Rothschilds and the Grail Bloodline

by zone Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:38 pm

Rothschild Dynasty - Synagogue of Satan? - Page 2 JRothschild

- by David Livingstone ©, Aug. 22nd, 2005

Rothschilds and the Grail Bloodline

Jacob Rothschild, the current head of the Rothschild dynasty, has intermarried with the Sinclair family, forging an important alliance between the head family of the Illuminati, and the supposed descendants of the Grail family.

As has been popularized recently by Dan Brown in the Da Vinci Code, or before him by the Holy Blood, Holy Grail, the Stuarts of Scotland are supposedly descended from King Arthur and Jesus Christ. These families are of course not descended from Jesus. The idea is preposterous. But they are related to the Holy Grail, and they are not Christians, but Kabbalists.

In reality, they, like all the aristocratic bloodlines that form the core of the Illuminati, are descended from Guillaume de Gellone of the eighth century AD. Guillaume's father was Rabbi Makhir, among the Exilarchs who ruled the Jews in Baghdad, who was sent West after a dispute over the successorship. In France, he took the name Theodoric, married Alda, the aunt of Charlemagne, and was appointed “King of the Jews” in the region of the Languedoc, with his capital the city of Narbonne.

Narbonne then became the heartland of the Medieval Kabbalah. The Kabbalists of Narbonne seem to have been responsible for instigating the Crusades, in order to retrieve sacred texts that had been buried there, but which had been unaccessible because of first the rule of the Romans, and then the Muslims.

Once Jerusalem was conquered, a Kabbalistic order of knights known as the Templars conducted excavations, and discovered the text of the Sepher ha Bahir, which revived the lost mystical tradition, and set off the cultural revolution of the Medieval Kabbalah.

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by zone Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:41 pm

Another aspect of the penetration of these Kabbalistic ideas was the heresy of the Cathars. The Cathar foothold was in the region of Tolouse, the bastion of the descendants of Guillaume, also known as the family of the Guilhemids, several of whom were ardent defenders of the heresy. However, the Cathars have been idealized by numerous Illuminati propagandists as having been innocent victims of Church persecutions, but the Cathars rejected the God of the Bible, in favour of the worship of Lucifer and practiced witchcraft. It was the Cathars who influenced the heretical aspects of the Templars, for which the order was disbanded in 1307.

Part of this Kabbalistic revolution was the legends of the Holy Grail, which included Cathar and Templar themes, and formulated in the region of Aquitaine, another stronghold of the Guilhemids. The Holy Grail, or San Greal, should have been translated as Sang Real, or Royal Blood, because it referred to the sacred bloodline that supposedly issued from Guillaume de Gellone, and ultimately King David, but which in reality, was understood to represent the descendants of the Fallen Angels, and their leader, Lucifer.

The Sinclairs were descendants of Guillaume de Gellone, through his great-great-granddaughter, Poppa of Bavaria, who married the Viking leader, Rollo Ragnvaldsson. Among Rollo's descendants was William the Conqueror of Normandy. The Sinclairs, or St. Clair, were given various other castles around France. However, they all went to England with the Conqueror. One Sinclair, though, named William, did not like the Conqueror, so with some other discontented barons, he went to Scotland and placed himself in the service of King Malcolm III of Scotland.

Malcolm III King of Scotland was the father of David I "the Saint" King of Scotland. In 1128, soon after the Council of Troyes, Hugh de Payens, the Templars' first Grand Master, met with King David I of Scotland. King David later surrounded himself with Templars, and appointed them as "the Guardians of his morals by day and night".
David married the grand-daughter of Lambert II, the brother of Godefroi de Bouillon, leader of the first crusade, and the sister of sister of William the Conqueror.

Godefroi's younger brother, Eustace III, married David's sister, Mary Scots. Their daughter married Stephen I King of England, the son Adela de Normandie, the daughter of William the Conqueror. Adela's brother, Henry I King of England, married David's sister, Editha of Scotland. Their daughter, Mathilda Empress of England, married Geoffrey V, Comte d'Anjou, whose son Henry II married Eleanor of Aquitaine.
King David granted Hugues and his knights the lands of Balantrodoch, by the Firth of Forth, but now renamed Temple, near the site of Rosslyn. And, legend has it that, when the Templars came under trial, their leader de Molay arranged for the Templar to return to Scotland, where they assisted Robert the Bruce at the Battle of Bannockburn.

Robert the Bruce claimed the Scottish throne as a great-great-great-great grandson of David. Walter Stewart, the sixth High Steward of Scotland, also played an important part in the Battle of Bannockburn. Walter Stewart then married Majory, daughter of Robert the Bruce, and their son Robert II of Scotland was heir to the House of Bruce; he eventually inherited the Scottish throne after his uncle David II of Scotland died.

In Scotland, the Templars served Robert the Bruce as members of the Scots Guard, of which two prominent families were those of the Stuarts and the Sinclairs. Henry Sinclair was a supporter of Robert the Bruce, and one of his descendants, William Sinclair, designed Rosslyn Chapel, a church in the village of Roslin, replete with occult symbolism, and believed to be one of the sites where the Grail might be buried. Finally, the Sinclairs became the Hereditary Grand Masters of the Masons of Scotland.

After Queen Elizabeth died without an heir, she was succeeded by the son of Mary Queen of Scots, James Stewart I of England, also known as King James. It is for this reason that the Freemasons of the eighteenth century conspired to back the Stuart cause, after their last monarch, James II Stuart, King of England, was deposed, and replaced by William of Orange. The Stuart cause then became the essence of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, which regarded the Stuarts as the inheritors of the Templars, who had rescued the secret tradition of the East, otherwise known as the Kabbalah.

Since the late eighteenth century, however, the Illuminati have come under the leadership of the Rothschild family. The founder of the dynasty, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, ordered his sons to marry only their first cousins, continuing the careful intermarrying practiced by their predecessors.

However, the first exception was Hannah, the daughter of Amschel Mayer's son, the notorious Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who married the Rt. Hon. Henry Fitzroy, a direct descendant of Charles II Stuart King of England, the father of James II.
More recently, however, is the great-great-great grandson of Nathan Mayer, Nathaniel Charles Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild, who married Mary Serena Dunn. The mother of Mary Serena was Lady Mary Sybil St. Clair-Erskine, who was the daughter of James Francis Harry St. Clair-Erskine, 5th Earl of Rosslyn.

Jacob Rothschild is the current head of the UK Rothschild family, having inherited the fourth baronetcy from his father, Victor, an eminent zoologist, and sometime MI5 agent and friend of KGB agents Anthony Blunt and Guy Burgess. Jacob resigned from the family's bank NM Rothschilds in 1980, run by his cousin Evelyn, and started RIT Capital Partners.

Jacob Rothschild resigned from the family's bank NM Rothschilds in 1980, run by his cousin Evelyn, and started RIT Capital Partners. He is chairman of Yad Hanadiv, the Rothschild foundation, which built and gave the Knesset government buildings and the Supreme Court to Israel, and chairs the Jewish Policy Research, dedicated to promoting issues affecting Jews worldwide.

Jacob Rothschild is chairman of Yad Hanadiv, the Rothschild foundation, which chairs the Jewish Policy Research, dedicated to promoting issues affecting Jews worldwide. Yad Hanadiv was also responsible for building and granting the Knesset government buildings, and the Supreme Court of Israel, which prominently features Masonic symbolism and the pyramid and all-seeing eye of the Illuminati.

Jacob Rothschild was a close personal friend of the Princess Diana, and maintains strong personal and business links with Henry Kissinger. He knows Rupert Murdoch well, having been friends since the Australian newspaper proprietor first came to the UK in the 1960s. His country estate has been a regular venue for visiting heads of state including Presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Margaret Thatcher received French President François Mitterrand there at a summit in 1990. He hosted the European Economic Round Table conference in 2002, attended by such figures as James Wolfensohn, president of the World Bank, Nicky Oppenheimer, Warren Buffet and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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by zone Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:14 pm

The Rothschilds and the Federal Reserve

Forward:

This article is about the Federal Reserves' true history, ownership, and purpose, and you will be shaken by this if this is the first time you have seen this information
http://www.angelfire.com/music2/fullcircle/rothschild.html.

What does the United States Federal Reserve have to do with Hitler’s extermination of 42 million people?

Rothschild Dynasty - Synagogue of Satan? - Page 2 Ww2-76-l

Rothschild Dynasty - Synagogue of Satan? - Page 2 Ww2-76-l

Both were created and funded by the Rothschild family. Today the Federal Reserve Bank is still owned and controlled by the Rothschild family and you and I are forced to pay taxes to them every time we get a paycheck from our employers, this is the federal tax on our paystub.

The following was takened from a larger work written by Andrew Hitchcock titled "The History of the House of Rothschild".

Rothschild financed IBM, supply machines to the Nazis which produce punch cards to help organize and manage the initial identification and social expulsion of Jews, the confiscation of their property and their extermination. Rothschild Dynasty - Synagogue of Satan? - Page 2 Victims

Rothschild Dynasty - Synagogue of Satan? - Page 2 Victims

by ada Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:10 pm

Zone SDA site. Much desinfo..
And posting those pictures from ww2 moves the eyes away from the victims from our modern times.

by zone Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:42 am

ada wrote:Zone SDA site. Much desinfo..
And posting those pictures from ww2 moves the eyes away from the victims from our modern times.

hey ada.
ya, i know its an SDA site.
i could post Soviet Gulag photos if thats what you mean.
we here know about that.

i'm not a holocaust denier (the numbers have changed significantly, we know).

that wasnt that point of the post: the point was to show that the same banksters and rats who funded hitler also funded stalin and Mao and the UN.

by zone Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:28 pm

740 A.D.

Rothschild Dynasty - Synagogue of Satan? - Page 2 Koestlermap13tribe

Khazaria (Click on map)

In 740 A.D. in a land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea, known as Khazaria, a land which today is predominantly occupied by Georgia, but also reaches into Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, and Romania, the modern Jewish race is born. A modern Jewish race that incidentally is not Jewish.
How can this be, you ask? Well at that time, the Khazarian people felt a vulnerable people as they had Muslims one side of them and Christians the other side of them, and thus constantly feared attack from either side. Furthermore, the Khazarian people were of neither faith and instead practiced idol worship, which made them ripe for invasion by a people who wished to convert them to an established faith.
The Khazarian King, King Bulan, decided in order to protect themselves against attack, the Khazarian people must convert to one of these faiths, but which one? If they converted to the Muslim faith they would risk attack by the Christians and if they converted to the Christian faith they would risk attack by the Muslims.
He had an idea. There was another race that he was aware were able to deal with both the Muslims and the Christians either side of him, predominantly in matters of trade. A race which also dealt with Khazarians in the same manner. That race was the Jews. King Bulan decided if he instructed his people to convert to Judaism he could keep both the Muslims and the Christians happy, as they were both already willing to trade with the Jews, so this is what he did.
King Bulan was right. He would live to see his country unconquered, his people convert to Judaism enthusiastically and adopt the principles of the most holy Jewish book, the Talmud. There are many things the king would not live to see, however.
He would not live to see his Asiatic race of converts to Judaism, one day represent 90% of all the Jews on the planet, and call themselves Ashkenazi Jews, when in fact they were not Jews, but simply an Asiatic race of people who converted to the Jewish religion, whilst still continuing to speak the Khazarian language of Yiddish, totally different to the language of Hebrew.
He would not live to see his people turn to the descendants of a man, far more powerful than him, who would be born just over 1,000 years later in Germany, a man named Bauer, who would spawn the Rothschild dynasty.
He would not live to see this dynasty usurp the wealth of the world through deception and intrigue, which they would finance through the vast riches they accumulate as they usurp the wealth of the world by gaining control of the worlds money supply.
He would not live to see his people demand a homeland for themselves in Palestine as their birthright, and ensure every Prime Minister there from its inception in 1948 is an Ashkenazi Jew, even though the true homeland of the Ashkenazi Jews, Khazaria, is his kingdom, some 800 miles away.
And he would not live to see his people fulfil bible prophecy, as the, Synagogue of Satan
http://ehpg.wordpress.com/synagogue-of-satan/

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by ada Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:14 pm

WHO ARE THE ELDERS?

This is a secret which has not been revealed. They are the
Hidden hand. They are not the "Board of Deputies" (the Jewish
Parliament in England) or the "Universal Israelite Alliance"
which sits in Paris. But the late Walter Rathenau of the Allgemeiner
Electricitaets Gesellschaft has thrown a little light on the subject and
doubtless he was in possession of their names, being, in all likelihood, one of
the chief leaders himself. Writing in the WIENER FREIE PRESSE, December 24,
1912, he said:

No more, are they a
secret...they are the Soviet Bolshevik Chabad Lubavitch Babylonian Talmudic
Pharisees of Lucifer's False Zion

"Three hundred men, each of whom knows all the others, govern the fate of
the European continent, and they elect their successors from their
entourage."

In the year 1844, on the eve of the Jewish Revolution of 1848,
Benjamin Disraeli, whose real name was Israel, and who was a "damped,"
or baptized Jew, published his novel, CONINGSBY, in which occurs this ominous
passage:

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined
by those who are not behind the scenes."

And he went on to show that these personages were all Jews.

Liars who say they are Jew,
but are not and they are of the synagogues of Satan. These are the "Self
Chosen" who have rejected the Chooser and are not the seed of Abraham
through faith in Christ Jesus, but just "SAYERS"

They are the Chabad
Lubavitch of the Soviet Bolshevik controlling Pharisaic Parasitic
non-Israel of the Babylonian Talmud the sons of the synagogue of Satan their
god, seeking to establish the vision in which their Illuminated Satan will sit
upon the throne of King David, the falseChrist as god showing that he is god in
the Temple of the Messiah the Prince. They are the Rulers of Apostate Solomons
Freemasonry. They hate the saints of Jesus and they seek to destroy the whore
Jerusalem and the remnant of true flesh Jews, the so-called "Lesser
Jews"

Now that Providence has brought to the light of day these
secret Protocols all men may clearly see the hidden personages specified
by Disraeli at work "behind the scenes" of all the Governments. This
revelation entails on all peoples the grave responsibility of examining
and revising AU FOND their attitude towards the Race and Nation which boasts of
its survival over all Empires.
Notes I. - "Agentur" and "The Political."

There are two words in this translation which are unusual, the
word "AGENTUR" and "political" used as a substantive,
AGENTUR appears to be a word adopted from the original and it means the whole
body of agents and agencies made use of by the Elders, whether members of the
tribe or their Gentile tools.

By "the Political" Mr. Marsden means, not
exactly the "body politic" but the entire machinery of
politics.
Notes II - The Symbolic Snake of Judaism.

Protocol III opens with a reference to the Symbolic
Snake of Judaism. In his Epilogue to the 1905 Edition of the
Protocols, Nilus gives the following interesting account of this symbol:

This symbol you will see frequently
on Wall Street such as INTEL.

see Wallstreet

"According to the records of secret Jewish Zionism,
Solomon and other Jewish learned men already, in 929 B.C., thought out a scheme
in theory for a peaceful conquest of the whole universe by Zion.

The Apostate son of David, Solomon,
who worshipped Moloch and his star, the six pointed star that they made with
their hands to worship and who began Free Masonry of the Mystery Babylonian
Nimrod High Priest Pontifex Maximas Papacy tradition.

As history developed, this scheme was worked out in
detail and completed by men who were subsequently initiated in this question.
These learned men decided by peaceful means to conquer the world for Zion with
the slyness of the Symbolic Snake, whose head was to represent those who have
been initiated into the plans of the Jewish administration, and the body of the
Snake to represent the Jewish people - the administration was always kept
secret, EVEN FROM THE JEWISH NATION ITSELF.

Yes in a peaceful manner the Whore
was responsible for all that has been slain upon the earth. In a peaceful manner
the War of 1812, the civil War, WW1-WWII and soon WWIII, in a peaceful manner
millions were slain in Russia and Millions more at their hired Lackey's hands,
Hitler, all to create their false-Zion and One World Order, their Olam Ha Ba..Oh
but temporary and unblessed it and their Moshiach ben Satan be......and damned
to eternity in gnashing and Gnawing of teeth in outer darkness. Jesus Christ is
the Only Alpha and the Only Omega the Word which hath created everthing which
hath been created.

These were and are the Pharisaic
Talmudic Rabbi's of the Sanhedrin. Today they are known as Chabad Lubavitch and
they soon hope to revive their much sought after Sanhedrin, Moshiach and their One
World Order, called Olam Ha Ba and to rule over all
the earth by the Talmudic Noachide Laws which was passed into Public Law
HJR in 1991 by Congress and signed into Law by the President George H. W. Bush
who was also a Free Mason of the apostate Moloch Order of Solomon.

see Noachide
Laws

As this Snake penetrated into the hearts of the nations which
it encountered it undermined and devoured all the non-Jewish power of these
States. It is foretold that the Snake has still to finish its work, strictly
adhering to the designed plan, until the course which it has to run is closed by
the return of its head to Zion and until, by
this means, the Snake has completed its round of Europe and has encircled it -
and until, by dint of enchaining Europe, it has encompassed the whole world.
This it is to accomplish by using every endeavor to subdue the other countries
by an ECONOMICAL CONQUEST. The return of the head of the Snake to Zion can only
be accomplished after the power of all the Sovereign of Europe has been laid
low, that is to say, when by means of economic crises and wholesale destruction
effected everywhere, there shall have been brought about a spiritual
demoralization and a moral corruption, chiefly with the assistance of Jewish
women masquerading as French, Italians, etc.. These are the surest spreaders of
licentiousness into the lives of the leading men at the heads of nations.

Bill Clinton's impeachment was
brought by the Talmudic Jewess Monica Lewinsky. Making Room for the son of the
Solomonic Apostate of the 33rd Degree to become the President of the United
States, George W. Bush, also of the Babylonian Talmudic Order of Madam
Blavatsky's Theosophy which Hitler was too, a student.

A map of the course of the Symbolic Snake is shown as follows:
- Its first stage in Europe was in 429 B.C. in Greece, where, about the time of
Pericles, the Snake first started eating into the power of that country. The
second stage was in Rome in the time of Augustus, about 69 B.C..

Do not be deceived, it was not Rome
who ruled the Jews, it was the Jews who controlled Rome as they did control
Napolean, as they ruled Hitler, as they ruled Moscow and now as they rule
Amerika.
...

http://www.samliquidation.com/protocolstoday.htm

by ada Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:41 pm

Henry H. Klein. Attorney, New York City—
"We are no longer citizens of the United States of America. We
are now [1946] citizens of the United Nations Organization, the same as
the citizens of every other nation.
The U.N. was created in San Francisco in 1945, by a handful of
persons from different countries. Agents of Rockefeller and Standard
Oil arranged the meeting. There were no representatives from
Germany, Italy and Japan.
Where is the authority for such a super government? It is in the
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, a document published about 50
years ago. The Protocols outline a detailed plan for the destruction of
the Christian world and the creation of a world government to be ruled
by the 'elders.' Stop the madness of the Sanhedrin and the graft and
propaganda of the political Zionists. They constitute the poison in the
Jews' cup."
1946

by **strangelove** Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:07 pm

Interesting article of Rothers and the City of London:

Empire States: Geostrategic Powercenters

by zone Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:02 pm

i heard from Lord Moncton that the banks in City of London are jumping ship....supposedly Frankfort is about to take the financial reins of power for EU (?oh really?)

City of London trying to get to switzerland, too many, now looking at tel aviv. this is coming down to the battles between the city states for who will rule the world. israel is included in the club....more coming.

i wonder if this London exodus is in advance of the 2012 OLYMPICS?

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-01-04/wall_street/30002071_1_goldman-swiss-government-uk

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/01/28/davos-johnson-idUKLDE60R2SY20100128

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/London_mayor_cautions_bankers_against_Swiss_move.html?cid=8189894

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a73WrKRzrdJI

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/switzerland/7004992/British-bankers-find-the-good-life-in-Switzerland-even-before-tax.html

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-business/article-23782404-switzerland-sets-out-stall-to-woo-wealthy-from-london.do

http://www.cityam.com/news-and-analysis/bankers-escape-the-city-avoid-the-uk-super-tax

~
London mayor opens Tel Aviv Stock Exchange.
http://yourjewishnews.com/8201.aspx

City of London

By Wikipedia

The City of London is a small area within Greater London, England. It is the historic core of London around which the modern conurbation grew and has held city status since time immemorial. The City’s boundaries have remained almost unchanged since the Middle Ages, and it is now only a tiny part of the metropolis of London, though remains a notable part of Central London. It is often referred to as the City or the Square Mile, as it is just over one square mile (1.12 sq mi/2.90 km) in area. These terms are also often used as metonyms for the United Kingdom's financial services industry, which…

has historically been based here. In the medieval period, the City was the full extent of London. The term London now refers to a much larger conurbation roughly corresponding to Greater London, a local government area which includes 32 London boroughs as well as the City of London, which is not one of the 32 London boroughs. The local authority for the City, the City of London Corporation, is unique in the United Kingdom, and has some unusual responsibilities for a local authority in Britain, such as being the police authority for the City. It also has responsibilities and ownerships beyond the City's boundaries. The Corporation is headed by the Lord Mayor of the City of London, a separate (and much older) office to the Mayor of London. The City is today a major business and financial centre, ranking on a par with New York City as the leading centre of global finance; in the 19th century, the City served as the world's primary business centre. The City has a resident population of approximately 8,000, but around 320,000 people work there, mainly in the financial services sector. The legal profession form a major component of the western side of the City, especially in the Temple and Chancery Lane areas; these are where the Inns of Court are located, of which two — Inner Temple and Middle Temple — fall within the City of London boundary.

http://www.jpost.com/topic/City_of_London

by zone Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:16 pm

p64
London is the world's financial center, because it can command enormous amounts of capital, created at its command by the Federal Reserve Board of the United States.

... The majority stock of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York was purchased by three New York City banks: First National Bank, National City Bank, and the National Bank of Commerce. An examination of the principal stockholders in these banks, in 1914, and today, reveals a direct London connection.

p67
The astounding idea that the Federal Reserve System of the United States is actually operated from London will probably be rejected at first hearing by most Americans. However, Minsky has become famous for his theory of the "dominant frame He states that in any particular situation, there is a "dominant frame" to which everything in that situation is related and through which it can be interpreted. The "dominant frame" in the monetary policy decisions of the Federal Reserve System is that these decisions are made by those who stand to benefit most from them. At first glance, this would seem to be the principal stockholders of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. However ... these stockholders all have a "London Connection The "London Connection" becomes more obvious as the dominant power when we find in [the book] 'The Capital City', that only seventeen firms are allowed to operate as merchant bankers in the City of London, England's financial district. All of them must be approved by the Bank of England. In fact, most of the Governors of the Bank of England come from the partners of these seventeen firms... five merchant banking firms of London actually control the New York banks which own the controlling interest in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

... The London merchant bankers, with their power to set the price of gold each day, become the final arbiters of the volume of money and the price of money in those countries which must bow to their power. Not the least of these is the United States. No official of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, or of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, can command the power over the money of the world which is held by these London merchant bankers. Great Britain, while waning in political and military power, today exercises the greatest financial power. It is for this reason that London is the present financial center of the world.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Banks/London_Connection_TSOTFR.html

by zone Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:17 pm

p82
From 1887 to 1914, [a] precarious system of heavily armed but bankrupt European nations endured, while the United States continued to be a debtor nation, borrowing money from abroad, but making few international loan because we did not have a central bank or "mobilization of credit". The system of national loans developed by the Rothschilds served to finance European struggles during the nineteenth century, because they were spread out over Rothschild branches in several countries. By 1900, it was obvious that the European countries could not afford a major war. They had large standing armies, universal military service, and modern weapons, but their economies could not support the enormous expenditures. The Federal Reserve System began operations in 1914, forcing the American people to lend the Allies twenty-five billion dollars which was not repaid, although considerable interest was paid to New York bankers. The American people were driven to make war on the German people with whom we had no conceivable political or economic quarrel.

by zone Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:18 pm

p85

When the Communist Revolution seemed in doubt, Wilson sent his personal emissary, Elihu Root, to Russia with one hundred million dollars from his Special Emergency War Fund to save the toppling Bolshevik regime.

p90
Bernard Baruch, testifying before the Nye Committee on September 13, 1917

All wars are economic in their origin.

p94
[There is a] linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J.P. Morgan Co. and Kuhn, Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914.

by zone Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:19 pm

so....if as moncton has said there's an exodus out of London....what's the final destination?

looking.....he mentioned Rome. it may be, since she has to play the harlot, ya?

by zone Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:26 pm

Why does Israel own the USA via the Federal Reserve?

http://www.khouse.org/articles/1995/63/
The principal shareholders of the Federal Reserve include: Rothschild Banks of England and Berlin; Warburg Banks of Hamburg and Amsterdam; Laz ard Brothers Banks of Paris; Israel Moses Seiff Banks of Italy; Chase Manhattan Bank of New York; Lehman Brothers of New York; Kuhn, Loeb of New York; and Goldman, Sachs of New York.

Best Answer by Asker

In 1910 at a meeting on Fire Island NY, the richest people in the USA sat at a meeting chaired by Rockafeller. They devised the Federal Reserve system. Basically, banks borrow money from the government and loan it out at a higher rate than they pay for it. That is the discount rate. So Banks were allowed to act as brokers for tax dollars and get a profit for doing so. Win/win for the banking industry. Of course regulations were put in place restricting the amount of loans in ratio to deposits, etc.

The deregulation and relaxing of requirements allowed the banks to loan much more. Of course, they needed to get the money out the door, so they eased basic principles. Mainly being that the borrower had an ability to repay. They were loaning up to 150% of a home value often with no down or income verification. One Realtor here in Las Vegas defaulted on 42 mortgages on single family homes that he bought and leveraged, then allowed to default.

The Jewish banking interests have always been a part of the system here from the very beginning. Of course many of the past profits have gone to Israel, and many have moved to Israel to take advantage of that government's protection of them and subsidized tax structure for that industry.

There is in fact one world order that is controlled by those who control the flow of money around the world. Governments are manipulated and corrupted by the money. Drug laws, enforcement, etc are all in place because of the money strategies.

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by zone Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:30 pm

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When the Communist Revolution seemed in doubt, Wilson sent his personal emissary, Elihu Root, to Russia with one hundred million dollars from his Special Emergency War Fund to save the toppling Bolshevik regime.

Elihu Root

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After World War I, Root supported the League of Nations and served on the commission of jurists, which created the Permanent Court of International Justice. In 1922, President Warren G. Harding appointed him as a delegate to the International Conference on the Limitation of Armaments. He was the founding chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, established in 1918 in New York.

Root's former home in Washington, D.C.

Root worked with Andrew Carnegie in programs for international peace and the advancement of science. He was the first president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. He helped found the American Society of International Law in 1906. He was among the founders of the American Law Institute in 1923. Furthermore, he also helped create the Hague Academy of International Law in the Netherlands.

Root also served as vice president of the American Peace Society, which publishes World Affairs, the oldest U.S. journal on international relations.

In addition to the Nobel Prize, Root was awarded the Grand Cordon of the Order of the Crown (from Belgium) and the Grand Commander of the Order of George I (from Greece). He was the second cousin twice removed of Henry Luce, through Elihu Root (1772–1843). Before his death, Root had been the last surviving member of the McKinley Cabinet.

Root died in 1937 in New York City, with his family by his side. He was survived by at least one son, Elihu Root, Jr., a graduate of Hamilton College and an attorney like his father.^[4] He is buried at the Hamilton College Cemetery.^[5] The home in Clinton, New York, that he purchased in 1893, known as the Elihu Root House, was declared a National

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by zone Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:19 pm

The Rothschild story: A golden era ends for a secretive dynasty

By Paul Vallely, The Guardian, 16 April 2004

The news that the bankers Rothschild are to withdraw from the gold market, in which they have been a major player for two centuries, has been hailed as the end of an era.

In one sense, of course, it is. This was the company that smuggled gold coins across the English Channel to finance the Duke of Wellington’s advance through France to his final triumph at Waterloo over Napoleon (who, it turned out, had also borrowed money from the Rothschilds).

But in another way it marks out the continuation of an even older tradition – the ability of the family which has founded one of the world’s largest private banking dynasties to sustain their secretive fortune, which industry insiders count not in billions but in trillions, and keep it within the family.

Secrecy has been a hallmark of the Rothschilds from the outset. Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the son of an itinerant money lender and goldsmith who settled in the Jewish ghetto in Frankfurt-am-Main in 1744, specialised not just in clever accounting practices but also kept secret books and subterranean vaults which he ensured were never the privy of auditor, lawyer or taxman.

As the paterfamilias became more successful he despatched four of his five sons to different European capitals to take advantage of the rise of capitalism and the growth of international trade. Nathan he sent to London, James to Paris, Saloman to Vienna, and Carl to Naples, keeping the eldest, Amschel, at home with him in Prussia. Of these the two most important proved to be London and Paris, where the two main branches of the family developed a friendly rivalry, with the English branch developing the edge in business and the French in philanthropy, the arts and winemaking. But then in 1996 Amschel Rothschild, a 41-year-old man who had lived in the flamboyant style of many of his ancestors, hanged himself in a Paris hotel room. He was the Rothschild who had been groomed to take over as head of the English arm of the dynasty.

So when the bank’s chairman Sir Evelyn de Rothschild retired earlier this year the succession passed to the French side of the family. Baron David de Rothschild, who had been running the family’s Paris-based bank, inherited.

None of the Rothschild enterprises have been banks in the sense as understood by the man or woman in the street. What Mayer Rothschild founded in the 1760s was a business which grew from the humble beginning of selling rare coins to becoming the prime moneylender to greedy and spendthrift governments across Europe. One German contemporary quipped that Mayer was “the pride of Israel … before whose money box kings and emperors humbly bow”. And the novelist Thackeray said of Nathan that he was “not king of the Jews, but the Jew of the kings”. The brothers financed both sides in the Napoleonic wars and in the Austro-Prussian war too.

It has long been supposed that Nathan increased the family fortune 20-fold by speculating on the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo in 1815. The Rothschilds had a network of agents throughout Europe who, using fast boats, coded letters and carrier pigeons, got information to the family ahead of official sources. Victor Rothschild, third baron and former chairman of the London bank, N M Rothschild, always maintained that Nathan had made a killing by encouraging rumours that Wellington had lost when he knew he had won, though the historian Niall Ferguson in his magisterial history of the family recently disputed that.

Certainly, for all the family motto of Concordia, Integritas, Industria (Unity, Integrity, Industry), Nathan’s ability to depress stock prices by using the network of agents to spread rumours, true or false, and then buy the stock up after people panicked, was legendary.

More significant, however, was that in the process the Rothschilds created the world of banking as we know it today. Nathan operated principally as an underwriter and speculator in the early 19th-century bond market. He and his brothers invented, or at any rate popularised, the government bond, which allowed investors, big and small, to buy bits of the debts of sovereign states by purchasing fixed-interest bearer bonds.

Governments liked this because they could use them to raise colossal sums of money. Investors liked them because they could be traded – at prices that fluctuated in relation to the performance of the issuing government – and shrewd investors could make big sums. It brought investment in railways, the industrial revolution and ventures like the Suez Canal. The Rothschilds got a cut of everything.

It was a new kind of power. “I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply,” Nathan said. The family developed a lack of awe for the powerful and important. A pompous aristocrat one day called on Nathan who was head down at his desk. Without looking up, the banker said: “Take a chair.” His caller, affronted, said: “You are speaking to the Prince of Thurn and Taxis.” To which Rothschild replied: “Take two chairs.” At one point he even rescued the Bank of England after a run on gold caused the collapse of 145 banks. In 1885 he was given the hereditary title of Baron Rothschild.

Many of the distinct characteristics of the family can be traced back to the will of the founder Mayer Rothschild. It stipulated that no public inventory should be made of his estate; that key positions in the House of Rothschild were to be held by family members; that the eldest son should inherit unless the rest agreed otherwise; that the family was to intermarry with first and second cousins to keep the fortune together; that anyone disputing these terms would be struck from the will. And that all this should apply in perpetuity.

In part this was about preserving not just their Jewish identity but a self-conscious position as role models for their poorer co-religionists. The Rothschilds expended much effort and money pressing for Jewish emancipation and equality across the continent.

Their Jewish solidarity was not heterogeneous. In 1938 Nathan’s great-great-grandson, Victor, shocked an audience by saying that in spite of “the slow murder of 600,000 people” on the continent “we probably all agree that there is something unsatisfactory in refugees encroaching on the privacy of our country, even for relatively short periods of time.” And the family split over the question of the dream of a Jewish homeland, with some members supporting the first Zionist settlement in Palestine and the Balfour declaration and others opposing it on the grounds that it would encourage anti-Semites to question the existing national identities of assimilated Jews around the rest of the world. None of which has allayed the wild fears of anti-Semites who throughout the 20th century branded the Rothschilds as part of a Jewish plot to take over the world.

The world has changed around the Rothschilds. At one point Nathan Rothschild was the richest man in Britain and probably in the world. In today’s terms he was wealthier than Bill Gates. But they never gained the foothold in America they needed. The world became corporate. Private banking got left behind.

Still, the family has moved down only from fabulously rich to enormously wealthy. And they adjusted to the times. They made billions in the 1980s from Margaret Thatcher’s privatisations of state-owned industries on which they advised. In France after their bank was nationalised by the Socialist president Francois Mitterrand they slowly built a new business which, under Baron David de Rothschild, has risen to the top ranks of the merger and acquisition league tables. They have pulled out of retail fund management – into which they went with much fanfare only three years back – and now they are pulling out of oil and gold in favour of the higher-margin areas of private banking and wealth management.

Do not spend too many tears. In 1997 the family’s Swiss holding company increased its profits by 66 per cent. The firm is not called Rothschild Continuation for nothing.

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by **strangelove** Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:57 pm

zone wrote:i wonder if this London exodus is in advance of the 2012 OLYMPICS?

Wow!

Adding fuel to the speculation summink major is gonna kick of at that time.

by zone Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:51 am

The Round Table Group quotes
The Round Table Group Shadow government Quotes

The Fabian Socialists dominated the staff at Oxford when the Rhodes Scholars began arriving. These scholars then received indoctrination and preparation to become part of an international socialist New World Order.(38) The Round Table Group developed from the inner executive circle of Rhode’s secret society. The outer circle was established after the start of the 20th century. The Round Table Group was extended after W.W. I by organizing a front organization the Royal Institute of International Affairs. The Council of Foreign Relations was the American part of this front. The inner circle continues to direct the outer circle and its two front organizations RIIA and CFR. The CER in turn set up a number of fronts including the Institute of Pacific Relations (IPR).Bloodlines of the Illuminati 11. Rothschild

Victor Rothschild, who worked for J.P. Morgan & Co., and was an important part of MI5 (British Intelligence). Victor Rothschild was also a communist and member of the Apostles Club at Cambridge.⁴⁵ Lord Rothschild was one of the original members of Rhode’s Round Table group which developed into the CFR. It was the Rothschilds who had financed Cecil Rhodes, beginning in Africa. The Rothschilds’ have several agents which their money got started and who still serve them well, the Morgans and the Rockefellers. The Rockefellers were Marrano Jews. The original Rockefeller made his money selling narcotics, (they weren’t illegal then). After acquiring a little capital he branched out in oil. But it was the Rothschild capital that made the Rockefeller’s so powerful. "They also financed the activities of Edward Harriman (railroads) and Andrew Carnegie Steel."(46)Bloodlines of the Illuminati 11. Rothschild

Three Illuminati families stand out in the creation of the Round Table groups, which then became the RIIA and the CFR and related groups. These are the Rothschilds, Astors, and Greys. The Bailey family also shows up an important generational satanic family. The RIIA and its various branches such as the CFR are very powerful today. In my Be Wise As Serpents book readers can find a chart showing the role the CFR plays in the Policy Process of the U.S.
The men who formed Milner’s Round table group from the various clues in their lives were by and large secret Satanists. Rhodes and Stead created a secret society which had a "circle of initiates." This circle included such names as Albert (Lord) Grey, Arthur (Lord) Balfour, Sir Harry Johnston, and Lord Rothschild. Milner was on the executive committee of this secret group. Carroll Quigley dates the start of the group as March i 891. Apparently, the Rothschilds helped finance this secret society. In 1909-1913, this secret society in turn formed Round Table groups in British dependencies and the U.S. Eight of these round table groups were still functioning into the 1970s. Sir Abe Bailey supported the Round Table groups quarterly magazine called The Round Table in 1919. Sir Abe Bailey and the Astors financed the creation of the Royal Institute of International Affairs which in turn created daughter organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations in the United States. The RIIA is also sometimes called Chatham House. The first Round Table group of the Rhode-Milner group were sometimes called the Cliveden Set because they often met at the Astor’s Cliveden Estate. Bloodlines of the Illuminati 11. Rothschild

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by zone Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:52 am

back] Bloodlines of the Illuminati by Fritz Springmeier
The Rothschild Bloodline

ROTHSCHILD TALKS ABOUT THEIR DYNASTY
VISITING THE NATION THE ROTHSCHILDS BUILT
THE ROTHSCHILDS AS "PROPHETS"
ANOTHER GOD TOO
CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD --connections to JWs, Mormons, and Judaism Charles T. Russell Jacob Schiff
CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--connections to secret societies
Mountbatten's
CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--CONTROL OVER SATANISM & WITCHCRAFT
LONG-STORY SHORT
CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--CONTROL OVER W.W. I TREATY
CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--connections to MI5, Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, CFR, et. al.
CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--Power within Christendom
EXTENT OF ROTHSCHILD POWER
ALLIES Oppenheims
SORTING OUT THE VARIOUS IDENTITY GROUPS
CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD- The Media
THE ROTHSCHILDS: A CONTINUATION OF ARTICLES ON THE TOP 13 ILLUMINATI FAMILIES
Part I THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD
"THE NEW TRINITY"
ROTHSCHILD INFLUENCE IN AMERICA
THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD AND ISRAEL
Bibliography:
INTRODUCTION TO PART 2 OF THE ROTHSCHILDS
THEIR POWER IS EXTENSIVE
THE BLOODLINES ARE SECRET
ABOVE THE LAW
THE ROUND TABLE GROUP
THE ROTHSCHILDS--PART 2 BY DAVID SMITH
FRENCH HOUSE, LATE 19TH AND EARLY 20TH CENTURY
BRITISH HOUSE, LATE 19TH AND EARLY 20TH
AUSTRIAN HOUSE, LATE 19TH AND EARLY 20TH CENTURY
THE MORGAN CONNECTION
THE SCHIFF CONNECTION
JEKYLL ISLAND
WORLD WAR I
WORLD WAR II
GLOBALISM
Bibliography:
A NOTE ABOUT THE KRUPPS OF GERMANY
PART 3. THE ROTHSCHILDS TODAY by Fritz Springmeier
The Rothschilds a daily threat
The first great temple.

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by **strangelove** Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:49 pm

Yup the Rotherz seem to be neck deep in this stuff.

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