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Post by northwye on Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:58 pm

Repetition of false doctrine by a follower of dispensationalism does not prove that false doctrine is true. But repetition of the truth from Scripture doesn't convince those who do not have ears to hear or eyes to see.

Debate with a dispensationalist will just lead you into the dialectic with him or her. Scripture is taught in a didactic way, not with the dialectic. What is the dialectic? Ask Karl Marx. One cue is that he said to call any absolute truth or absolute moral an opinion.

The dialectic came in part out of the group dynamics movement led by psychologist Kurt Lewin in the fifties. It was used in the sixties and seventies by a number of psychologists and psychotherapists as an attitude change procedure
in encounter groups. In small groups under the dialectic the leader as a facilitator first increases the cohesiveness of the group so that members derive pleasure from group acceptance, and then group acceptance is used as a reward to entice members to obey the facilitator. But the dialectic goes back to Genesis 3 when Satan as the "facilitator" used the dialectic on Eve to lure her away from God's absolutes into compromise and a questioning of God.

If you are interested in what the dialectic is, go to:

And/or listen to Dean Gotcher at:

He is on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays at ten to
ten thirty Pacific Standard Time
Gotcher often talks about scripture and these guys:

Abraham Maslow
Carl Rogers
Irvin Yalom
Theodor Adorno
Erick Fromm
Norman O. Brown
Herbart Marcuse

Except for Herbert Marcuse, these guys are psychologists, and Irvin Yalom is an existentialist psychiatrist. I think Norman O. Brown was also a psychiatrist. Theodore W. Adorno posed as a social psychologist, but was an important propagandist and cultural critic, as well as having an influence on art of the 20th century. Adorno wrote in his influential book, The Authoritarian Personality, that Christianity and the family cause fascism and both must be gotten rid of. Most of these people were also cultural Marxists, and they all promoted the dialectic. And almost all of them became respected and influential professors in American universities, especially back in the fifties. Carl R. Rogers was one of my professors at Wisconsin when I was a graduate student there. Rogers was a clinical psychologist who used a form of the dialectic as an attitude change procedure in encounter groups. I wasn't a clinical major, but was in experimental shrinkology.


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Post by Strangelove on Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:13 am

Yup. No argument from me on that info bud.

The dialectic is everywhere and deceived folks use it even when they dont realise they are doing it.

RCC is a biggie as it was used to wage warfare in the name of Christ for so long. Getting lumped in with that crew is a daily occurence for me on the forums.

The only way to fight the dialectic is to expose it I guess.

Like the way your brain works northwye.

"Gentlemen you cant fight in here, this is the War Room!"


Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

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