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complaining of high prices due to 'global warming' carbon taxes is illegal!!
Don't serve carbon lies, ACCC warns
By Phil Hudson The Daily Telegraph May 25, 2012 9:57am
SHOPS and restaurants could face fines up to $1.1 million if waiters or sales staff wrongly blame the carbon tax for price rises or exaggerate the impact.
And households are being warned to watch out for telephone scammers offering to deposit carbon tax compensation into their bank accounts.
The prices watchdog, the ACCC, will today launch its countdown to the July 1 carbon tax with a special focus on helping small businesses understand their obligations and consumers to be vigilant for false claims.
It is releasing internet videos to help business, a 16-page guide and has set up a dedicated website www.accc.gov.au/carbon.
ACCC deputy chairman Dr Michael Schaper told the Herald Sun companies were entitled to increase their prices and did not have to justify or explain why....
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/money/dont-serve-carbon-lies/story-e6frezc0-1226366534694
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complaining of high prices due to 'global warming' carbon taxes is illegal!!
By Phil Hudson The Daily Telegraph May 25, 2012 9:57am
SHOPS and restaurants could face fines up to $1.1 million if waiters or sales staff wrongly blame the carbon tax for price rises or exaggerate the impact.
And households are being warned to watch out for telephone scammers offering to deposit carbon tax compensation into their bank accounts.
The prices watchdog, the ACCC, will today launch its countdown to the July 1 carbon tax with a special focus on helping small businesses understand their obligations and consumers to be vigilant for false claims.
It is releasing internet videos to help business, a 16-page guide and has set up a dedicated website www.accc.gov.au/carbon.
ACCC deputy chairman Dr Michael Schaper told the Herald Sun companies were entitled to increase their prices and did not have to justify or explain why....
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/money/dont-serve-carbon-lies/story-e6frezc0-1226366534694
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complaining of high prices due to 'global warming' carbon taxes is illegal!!
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Judaized Christianity: Front for New World Order -- Sen. McCarthy
Judaized Christianity: Front for New World Order -- Sen. McCarthy
July 18, 2012
"Your Churches Will Teach the Jew's Religion"
Excerpt from a 1956 speech, "GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER" by Senator Joseph McCarthy (1908-1957.)
And many of the people of the land became Jews." Esther 9:17.
"The confession of General Cornwallis (left) to General Washington at Yorktown (Oct. 17, 1781) has been well hidden by historians. History books and text books have taught for years that when Cornwallis surrendered his army to General Washington that American independence came, and we lived happily ever after until the tribulations of the twentieth century."
"Jonathan Williams recorded in his "LEGIONS OF SATAN," 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown."
Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem a contradiction:
"Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry."
And indeed George Washington himself was a Mason, and he gave back through a false religion what he had won with his army.
"Cornwallis well knew that his military defeat was only the beginning of world catastrophe that would be universal and that unrest would continue until mind control could be accomplished through a false religion. What he predicted has come to pass. A brief sketch of American religious history and we have seen Masonry infused into every church in America with their veiled Phallic religion.
"Darby and the Plymouth Brethren brought a Jewish Christianity to America. Masons Rutherford and Russell started Jehovah Witnesses' Judaism which is now worldwide with their message of the divine kingdom. Mason Joseph Smith started Mormon Judaism with its Jewish teaching of millennialism. ....
MORE:
http://www.henrymakow.com/nwo_introduced_under_masonic_g.html
we were right Doc.
Jesus has not left us alone.
i love you doc.
July 18, 2012
"Your Churches Will Teach the Jew's Religion"
Excerpt from a 1956 speech, "GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER" by Senator Joseph McCarthy (1908-1957.)
And many of the people of the land became Jews." Esther 9:17.
"The confession of General Cornwallis (left) to General Washington at Yorktown (Oct. 17, 1781) has been well hidden by historians. History books and text books have taught for years that when Cornwallis surrendered his army to General Washington that American independence came, and we lived happily ever after until the tribulations of the twentieth century."
"Jonathan Williams recorded in his "LEGIONS OF SATAN," 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown."
Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem a contradiction:
"Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry."
And indeed George Washington himself was a Mason, and he gave back through a false religion what he had won with his army.
"Cornwallis well knew that his military defeat was only the beginning of world catastrophe that would be universal and that unrest would continue until mind control could be accomplished through a false religion. What he predicted has come to pass. A brief sketch of American religious history and we have seen Masonry infused into every church in America with their veiled Phallic religion.
"Darby and the Plymouth Brethren brought a Jewish Christianity to America. Masons Rutherford and Russell started Jehovah Witnesses' Judaism which is now worldwide with their message of the divine kingdom. Mason Joseph Smith started Mormon Judaism with its Jewish teaching of millennialism. ....
MORE:
http://www.henrymakow.com/nwo_introduced_under_masonic_g.html
we were right Doc.
Jesus has not left us alone.
i love you doc.
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And don't forget John Thomas and the Christadelphians, spawned from the Campbellite/Millerite Restorationist Movement.
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pps. i answered your pm, but it doesn't show in my sent box. lemme know if you got it.
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Sabbateans and modern secularism
Some scholars have noted that the Sabbatean movement in general fostered and connected well with the principles of modern secularism.[3] Related to this is the drive of the Donmeh in Turkey for secularizing their society just as European Jews promoted the values of Age of Enlightenment and its Jewish equivalent the haskalah.
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Sabbateans and modern secularism
Some scholars have noted that the Sabbatean movement in general fostered and connected well with the principles of modern secularism.[3] Related to this is the drive of the Donmeh in Turkey for secularizing their society just as European Jews promoted the values of Age of Enlightenment and its Jewish equivalent the haskalah.
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PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:And don't forget John Thomas and the Christadelphians, spawned from the Campbellite/Millerite Restorationist Movement.
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zone wrote:pps. i answered your pm, but it doesn't show in my sent box. lemme know if you got it.
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Sabbateans and modern secularism
Some scholars have noted that the Sabbatean movement in general fostered and connected well with the principles of modern secularism.[3] Related to this is the drive of the Donmeh in Turkey for secularizing their society just as European Jews promoted the values of Age of Enlightenment and its Jewish equivalent the haskalah.
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"Instead of idols and passions, I worshiped words and argument, becoming part of an unashamedly Jewish verbal invasion of American culture. It was especially satisfying to realize the wildest fantasy of the world's anti-Semites: Inspired by our heritage as keepers of the book, creators of law, and storytellers supreme, Jews in America did finally achieve a disproportionate influence in universities and in all media of communication.
Punch Sulzberger unconsciously abetted this movement. He felt born to the publisher's chair and had none of his father's hang-ups about being Jewish. Israel's ambassadors to the United Nations lived just a few floors below his Fifth Avenue apartment and always enjoyed easy access to him and to his table at The Times. Within a few years of Punch's ascendancy, there came a time when not only the executive editor -- A. M. Rosenthal -- and I but ALL the top editors listed on the paper's masthead were Jews. Over vodka in the publisher's back room, this was occasionally mentioned an any impolitic condition, but it was altered only gradually, without any affirmative action on behalf of Christians."
- Max Frankel, former New York Times Executive Editor, 'The Times of My Life. And my Life with The Times' (Random House, New York, 1999), pages 400-401.
Punch Sulzberger unconsciously abetted this movement. He felt born to the publisher's chair and had none of his father's hang-ups about being Jewish. Israel's ambassadors to the United Nations lived just a few floors below his Fifth Avenue apartment and always enjoyed easy access to him and to his table at The Times. Within a few years of Punch's ascendancy, there came a time when not only the executive editor -- A. M. Rosenthal -- and I but ALL the top editors listed on the paper's masthead were Jews. Over vodka in the publisher's back room, this was occasionally mentioned an any impolitic condition, but it was altered only gradually, without any affirmative action on behalf of Christians."
- Max Frankel, former New York Times Executive Editor, 'The Times of My Life. And my Life with The Times' (Random House, New York, 1999), pages 400-401.
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Not sure where to post this, or if it's too elementary and has been previously posted.
The Satanic Cult That Rules the World
October 16, 2007
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
"How can one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight unless...God had delivered them into enemy hands?" Deuteronomy 32:30
"Either convert to Islam or die." This was the choice the Turkish Sultan put to Sabbatai Zevi, self-proclaimed Jewish "Messiah" in 1666.
By only pretending to convert, Zevi resorted to a common practice. But Zevi was not an ordinary Jew. He led a popular heresy, based on a satanic strain of Cabalism. The rabbis had denounced him and his followers.
After his "conversion," over a million followers, who later included financiers like the Rothschilds, imitated his example. But they didn't just pretend to be Muslims or Christians. They pretended to be Jews as well.
Communist defector Bella Dodd revealed that during the 1930's the Communist Party had 1100 members join the Catholic Priesthood. They became Bishops, Cardinals and possibly Popes.
By adopting this chameleon strategy, this satanic cult infiltrated and subverted most governments and religions, and established an invisible tyranny without drawing much attention. In the words of the gifted researcher Clifford Shack:
"Through infiltration, stealth and cunning, this invisible network has come to rule us all. Forty-one years after Shabbatai Zevi's death, in 1717, they would infiltrate Masonry guilds in England and establish Freemasonry.... [Zevi's successor] Jacob Frank would have a great impact on the inner core of Freemasonry known as the Illuminati, formed in 1776. Freemasonry would become the hidden force behind events like the [American, French and Russian] revolutions, the creations of the U.N. & Israel, both World Wars (including the Holocaust!), and the assassinations of the Kennedy brothers who, together with their father, tried to thwart the efforts of the network on American soil.
Sabbatean/Frankists, also referred to as the "Cult of the All-Seeing Eye" (look on the back of your one dollar bill to begin to understand their influence in YOUR life), are political and religious chameleons. They are everywhere...there is power. They are the good guys AND the bad guys. The World War Two era is a prime example. The following leaders were members of the "Cult of the All-Seeing Eye" (Sabbatean/Frankists): Franklin D. Roosevelt; Winston Churchill; Adolph Hitler; Eugenio Pacelli (Pope Pius XII); Francisco Franco; Benito Mussolini; Hirohito and Mao Tse-Tung."
IMPLICATIONS
If Mr. Shack is correct, historians, educators and journalists collaborate by upholding a false reality and distracting us from the truth. Our world, our perception of the human experience, are shaped by an occult secret society. Our culture is an elaborate psy-op.
Obviously, the Sabbateans and their descendants should consume our attention. Instead, they are hidden from view. They were decisive in the so-called "Enlightenment," "secularism" and "modernism," which are but baby steps to their Satanism.
According to Rabbi Marvin Antelman, they believe sin is holy and should be practised for its own sake. Since the Messiah will come when people either become righteous or totally corrupt, the Sabbateans opted for debauchery: "Since we cannot all be saints, let us all be sinners."
Their blasphemous benediction "who permits the forbidden" later became the Illuminist "do as thou wilt" the expression of their "religious" feeling. Totally amoral, they believe the "end justifies the means." ("To Eliminate the Opiate,"Vol. 2 p. 87)
In 1756, Jacob Frank and his followers were excommunicated by the rabbis. Antelman says the Sabbateans were behind the Reform, Liberal and Revolutionary movements of the Nineteenth century. They were also behind the Reform and Conservative movements in Judaism, including the "Haskalah" i.e. Jewish assimilation. In other words, Jews have been influenced by the Sabbateans and don't even know it.
That is their tactic. They don't advocate a Satanic kingdom. They gently steer you that way by questioning the existence of God, by demanding "sexual liberation," "independence" for women, "internationalism," "diversity" and "religious tolerance." These all have a hidden agenda: to undermine "all collective forces except our own."
SEXUAL EXCESS AS A RELIGION
We are told "free sex" is "progressive and modern." In fact, the Sabbatean sect has indulged in wife sharing, sex orgies, adultery and incest for more than 350 years. They also promoted interracial sex. They have partly inducted us into their cult.
Antelman cites the proceedings of a rabbinical court where Shmuel, son of Shlomo tearfully confessed he had rejected the Torah and had encouraged his wife to have sex several times with Hershel. "I am guilty. She did not want to." (111)
Sexual abandon is characteristic of Communism, a direct outgrowth of Sabbateanism. . Jacob Frank pimped his beautiful wife to recruit influential men. Female members of the Communist Party were used in the same way. Adam Weiskaupt, the founder of the Illuminati, got his sister-in-law pregnant.
A pertinent anecdote: In his book, "The Other Side of Deception," Mossad defector Victor Ostrovsky described how the Mossad relax. At a party, the staff, including many unmarried young females, congregated around a pool, totally naked.
THE "HOLOCAUST"
The influence of the Sabbatean conspiracy is hidden in plain sight. For example, the term "Holocaust" is used without regard to its true meaning. Rabbi Antelman states that well before World War Two, the term meant "burnt offering" as in sacrifice. (p.199)
He quotes Bruno Bettleheim who says "calling the most callous, most brutal, most horrid. most heinous mass murder a 'burnt offering' is a sacrilege, a profanation of God and man." (205)
Whose sacrifice was it? For what purpose? Obviously, it has something to do with the Sabbateans' occult practice. Every time we use that word, we unwittingly join in their sacrilege.
According to Antelman, the Sabbateans hated Jews and sought their extinction. He cites rabbis who warned as far back as 1750 that if the Jews didn't stop the Sabbateans, they would be destroyed by them. (209)
And indeed when some Jews tried to save European Jewry from genocide, Antelman says "the conservative and reform communities [in the US] went their merry way ignoring these activities. So called establishment organizations like the American Jewish Congress, American Jewish Committee, and B'nai Brith did virtually nothing." (217)
INTERMARRIAGE
Sabbateans only marry within their demonic sect. They often marry rich, influential Gentiles. Thus, the Fourth Baron Rothschild (Jacob's) mother was not Jewish nor is his wife.
Another example is Al Gore's daughter Karenna's 1997 marriage to Andrew Schiff, the great grandson of Jacob Schiff. Gore's father was a Senator sponsored by Armand Hammer (Occidental Petroleum) whose own father was the founder of the American Communist party. Like Hitlery and Dubya, Al Gore is another Illuminati agent.
CONCLUSION
Mankind is in the grip of a vicious Satanic cult whose power is so great, they can make their war against humanity seem normal and inevitable. Even when their plot is exposed, they can convince everyone that it is racist and in bad taste to believe it. They have men fixated on porn while they erect a police state.
Western society is morally bankrupt. This elaborate cult network controls politics, information and culture. Most leaders are dupes or traitors. The "Intelligentsia" has been bribed while the public is distracted and lives in a fool's paradise.
Like most nations and religions, Jews have been subverted from within. Zionists are pawns of the Sabbateans who used the "holocaust" to engineer the creation of Israel. Millions of Jews been "sacrificed" to create a Sabbatean Homeland, a "burnt offering" to Satan.
God gave man Life: a Miracle full of inherent Beauty and Meaning. He gave us everything we need to develop according to his Plan.
But people who think limitless power and wealth are better than infinite love have hijacked humanity. They want to spoil our Divine Rendezvous and enslave us instead. This is the real meaning of our politics and our time.
http://www.henrymakow.com/the_satanic_cult_that_rules_th.html
The Satanic Cult That Rules the World
October 16, 2007
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
"How can one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight unless...God had delivered them into enemy hands?" Deuteronomy 32:30
"Either convert to Islam or die." This was the choice the Turkish Sultan put to Sabbatai Zevi, self-proclaimed Jewish "Messiah" in 1666.
By only pretending to convert, Zevi resorted to a common practice. But Zevi was not an ordinary Jew. He led a popular heresy, based on a satanic strain of Cabalism. The rabbis had denounced him and his followers.
After his "conversion," over a million followers, who later included financiers like the Rothschilds, imitated his example. But they didn't just pretend to be Muslims or Christians. They pretended to be Jews as well.
Communist defector Bella Dodd revealed that during the 1930's the Communist Party had 1100 members join the Catholic Priesthood. They became Bishops, Cardinals and possibly Popes.
By adopting this chameleon strategy, this satanic cult infiltrated and subverted most governments and religions, and established an invisible tyranny without drawing much attention. In the words of the gifted researcher Clifford Shack:
"Through infiltration, stealth and cunning, this invisible network has come to rule us all. Forty-one years after Shabbatai Zevi's death, in 1717, they would infiltrate Masonry guilds in England and establish Freemasonry.... [Zevi's successor] Jacob Frank would have a great impact on the inner core of Freemasonry known as the Illuminati, formed in 1776. Freemasonry would become the hidden force behind events like the [American, French and Russian] revolutions, the creations of the U.N. & Israel, both World Wars (including the Holocaust!), and the assassinations of the Kennedy brothers who, together with their father, tried to thwart the efforts of the network on American soil.
Sabbatean/Frankists, also referred to as the "Cult of the All-Seeing Eye" (look on the back of your one dollar bill to begin to understand their influence in YOUR life), are political and religious chameleons. They are everywhere...there is power. They are the good guys AND the bad guys. The World War Two era is a prime example. The following leaders were members of the "Cult of the All-Seeing Eye" (Sabbatean/Frankists): Franklin D. Roosevelt; Winston Churchill; Adolph Hitler; Eugenio Pacelli (Pope Pius XII); Francisco Franco; Benito Mussolini; Hirohito and Mao Tse-Tung."
IMPLICATIONS
If Mr. Shack is correct, historians, educators and journalists collaborate by upholding a false reality and distracting us from the truth. Our world, our perception of the human experience, are shaped by an occult secret society. Our culture is an elaborate psy-op.
Obviously, the Sabbateans and their descendants should consume our attention. Instead, they are hidden from view. They were decisive in the so-called "Enlightenment," "secularism" and "modernism," which are but baby steps to their Satanism.
According to Rabbi Marvin Antelman, they believe sin is holy and should be practised for its own sake. Since the Messiah will come when people either become righteous or totally corrupt, the Sabbateans opted for debauchery: "Since we cannot all be saints, let us all be sinners."
Their blasphemous benediction "who permits the forbidden" later became the Illuminist "do as thou wilt" the expression of their "religious" feeling. Totally amoral, they believe the "end justifies the means." ("To Eliminate the Opiate,"Vol. 2 p. 87)
In 1756, Jacob Frank and his followers were excommunicated by the rabbis. Antelman says the Sabbateans were behind the Reform, Liberal and Revolutionary movements of the Nineteenth century. They were also behind the Reform and Conservative movements in Judaism, including the "Haskalah" i.e. Jewish assimilation. In other words, Jews have been influenced by the Sabbateans and don't even know it.
That is their tactic. They don't advocate a Satanic kingdom. They gently steer you that way by questioning the existence of God, by demanding "sexual liberation," "independence" for women, "internationalism," "diversity" and "religious tolerance." These all have a hidden agenda: to undermine "all collective forces except our own."
SEXUAL EXCESS AS A RELIGION
We are told "free sex" is "progressive and modern." In fact, the Sabbatean sect has indulged in wife sharing, sex orgies, adultery and incest for more than 350 years. They also promoted interracial sex. They have partly inducted us into their cult.
Antelman cites the proceedings of a rabbinical court where Shmuel, son of Shlomo tearfully confessed he had rejected the Torah and had encouraged his wife to have sex several times with Hershel. "I am guilty. She did not want to." (111)
Sexual abandon is characteristic of Communism, a direct outgrowth of Sabbateanism. . Jacob Frank pimped his beautiful wife to recruit influential men. Female members of the Communist Party were used in the same way. Adam Weiskaupt, the founder of the Illuminati, got his sister-in-law pregnant.
A pertinent anecdote: In his book, "The Other Side of Deception," Mossad defector Victor Ostrovsky described how the Mossad relax. At a party, the staff, including many unmarried young females, congregated around a pool, totally naked.
THE "HOLOCAUST"
The influence of the Sabbatean conspiracy is hidden in plain sight. For example, the term "Holocaust" is used without regard to its true meaning. Rabbi Antelman states that well before World War Two, the term meant "burnt offering" as in sacrifice. (p.199)
He quotes Bruno Bettleheim who says "calling the most callous, most brutal, most horrid. most heinous mass murder a 'burnt offering' is a sacrilege, a profanation of God and man." (205)
Whose sacrifice was it? For what purpose? Obviously, it has something to do with the Sabbateans' occult practice. Every time we use that word, we unwittingly join in their sacrilege.
According to Antelman, the Sabbateans hated Jews and sought their extinction. He cites rabbis who warned as far back as 1750 that if the Jews didn't stop the Sabbateans, they would be destroyed by them. (209)
And indeed when some Jews tried to save European Jewry from genocide, Antelman says "the conservative and reform communities [in the US] went their merry way ignoring these activities. So called establishment organizations like the American Jewish Congress, American Jewish Committee, and B'nai Brith did virtually nothing." (217)
INTERMARRIAGE
Sabbateans only marry within their demonic sect. They often marry rich, influential Gentiles. Thus, the Fourth Baron Rothschild (Jacob's) mother was not Jewish nor is his wife.
Another example is Al Gore's daughter Karenna's 1997 marriage to Andrew Schiff, the great grandson of Jacob Schiff. Gore's father was a Senator sponsored by Armand Hammer (Occidental Petroleum) whose own father was the founder of the American Communist party. Like Hitlery and Dubya, Al Gore is another Illuminati agent.
CONCLUSION
Mankind is in the grip of a vicious Satanic cult whose power is so great, they can make their war against humanity seem normal and inevitable. Even when their plot is exposed, they can convince everyone that it is racist and in bad taste to believe it. They have men fixated on porn while they erect a police state.
Western society is morally bankrupt. This elaborate cult network controls politics, information and culture. Most leaders are dupes or traitors. The "Intelligentsia" has been bribed while the public is distracted and lives in a fool's paradise.
Like most nations and religions, Jews have been subverted from within. Zionists are pawns of the Sabbateans who used the "holocaust" to engineer the creation of Israel. Millions of Jews been "sacrificed" to create a Sabbatean Homeland, a "burnt offering" to Satan.
God gave man Life: a Miracle full of inherent Beauty and Meaning. He gave us everything we need to develop according to his Plan.
But people who think limitless power and wealth are better than infinite love have hijacked humanity. They want to spoil our Divine Rendezvous and enslave us instead. This is the real meaning of our politics and our time.
http://www.henrymakow.com/the_satanic_cult_that_rules_th.html
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That pretty much sums it up pps, with the caveat of course henry is not a christian, so his divine rendevous won't work out too well either.
he is a Kanuck tho.
yup. all about those "divine sparks", eh?
and having 'all things in common' meant wives and such also.
the US came pretty close with Bishop Mittance Romney...
This from an Anglican Liberal historian - do with it what you will. Fascinating stuff that Judais....I mean Mormonism
Many Wives, Many Gods, Many Personalities: Inside the Schizophrenic Belief Structure of the Man Who May Become the First Non-Christian President
[Translate]
Webster G. Tarpley
McClendon Group: National Press Club
TARPLEY.net
November 5, 2012
Worse Than Bush: Romney’s Baggage Includes Mormon Oath of Vengeance Against USA and Joseph Smith’s Apocalyptic White Horse Prophecy for War with Russia
[Translate]
Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
The Meria Heller Show
November 1, 2012
http://tarpley.net/
Ostrovsky told us alot. He's on Youtube telling how easy it was for the takeover.
The Bolshies are hard at it....right here in North America. Just waiting to torture ever'body.
Practising in Gitmo and such. They like that stuff.
All the blood upon the earth.....
he is a Kanuck tho.
yup. all about those "divine sparks", eh?
and having 'all things in common' meant wives and such also.
the US came pretty close with Bishop Mittance Romney...
This from an Anglican Liberal historian - do with it what you will. Fascinating stuff that Judais....I mean Mormonism
Many Wives, Many Gods, Many Personalities: Inside the Schizophrenic Belief Structure of the Man Who May Become the First Non-Christian President
[Translate]
Webster G. Tarpley
McClendon Group: National Press Club
TARPLEY.net
November 5, 2012
Worse Than Bush: Romney’s Baggage Includes Mormon Oath of Vengeance Against USA and Joseph Smith’s Apocalyptic White Horse Prophecy for War with Russia
[Translate]
Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
The Meria Heller Show
November 1, 2012
http://tarpley.net/
Ostrovsky told us alot. He's on Youtube telling how easy it was for the takeover.
The Bolshies are hard at it....right here in North America. Just waiting to torture ever'body.
Practising in Gitmo and such. They like that stuff.
All the blood upon the earth.....
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This response to Makow was poignant...
Egregore. I (intentionally) have as expansive a vocabulary as anyone, but this was a welcome addition.
This would be chilling if I wasn't already permanently goose-bumped by the whole wretched and diabolical mess.
Do you remember the story I told you some time ago about my encounter -while I was a student in Geneva/Switzerland- with Leah, a Jewish girl from a rich private-banking family connected to the very top of the banking "elites"? She told me that most people of her milieu didn`t believe in God but rather in a supernatural being collectively created throughout the ages by way of black magic (kabbalah)? This being was supposed to serve their creators rather than to be served by them. This whole conversation started when I innocently asked Leah if the star of David on her neck meant she was believing in God and she replied something like "we believe in a god but we call it an egregore and it serves us rather than being served by us". After that, she never spoke about that to me again.
When I had this conversation with Leah, about three decades ago, the kabbalah was a very secret subject. That was the first time I myself heard the word "egregore". Today, people like Madonna and other half-nuts from the cosmopolitan (Jewish or not) jet-set are getting fond of the kabbalah and a lot of information is available on the web. So, we can learn for instance that the egregores are one of the central part of this black magic and that they are supposed to be man-made and serve their creators with supernatural powers. We can also learn that the egregores have to be fed in order to stay alive and that the most convenient way to feed them is to sacrifice them human fear and human lifes. If it is true, I cannot help but imagine that, some egregores must be very fat today with the continuous sacrifices from Palestine or Iraq... I guess that, from the outside, it is difficult to make a difference between someone invoking and sacrificiating to an evil god called Satan or Lucifer and someone invoking and sacrificiating to a supernatural slave supposed to have been created by themselves and called "egregore"...
Egregore. I (intentionally) have as expansive a vocabulary as anyone, but this was a welcome addition.
This would be chilling if I wasn't already permanently goose-bumped by the whole wretched and diabolical mess.
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PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:...a supernatural slave supposed to have been created by themselves and called "egregore"...
Golem?
Mind controlled assassin?
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Simply from wiki...
Egregore (also egregor) is an occult concept representing a "thoughtform" or "collective group mind", an autonomous psychic entity made up of, and influencing, the thoughts of a group of people. The symbiotic relationship between an egregore and its group has been compared to the more recent, non-occult concepts of the corporation (as a legal entity) and the meme.
The concept of the egregore as a group thoughtform was developed in works of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and the Rosicrucians[3] and has been referenced by writers such as Valentin Tomberg.
A well known concept of the egregore is the GOTOS of the Fraternitas Saturni.
Gaetan Delaforge, in Gnosis magazine in 1987, defines an egregore as a kind of group mind which is created when people consciously come together for a common purpose."
The concept has enjoyed renewed popularity among practitioners of chaos magic, following the Corporate Metabolism series of articles by Paco Xander Nathan, which were published in 2001.
The result of a synergy of thought could be the most concise description of this state of mind.
The notion of "egregor" also appears in Daniil Andreyev's Roza Mira, where it represents the shining cloud-like spirit associated with the Church. It is a common belief in Russia that the word "egregor" originated from this spiritual book.
The Russian occult movement DEIR, led by Dmitry Verischchagin, also employs this concept.
Egregore (also egregor) is an occult concept representing a "thoughtform" or "collective group mind", an autonomous psychic entity made up of, and influencing, the thoughts of a group of people. The symbiotic relationship between an egregore and its group has been compared to the more recent, non-occult concepts of the corporation (as a legal entity) and the meme.
The concept of the egregore as a group thoughtform was developed in works of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and the Rosicrucians[3] and has been referenced by writers such as Valentin Tomberg.
A well known concept of the egregore is the GOTOS of the Fraternitas Saturni.
Gaetan Delaforge, in Gnosis magazine in 1987, defines an egregore as a kind of group mind which is created when people consciously come together for a common purpose."
The concept has enjoyed renewed popularity among practitioners of chaos magic, following the Corporate Metabolism series of articles by Paco Xander Nathan, which were published in 2001.
The result of a synergy of thought could be the most concise description of this state of mind.
The notion of "egregor" also appears in Daniil Andreyev's Roza Mira, where it represents the shining cloud-like spirit associated with the Church. It is a common belief in Russia that the word "egregor" originated from this spiritual book.
The Russian occult movement DEIR, led by Dmitry Verischchagin, also employs this concept.
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From a fruit loop source...
In an occult or magical context, an Egregore is the general imprint that encircles a group entity. It is the summary of the physical, emotional, mental and spiritual energies generated by two or more people vibrating together towards the same goal; being a sub-product of our personal and collective creative process as co-creators of our reality.
An Egregore has developed to the point of attaining an independent existence as an entity itself or as an intentionally created entity, such as a servitor, that has grown in power well beyond its original design. To a non-religious practitioner of magic, an Egregore and a god, or goddess, would be interchangeable terms. To a religious practitioner, an Egregore would be just below the level of a god or goddess.
http://humanityhealing.net/2011/05/the-real-meaning-of-egregore/
In an occult or magical context, an Egregore is the general imprint that encircles a group entity. It is the summary of the physical, emotional, mental and spiritual energies generated by two or more people vibrating together towards the same goal; being a sub-product of our personal and collective creative process as co-creators of our reality.
An Egregore has developed to the point of attaining an independent existence as an entity itself or as an intentionally created entity, such as a servitor, that has grown in power well beyond its original design. To a non-religious practitioner of magic, an Egregore and a god, or goddess, would be interchangeable terms. To a religious practitioner, an Egregore would be just below the level of a god or goddess.
http://humanityhealing.net/2011/05/the-real-meaning-of-egregore/
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Strangelove wrote:Holocaustianity.
I hate to LOL cuz it's only funny-sad.
Create that God of one's own temporal dominion by one's own logos.
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the general imprint that encircles a group entity. It is the summary of
the physical, emotional, mental and spiritual energies generated by two
or more people vibrating together towards the same goal
Political Zionism.
Racial (pseudo) Supremacism.
World Religious Government.
New World Order.
....the spirit of antichrist.
They can call it "majik" if they want. I don't believe in magic, its just rejection of Christ and one wicked thing leading to another reaching the inevitable conclusion.
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Strangelove wrote:
Political Zionism.
Racial (pseudo) Supremacism.
World Religious Government.
New World Order.
....the spirit of antichrist.
They can call it "majik" if they want. I don't believe in magic, its just rejection of Christ and one wicked thing leading to another reaching the inevitable conclusion.
Yep. And when is ignorance willful apostasy within the professed church?
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So... to what extent have all the sectarian factions of Christendom "created" an egregore as their G/god?
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PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:So... to what extent have all the sectarian factions of Christendom "created" an egregore as their G/god?
Basically by placing something non-divine on a podium that should only be occupied by Jesus.
Christian Zionists place the nation state of israel there.
Catholics place the pope there.
Word of Faith folks place themselves there.
etc...etc...
Of course its just the idea of the thing they place there not the object itself, therefore the "groupthink" creating the egregore rather than the thing itself....
...I guess?
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Before starting, the author would like to express thanks to Wr. Giovanni Lombardo for his assistance in defining and bringing this article to the readers.
If you have never heard of the term “egregore”, join the crowd. Many people have never heard the word, and until recently, that crowd INCLUDED the author. A year ago, while on The Lodgeroom US, a fervent antimasonic… person, named Thomas “Skip” Sampson, tossed out an unsupported and off topic slander to the effect that we masons should go back to working on evoking our egregore in lodge.
At the time, the author was stunned, never before having heard the word. A quick internet search revealed nothing, and not having any information on the subject, a research project was born, and thence this paper.
At the time, very little was available, though that has changed recently. One of the problems is that egregore is spelled two different ways, with a “E” at the end, and without. This made is difficult at first to find information.
So, what is an egregore, and how does it relate to freemasonry?
Let start with a simple explanation of what an egregore is, or is reputed to be, and then move on from there. On this subject, there are various opinions, especially among “occultists” who seem to be the primary authors on the nature of the egregore. Following are the four primary occultist definitions:
An energized astral form produced consciously or unconsciously by human agency. In particular, (a) a strongly characterized form, usually an archetypal image, produced by the imaginative and emotional energies of a religious or magical group collectively, or (b) an astral shape of any kind, deliberately formulated by a magician to carry a specific force.[1]
…from a Greek word
meaning “watcher.” A thought-form created by will and visualization. A group egregore is the distinctive energy of a specific group of magicians who are working together, creating and building the same thought-form or energy-form.[2]
Any symbolic pattern that has served as a focus for human emotion and energy will build up an egregore of its own over
time, and the more energy that is put into such a pattern, the more potent the egregore that will form around it. The gods and goddesses of every religion, past and present, are at the centers of vast egregore charged with specific kinds of power. This power is defined by, and contacted through, the traditional symbolism of the deity in question.[3]
An egregore is an angel, sometimes called watcher; in Hebrew the word is ir, and the concept appears in The Book of Enoch.... Thus, Irim, the city of the Nephilim is again linked with the Book of Enoch, since the Nephilim, according to that Book, were the sons of the Irim (the egregores.)....Although the Irim, the egregores, are angels on both sides of the camp - fallen angels as well as faithful ones.[4]
René Guénon, a prolific writer on Masonic philosophy offers the following:
First of all, we must point out that we have never used the word ‘egregore’ to designate what could properly be called a ‘collective entity’; the reason for this is that the term is wholly untraditional and only represents one of the fantasies of modern occultist language.
The first person to use it (egregore) this way was Eliphas Levy, and if our memory is exact, it was he who, to justify this meaning gave it the improbable Latin etymology, deriving it from grex, ‘flock’, whereas the word is purely Greek and has never signified anything more than watcher.[5]
It appears therefore that, according to Guénon that an egregore is a manifestation of psychic energy, as opposed to a spiritual force as the occultists would define it. Now that the author has completely confused you, let us proceed to dissect what we have as “definitions” to see if we can come to an understanding of the egregore, and its “place” in freemasonry.
Of the definitions offered, that of Guénon seems to be the one that actually relates to masonry, while the others relate to religious/occult faith. The egregore is a psychic entity, existing between the material and the spiritual, in contact with both. It is the creation of the psychic will of the members of a group, and exists as a connection to the divine.
As we work rituals, the focused mental energy creates and invokes the egregore to fulfill the need of the group. An egregore is not a magical creature, it is not self aware, and is not a Djin, to carry out wishes. The egregore serves as a conduit, a nexus, to connect the group that created/invoked it to the spiritual.
Some egregores are temporary, while some, like the egregore of a lodge, a church, or a country, are the result of the continuous will that creates them, and this will also sustains them. The egregore of freemasonry has existed for centuries, and is the result of the focused will to connect with the spiritual from millions of men.
An egregore is the psychic “entity”. All members of a group, whether it is a club, your family, your lodge, a faith, a political party, a country, or even a single person, are united with the egregore of that group through a psychic connection. As a result, and given the nature of society, we are often included in the sphere of several egregores at once.
The strength and ability of the egregore to aid and assist the members of the group grows over time and through numbers, by drawing support from the members constituting it and through their repeated actions maintain its power. The egregore, in turn, invokes the immaterial and raises us from the material, connecting us to the subtle worlds.
Where the intent is positive and spiritual, the effect of the egregore consists in conveying spirituality to the members as in the initiatic process of the lodge. The intent is to divest the candidate of the profane and connect him to the spiritual, and for most masons, that effect is felt and received most profoundly. To the contrary, in the case of other groups, especially the counter-initiatic ones – which adopt rites and symbols to attain profane or negative goals – the egregore can be quite destructive to the lives and spirits of those members.[6]
Each individual who is involved in a group is influenced by these egregores. For those that reach for a spiritual connection, the egregore assists and facilitates that connection. This process is unconscious, but is intensified through the initiatic process, which is designed to open the mind to the spiritual through the egregore.
A symbolic representation of this may be had in the examination of the Star of David, an emblem of the divine. The top triangle points the heavens, and to the spirit. The bottom triangle points down, to the material and profane. United, they form a new entity, the six-pointed star that represents the unity of the two, from material to the spirit, connection to the divine.
An example of this we are familiar with in Freemasonry is the Compasses and Square. The compass represents the male, the spiritual energy, while the square represents the material. The compasses enclose and define the spiritual, as in the point within a circle, while the square defines the mortal, the material world. United, these two symbols, like the triangles, which form the Star of David, an emblem the represents the divine, so, too, does the square and compasses united, represent the divine, as is shown by the letter G in the middle.
So, the nature of the egregore has been known since time immemorial, as shown above. Its function is that of a guide, and intercessory, to conduct the group members to the spirit and connect them with it. Some groups are connected more powerfully from the profane and mortal side to the spiritual than others, some less so, but to each group according to its intent. As with all things, it is the intent that matters, not the form.
Guénon goes on to state, in reference to the egregore’s influence:
Man has, however, to point out that the Egregore “can never transcend the individual domain since, in the final analysis, it is only a resultant of the component individualities, nor, consequently, can it go beyond the psychic order; now all that is, only psychic can have no effective and direct relationship with initiation since this latter consists essentially in the transmission of a spiritual influence meant to produce effects of a similar spiritual order, thus transcendent with respect to the individuality, whence one obviously must conclude that whatever is able to render effective the initially virtual action of this influence, must itself necessarily have a supra-individual and thus, if one may put it so, a supra-collective character.”[7]
In a lodge of freemasons, the egregore is strengthened by time and experience, and the will and intention of good men. The strength of the egregore is patent in the effect the ritual has on the candidate, and effect that cannot be accounted for simply in the execution of the ritual itself.
We have all experienced the thrill, the exhilaration of the initiation, and the emotional high that carries us for days afterward as the flame is kindled in our breast. This is the spirit the egregore connects us with that fills us and carries us. It is this spirit that breathes in us, inspires us with brotherly love, relief, truth and charity.
The spirit is from the divine. The egregore is the psychic link between the mortal to the spirit. The mason is inspired by the breath of the spirit.
And thus: freemasonry.
References
1 Planetary Magick, Denning & Phillips, (Llewellyn Publications)
2 Golden Dawn Glossary http://www.thelemicgnosticism.org/aa/contacts.htm
3 John Michael Greer, from: Inside a Magical Lodge
4 Egregore by L.S. Bernstein, http://www.crcsite.org/egregor.htm
5 Spiritual Influences and Egregores by René Guénon, in Initiation and Spiritual Realization, Sophia Perennis, Hillsdale, N. Y. p37, paragraph 2
6 So it was in some Nazi esoteric groups, such as Thule or Vril. Also http://www.harare.unesco.org/hivaids/webfiles/Electronic%20Versions/malawi%20lifeskills.doc
7 Spiritual Influences and Egregores by René Guénon, in Initiation and Spiritual Realization, Sophia Perennis, Hillsdale, N. Y. p119
May the blessings of heaven rest upon us and all regular Masons, may brotherly love prevail, and every moral and social virtue, cement us.
http://beaconofmasoniclight.blogspot.com/2007/09/what-is-egregore.html?m=1
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Basically by placing something non-divine on a podium that should only be occupied by Jesus.
Christian Zionists place the nation state of israel there.
Catholics place the pope there.
Word of Faith folks place themselves there.
etc...etc...
Of course its just the idea of the thing they place there not the object itself, therefore the "groupthink" creating the egregore rather than the thing itself....
...I guess?
Yep. And I'd say all the varied sectarian dialectics have created a mini-pantheon of one supposed God. "Free" will is a huge culprit.
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Reminds me of this stuff:
http://www.christianforums.net/showthread.php?t=32255&page=1
Change agents, purpose driven, Peter Drucker and all that malarky.
http://www.christianforums.net/showthread.php?t=32255&page=1
Change agents, purpose driven, Peter Drucker and all that malarky.
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Strangelove wrote:The kinda stuff that goes on in cell churches then yeah?
And it's alive and well within the church walls as well, for sure. Cell groups just get to make up all their own rules as they go along.
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Strangelove wrote:Reminds me of this stuff:
http://www.christianforums.net/showthread.php?t=32255&page=1
Change agents, purpose driven, Peter Drucker and all that malarky.
Yep. An egregore. Gaining perceived validity by growing participation.
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https://christian-wilderness.forumvi.com/t124-common-purpose
https://christian-wilderness.forumvi.com/t66-communitarianism
the egregoire is in these threads.
it's just group think - dialectical transformation.
once the group has been herded into thinking they made a collective decision/agreement, almost nothing can change their minds - they become "invested" in protecting the egregoire.
This guy is a heavy-hitter in all of it: Dr. Amitai Etzioni.
Guys have gone sleeping wit the fishes for asking too many questions about him and his power in DC.
scripture does tell us demons are real, i suppose they could hand around and pump suggestion into a group then somehow gain power by it. I know the occultists sure think so.
read (or listen, MP3) to The Occult Philosophy - Michael Hoffman - 1987 - Anaheim Speech (Mind Control, Revelation of the Method, etc.)
the rabbis have their GOLEM....same diff.
only with the golem, they kill it later, after it has done it's work: Xtian Zionism anybody?
https://christian-wilderness.forumvi.com/t66-communitarianism
the egregoire is in these threads.
it's just group think - dialectical transformation.
once the group has been herded into thinking they made a collective decision/agreement, almost nothing can change their minds - they become "invested" in protecting the egregoire.
This guy is a heavy-hitter in all of it: Dr. Amitai Etzioni.
Guys have gone sleeping wit the fishes for asking too many questions about him and his power in DC.
scripture does tell us demons are real, i suppose they could hand around and pump suggestion into a group then somehow gain power by it. I know the occultists sure think so.
read (or listen, MP3) to The Occult Philosophy - Michael Hoffman - 1987 - Anaheim Speech (Mind Control, Revelation of the Method, etc.)
the rabbis have their GOLEM....same diff.
only with the golem, they kill it later, after it has done it's work: Xtian Zionism anybody?
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