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Judaism - Page 2 Empty Judaism: Rambam On Sacrifices: Integration and Harmony

Post by zone Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:08 pm

Judaism: Rambam On Sacrifices: Integration and Harmony


Sacrifices crystalize the conflict between Rambam the Halakhist and Maimonides the philosopher. Rambam makes clear in Mishneh Torah that after the restoration of the Davidic dynasty, all the ancient laws will be reinstituted . Sacrifices will again be offered, the Sabbatical and Jubilee years will again be observed. Torah law is eternal and true. It matters not whether specific mitzvot are now in the realm of the theoretical or the practical. They are equally binding and sanctified.

Halakha reigns.

Yet Maimonides of the Guide seems to regard the sacrifices as only of secondary importance in the scheme of Judaism; perhaps a concession to a newly-developing nation which could not “suddenly discontinue everything to which it has been accustomed.” He suggested sacrifice as a gradually weaning away from ancient practices such as idolatry.

The Ramban rebelled against such an understanding. To God, sacrifices are, “My offering, my bread for my fire offerings for a pleasing odor unto Me.” Absolute. Not temporal. Indeed, Ramban’s refutation finds allegiance in Rambam’s own words when he assures us that halachically during Messianic days “sacri fices will again be offered.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11437#.T3XLcWEge70

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Post by zone Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:12 pm

"halachically during Messianic days “sacrifices will again be offered.”

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Exodus 7:11
Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts:

1 Kings 18:38
Then the fire of the LORD fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.

Matthew 24:24
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.

Revelation 13:13
And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men.

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Post by zone Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:58 pm

Who are we to decide how G-d brings salvation?

The dramatic transition from despair to salvation, in this Shabbat’s Haftarah, is tremendously rapid; on one day there is a siege on the city of Samaria (Shomron), there was horrific hunger and the price of food unbearable to the extent that women are described as eating their own children.

On the next day, there was plenty, and the price of food was cheaper than ever. This is the miracle story of the siege Aram put on the capital of the kingdom of Israel.

In the night between these two days, “Hashem had made the host of the Arameans hear a noise of chariots, and a noise of horses; the noise of a great host”(Kings 2:7-6). The army of the enemy fled and the city of Samaria was saved.

As the story unfolds, we find two very relevant messages in this Haftarah to our day and age, and especially to the week in which we celebrate Independence Day.

At the peak of the hunger and suffering, Elisha prophesized, that within a day they will all be redeemed. The captain, who was second to the king, responded by saying skeptically, 'Behold, if Hashem should make windows in heaven, might this thing be?'.

To which Elisha replied ‘Behold, you shall see it with your eyes, but shall not eat from it (ibid 2:2). Indeed, when the salvation came, he was trampled to death as the people ran to the food.

The role of a prophet is to see the Heavenly perspective. The role of a king and his ministers is to see the practical perspective.

What was this captain’s sin? It is evident that he believed in Hashem, for he admits that Hashem makes the‘windows in heaven’. Why then was he reluctant to believe in the miracle Elisha prophesized about and for what reason was he punished?

The Sefer Chasidim, based on the Midrash, explains that his sin was that he did not believe in the people. He did not believe AmYisrael was worthy of being redeemed. He figured that if they were sinful, then Hashem would not redeem them.

The leaders of our nation, in order to be worthy of their position, must recognize the greatness of the nation. They must, and so should we, recognize that the love that Hashem has for His people is independent of the way we behave....

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Similar to the captain and to the people above, there are many people today, very religious and very secular alike, who see what is happening in Israel, and see the makeup of the state, and say to themselves that this could not be the hand of Hashem; some from their lack of faith in Hashem, and others due to their lack of faith in the people.

There are those who genuinely believe that Hashem would not bring the salvation through the secular Zionists. To all, we proudly say, today, Hashem’s thoughts and ways are unlike ours. Let us not decide for Him how to redeem the people, but rather let us rejoice in what we can see with our very own eyes

‘Hark, you watchmen! they lift up their voice, together do they sing; for they shall see, eye to eye, Hashem returning to Zion’ (ibid52:8).

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11549

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John 18:36
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”
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Post by zone Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:38 pm

Gentiles at the Gates
The Internet Changed Everything in the Hasidic World

http://forward.com/articles/164869/gentiles-at-the-gates/?p=1

from the jewish daily forward online.

this is an astonishing article, an absolute must-read (5 pages).

i get so ticked off at the stuff i see....then something like this comes along and my heart just melts with compassion, in spite of it all. but, what can be done?

i'd be interested to hear any comments.
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Post by unclefester Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:10 am

zone wrote:Gentiles at the Gates
The Internet Changed Everything in the Hasidic World

http://forward.com/articles/164869/gentiles-at-the-gates/?p=1

from the jewish daily forward online.

this is an astonishing article, an absolute must-read (5 pages).

i get so ticked off at the stuff i see....then something like this comes along and my heart just melts with compassion, in spite of it all. but, what can be done?

i'd be interested to hear any comments.

An OUTSTANDING read ! The baring of a soul .... so simple and honest .... and yet the perplexities expressed remaining immensely complex. I was captivated from start to finish. As Leonard Cohen expresses in his song Anthem (I believe)..... "There is a crack .... a crack in everything. That's how the Light gets in .... that's how the Light gets in." I'm not certain that he himself was or even is yet aware of the words he was singing. In any event, I see their plight and struggle not unlike that of any other group or sect of people needing to come to terms with the truth. And wherever truth can be found, so can our Father God be found also (in Jesus Christ). Sure tugs at the heartstrings though, doesn't it ? I found this segment pleasantly humourous .... but even moreso, very telling of the trojan horse now within their gates (never to leave) ... "And in a show of unity last May, tens of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews attended a gathering at Citi Field stadium in Queens to heed the rabbis’ calls (internet ban) as they emailed, texted, Tweeted and browsed from the stadium seats above." .... lol How true ... and expected .... lol I spose more than anything else Zone, this article rekindled the reality that the Jews are as equally deserving of our prayers and compassion as is anybody else. We here already know that there is neither Jew nor gentile in the eye's of God today. A painful lesson yet for many or most of them to still learn .... but learn it they must. As the writer expressed ..... there is a crack ...Smile Think I'll give that piece another read. Loved it !
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Post by zone Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:59 pm

unclefester wrote:

An OUTSTANDING read ! The baring of a soul .... so simple and honest .... and yet the perplexities expressed remaining immensely complex. I was captivated from start to finish. As Leonard Cohen expresses in his song Anthem (I believe)..... "There is a crack .... a crack in everything. That's how the Light gets in .... that's how the Light gets in." I'm not certain that he himself was or even is yet aware of the words he was singing. In any event, I see their plight and struggle not unlike that of any other group or sect of people needing to come to terms with the truth. And wherever truth can be found, so can our Father God be found also (in Jesus Christ). Sure tugs at the heartstrings though, doesn't it ? I found this segment pleasantly humourous .... but even moreso, very telling of the trojan horse now within their gates (never to leave) ... "And in a show of unity last May, tens of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews attended a gathering at Citi Field stadium in Queens to heed the rabbis’ calls (internet ban) as they emailed, texted, Tweeted and browsed from the stadium seats above." .... lol How true ... and expected .... lol I spose more than anything else Zone, this article rekindled the reality that the Jews are as equally deserving of our prayers and compassion as is anybody else. We here already know that there is neither Jew nor gentile in the eye's of God today. A painful lesson yet for many or most of them to still learn .... but learn it they must. As the writer expressed ..... there is a crack ...Smile Think I'll give that piece another read. Loved it !

excellent review Fes.
well said.

yes, though it doesn't weaken my resolve to keep kicking at the lies, it's so painfully heartrending to see such despotic control.

if it were simply a matter of a community trying to stay separate from the world that's one thing: but that's not ultimately what happens.

there's that toxic mix of hating the gentiles (world), yet having a religion that calls for domination and extermination of us.

it's an impossible combination.

but surely this piece is one-of-a-kind in all ways.
i'll be saving it, for sure.

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Post by strangelove Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:16 pm

zone wrote:Gentiles at the Gates
The Internet Changed Everything in the Hasidic World

http://forward.com/articles/164869/gentiles-at-the-gates/?p=1

from the jewish daily forward online.

this is an astonishing article, an absolute must-read (5 pages).

i get so ticked off at the stuff i see....then something like this comes along and my heart just melts with compassion, in spite of it all. but, what can be done?

i'd be interested to hear any comments.

Insanity. A religion that fears truth, knowledge and independence and free thought?

I mean, is this quote for realz?

"Many are leaving the community because of this. They walk away when they
discover, not porn, but that their minds are theirs to control. This
foreign concept is plaguing the community
and devastating it from
within."


This writer is so Talmud-Whipped it's not even funny.
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Post by zone Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:09 pm

Hi Doc. I saw it as irony.
I thought she was revealing the truth of the insanity, but using irony.
Almost parabolic.

If she is Talmud-whipped, she's like Caiaphas who prophesied without knowing the truth!! lol!
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Post by strangelove Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:12 am

zone wrote:Hi Doc. I saw it as irony.
I thought she was revealing the truth of the insanity, but using irony.
Almost parabolic.

If she is Talmud-whipped, she's like Caiaphas who prophesied without knowing the truth!! lol!

Ya think?
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Judaism - Page 2 Empty Chassidic Community Shocked: ‘Sabbath Gentile’ a Jew

Post by zone Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:12 pm

Chassidic Community Shocked: ‘Sabbath Gentile’ a Jew

The Seret-Vizhnitz community in Haifa was appalled to find that its long-term “Sabbath gentile” is actually a Jew.

By Maayana Miskin
First Publish: 10/19/2012, 12:44 PM

The Seret-Vizhnitz Chassidic community in Haifa was shocked to discover this week that the man who for years had served as the local “Sabbath gentile” was in fact Jewish.

The Ladaat website, which revealed the story, reported that the man in question is of Romanian origin and himself believed that he and his entire family were Christian.

He worked for one of the Chassidic community’s institutions, and helped many people by performing activities prohibited to Jews on the Sabbath. A “Sabbath gentile” may assist in certain types of prohibited Sabbath labor.

Questions were first raised about the man’s background when he mentioned that his mother lit candles on Friday night. At the time, a local Vizhnitz man said, members of the community thought the family was showing knowledge of Jewish customs in order to prove eligibility for Israeli citizenship.

However, chassidim later heard the man singing Jewish songs. When asked what he was singing, he explained that those were songs he had heard as a child.

His employers sent him to a leading posek (Jewish legal scholar) in the city. After a brief investigation into the man’s background, the decision came back: the man is definitely Jewish.

A sign has been hung in the community’s main synagogue warning that the worker is Jewish and must not be asked to do any prohibited labor on the Sabbath.

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Post by zone Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:45 pm

Judaism: Harnessing Esau's Active Force

Published: Friday, November 16, 2012 10:52 AM
Religious Zionist iconic sage for whom Merkaz Harav Yeshiva is named, on the use of military strength in Israel.

HaRav Avraham Yitzchak HaCohen Kook zts"l
First Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Israel, revered and famed Torah sage, philosopher, writer, poet, iconic and beloved leader of religious Zionism and the return to Zion (1865-1935).

We know little about the birth of most Biblical personalities. Yet, the Torah describes in detail the birth of Jacob and Esau and their respective naming.

"The first one came out reddish, hairy all over like a fur coat. They named him Esau. His brother then came out, his hand grasping Esau's heel. He named him Jacob." (Gen. 25:25-26)

The name Esau means 'made' or 'completed'. From day one, Esau was full of strength and energy. The name Jacob (Ya'akov) refers to the fact that he was holding on to Esau's heel (ekev). Later on, Jacob is named a second time; here too, his name refers to his relationship with his brother Esau. The night before meeting up with Esau, he struggles with a mysterious stranger. This stranger - according to some, Esau's guardian angel - informs him:

"Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel. You have struggled with angels and men, and you have prevailed" (Gen. 32:29).

What is the inner meaning of Jacob's names? What is the significance of his grasping on to Esau's heel? Why does he have two names?

Restraint versus Control

Just as there are both positive and negative forces in the world, so too, every person is a composite of positive and negative traits. We need these negative forces, however; without their power and vitality, many goals and aspirations would lack the energy necessary to be realized.

Esau represents the raw, base forces in the world. His reddish complexion indicated the violent and brutal nature of his personality. Jacob did not prevent Esau from coming into the world; after all, the world needs Esau and his raw power. Rather, Jacob held on to Esau's heel, holding him back. The name Jacob refers to this aspect of restraint, reining in the fierce forces.

Ultimately, however, our goal is not to simply hold back these negative forces. We aspire to gain control over them and utilize them, like a hydroelectric dam that harnesses the vast energy of a raging waterfall for the production of electricity. For example, the Talmud tells us that a person with blood-thirsty tendencies should become a shochet (ritual slaughterer) or a mohel, thus sublimating his violent nature for noble purposes.

This higher aspiration is represented by Jacob's second name, Israel, which comes from the root-word sar, meaning 'to rule.'

The name Jacob is appropriate when the Jews are in the Diaspora. There, they serve as a moral conscience to partially restrict the wild and violent forces in the world.

But when redeemed and living in their own land, the Jewish people are able to attain the higher level of Israel.

Then they have the opportunity to demonstrate how a nation may utilize its material capabilities for constructive and ethical goals.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12450#.UKZfhoc7152

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Judaism - Page 2 Empty In Plain Language: Who wants Moshiach?

Post by zone Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:47 pm

In Plain Language: Who wants Moshiach?
06/07/2012 13:10 By STEWART WEISS
There is an age old battle of whether or not this miracle will actually happen, and what exactly it will look like.

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He is mentioned hundreds of thousands of times each day, all over the world, yet no one actually knows his name or very much about him. What he looks like, when he will arrive or where he will come from is a mystery, debated and deliberated for centuries. He is not referred to directly in any of the scriptural books – at least not by Jewish reckoning – and the oblique allusions to him in the prophecies of Balaam, Isaiah and Daniel, among others, are exceedingly difficult to decipher. Yet despite his ephemeral and elusive character, he remains one of Judaism’s most powerful personalities: the Moshiach.

The most authoritative source we have concerning the Moshiach comes from Maimonides, the great rabbinic codifier born in 1135 in Cordoba, Spain. In his commentary on the 10th chapter of the talmudic tractate Sanhedrin, he lists his 13 fundamental principles of Jewish faith. The 12th of those principles states as follows: “I believe, with a perfect faith, in the coming of the Messiah. And although he may delay, I will nevertheless wait for him, with each day that comes.”

The concept of a heroic savior, a liberator, a Moshiach – like the other fundamentals of belief, in God, Moses, the prophets and the Torah – was meant to be a unifying force in Jewish life, something we could all agree upon, aspire to and pray for. Yet tragically, this, too, has become a major bone of contention, engendering countless arguments and antagonism among various segments of our people. The rhetoric and rancor is particularly intense as it relates to the State of Israel.

In the national religious camp, the Moshiach – if he is a single figure at all – is seen as the culmination of a process, a “Messianic Age” that begins with Jewish independence and sovereignty......

....There is a big difference between dreaming of Moshiach’s coming to liberate us, and actively participating in our own liberation. There is nothing wrong in believing in miracles; indeed, for those of us living in Israel, we are surrounded by them every day. But waiting for a Moshiach to ride in on a white donkey, it seems to me, is a lot less convenient than boarding a blue and white jet with the Star of David and landing smoothly in that long-awaited field of dreams.....

http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Opinion/Article.aspx?id=273046

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Post by zone Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:53 pm

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

Matthew 21:5
“Say to the daughter of Zion, ‘Behold, your king is coming to you, humble, and mounted on a donkey, and on a colt, the foal of a beast of burden.’”

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Post by zone Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:52 am

THE CHOSENITES-STOP EVERYTHING AND WATCH THIS HORRID EXPOSE
SATURDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2012 AT 12:46AM GILAD ATZMON
By Gilad Atzmon

The following video is a hard-hitting attempt to expose the link between Israeli barbarism and Jewish cultural and religious teaching. As we all know our Jewish ‘anti’ Zionists (JVP, IJAN, Mondoweiss etc’) insist that Zionism should be regarded as an anomaly within the wide context of Jewish culture and religion. They are clearly spinning - Israel is the Jewish State, it kills and slaughter in the name of the Jews, its airplanes and tanks are decorated with Jewish symbols, its crimes are, unfortunately, consistent with some bloodthirsty Old Testament and Talmudic verses. As I mention before, some Orthodox Jews interpret those vile verses differently. However, Israel clearly transforms Deuteronomy into a murderous practical reality.

This film points at the deeply non-ethical core that is embedded within cultural, secular and nationalist Jewish discourse. This is a very disturbing film but I believe that it is essential to watch and discuss these matters in an open manner. More than anyone else, Jews should watch these images and self-reflect. Zionism is clearly a problem, but it isn’t ‘the problem'

As I pointed out in my latest book, The Wandering Who, time is ripe for us to address issues to do with Jewish culture and its influence within the West. Time is ripe to speak about Jewishness and Jewish secularism. Time is ripe to expose the matrix of Jewish power and lobbying within politics and media. When you watch this sickening images bear in mind that 80% of the British Tory MPs are members of the Conservative Friends of Israel. Try to ask yourself what is it that they love so much about the Jewish State?

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/the-chosenites-stop-everything-and-watch-this-horrid-expose.html

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this will leave NO DOUBT in anyone's mind we are dealing with PSYCHOTIC SADISTS
Talmudic passages are added showing each shocking event before it happens.
people on the street interviewed, expressing their contempt for gentiles.
rabbis are interviewed saying murder, theft, and total destruction OF GENTILES are LAW

WARNING - VERY DISTURBING IMAGES, INCLUDING BLASPHEMIES AGAINST JESUS - BE WARNED - NOT FOR THE WEAK

on Youtube it says 'controversial content - do you wish to proceed'
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Post by On the Edge Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:00 am

Of course I wish to proceed!
I wouldn't be here if I hadn't dared to proceed! Laughing

Sounds interesting, Zone!

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Post by louthesaint Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:43 am

I would like to post that video to some of the Christian-Zionist pastors that I Know. However; It would be an utter waist of time, for the Zionist stronghold is well established, thoroughly imbedded within the recesses of their minds.. Truly, there is a greater love in their heart for the Jew than for the brethren.. How many times Have I heard these hypocrites say "pray for the peace of Jerusalem and Nuke Gaza" It matters not to them that there are Christians in Palestine. Really what hypocrites, I'll say it again.. "What Hypocrites"

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Post by zone Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:21 pm

louthesaint wrote:I would like to post that video to some of the Christian-Zionist pastors that I Know. However; It would be an utter waist of time, for the Zionist stronghold is well established, thoroughly imbedded within the recesses of their minds.. Truly, there is a greater love in their heart for the Jew than for the brethren.. How many times Have I heard these hypocrites say "pray for the peace of Jerusalem and Nuke Gaza" It matters not to them that there are Christians in Palestine. Really what hypocrites, I'll say it again.. "What Hypocrites"

Blessings

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and i say, again i say, good for you, Lou.
carry on soldier. do it.

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these folks do.
they picket christian zionist churches trying to show dispensationalism for the heresy and KILLER that it is.
and they are persecuted over and over.
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Post by zone Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:54 pm



this is one of the most bizarre things I've heard - because it's jews publically discussing and facing up to evils in their history....brushing up to the truth but missing it due to believing the Talmud is the foundation of truth.

encouraging on the one hand and tragic on the other.
refreshing in one sense not to have the shrill denials and such.
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