rome) led me to the Noahide Laws.

just a piece of the puzzle. i don't get into the fine details of what they do in the dark (its a disgrace to even mention those things, though i know what they do).

neither do i attempt to analyze their internal power structure - who cares? what matters is their overall power and plan.

as for my relationship with Christ, this is what He called me to do 8 years ago, and i'll keep doing it.
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Post by KingdomSeeker on Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:46 pm

All im saying, is God led us to knowledge.

Now we know.

Dont let Knowledge be your God.


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Post by Strangelove on Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:34 pm

KingdomSeeker wrote:All im saying, is God led us to knowledge.

Now we know.

Dont let Knowledge be your God.



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Post by Strangelove on Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:27 pm

Was Nimrod and his followers the first freemasons?

(Genesis 11:4) And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.


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Post by Strangelove on Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:12 pm

After examining the Key, he proceeds to read, by the aid of it, the characters on the four sides of the Ark.

High Priest (reading first side.)--Deposited in the year three thousand. Second side--By Solomon, King of Israel. Third side--Hiram, King of Tyre, and Hiram Abiff. Fourth side--For the good of Masonry, generally, but the Jewish nation in particular.

- Royal Arch, 7th Degree York Rite Freemasons pledge

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Post by Strangelove on Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:26 pm

"Noachidae, Noachites. The descendents of Noah. A term applied to Freemasons. Noah having alone preserved the true name and worship of God, amid a race of impious idolaters. Freemasons claim to be his descendents, because they still preserve that pure religion which distinguished this second father of the human race from the rest of the world. And even when his descendents began again, in the plains of Shinar, to forget the Almighty, and to wander from the path of purity, the principles of Noah were still perpetuated by that portion of his race whom the Freemasons of the present day regard as their early predecessors. Hence, Freemasons call themselves Noachidae, or the sons of Noah." (Mackey, Lexicon of Freemasonry, page 324, 2004, Barnes and Noble Publishing, Inc.)

- Mackey, Lexicon of Freemasonry, page 324, 2004, Barnes and Noble Publishing, Inc.

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Post by Strangelove on Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:29 pm

"Noah, Precepts of. The precepts of the patriarch Noah, which were preserved as the constitutions of our ancient brethren, are seven in number, and are as follows: 1. Renounce all idols 2. Worship the only true God. 3. Commit no murder. 4. Be not defiled by incest. 5. Do not steal. 6. Be just. 7. Eat no flesh with blood in it. The 'proselytes of the gate', as the Jews termed those who lived among them without undergoing circumcision, or observing the ceremonial law, were bound to obey the seven precepts of Noah."

- Mackey, Lexicon of Freemasonry, page 325, 2004, Barnes and Noble Publishing, Inc

"NOAHCHIDAE: The descendants of Noah, and the transmitters of his religious dogmas, which were the unity of God and the immortality of the soul. The name has from the earliest times been bestowed upon the Freemasons, who teach the same doctrines. Thus in the 'old charges,' as quoted by Anderson (Const. edit. 1738, p. 143), it is said, 'A mason is obliged by his tenure to observe the moral law as a true Noachidae."

- The Symbolism of Freemasonry, Mackey

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Post by Strangelove on Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:34 pm

"Take from Freemasonry its dependence upon the temple, leave out of its ritual all reference to that sacred edifice, and to the legends connected with it, and the system itself must at once decay and die"

- Albert Mackey, The Symbolism of Freemasonry

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