Re: Stationary Earth

by PneumaPsucheSoma Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:22 pm

As for the schizmatic comment...

My Senior Pastor is a great man of God and has labored faithfully for over 20 years to build a local body of believers. This began as a mission work from his previous Pastorate, and he dual-Pastored for many years while reaching the lost and undone without a building or resources. It was parched earth, but he and a few others tilled it and reached out to those that other churches wouldn't. He's the reason for our Outreach and Recovery Ministries, and he has financially supported many things personally through a business his wife runs for them, giving the profits when others couldn't or wouldn't give.

I freely speak to other staff and members individually about Eschatology, and they come to me with questions. I've made it very clear I'm not just NON-Dispy, but ANTI-Dispy. I just mean I won't undermine the Pastor personally by using the church to which he's been a faithful shepherd as my own platform for a captive audience.

by zone Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:42 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:As for the schizmatic comment...

My Senior Pastor is a great man of God and has labored faithfully for over 20 years to build a local body of believers. This began as a mission work from his previous Pastorate, and he dual-Pastored for many years while reaching the lost and undone without a building or resources. It was parched earth, but he and a few others tilled it and reached out to those that other churches wouldn't. He's the reason for our Outreach and Recovery Ministries, and he has financially supported many things personally through a business his wife runs for them, giving the profits when others couldn't or wouldn't give.

I freely speak to other staff and members individually about Eschatology, and they come to me with questions. I've made it very clear I'm not just NON-Dispy, but ANTI-Dispy. I just mean I won't undermine the Pastor personally by using the church to which he's been a faithful shepherd as my own platform for a captive audience.

supercool.
he sounds awesome.
i love this part: I've made it very clear I'm not just NON-Dispy, but ANTI-Dispy.

but this part even better when the 2 go together: I just mean I won't undermine the Pastor personally by using the church to which he's been a faithful shepherd as my own platform for a captive audience

its SO NEAT that a healthy body can still function and work together with open differences.

welp, ttyl bud. will see your writing at the cosmos place.
am going to be posting at Big Bang on how the judaics (pharisees) + sympathizers have morphed/disguised and are here there and everywhere: with the old serpent's scrolls ever under their arms as they scurry about making plans.
amazing really, they way they covered every angle. filled every whole.

the big problem for them is that (just as Rev says) the nations, having been weakend and assaulted for so long are just gonna get sick of it and have a shooting war.

course that's the only place this could go.
but we gotta have thefalse flags and stoopid fake messiah and all the hokus pokus and beheadings and junk first.

my goal: TELL THE GOSPEL! BE SAVED!

THEN WE GET TO GO HOME!
JESUS!

by **strangelove** Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:50 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:Here's what GitRDunn is saying...

If the Earth does not rotate the observations do not match. Go to that link you provided for us and do some experiments like I did. If the Earth is not rotating, then the Sun revolves around the Earth once every 24 hours. When you count the sun going around the Earth as one day, and then watch how long a planet is visible from one location on Earth, it is not only visible for approximately 12 hours, as we see occur each night. I described tests I did with Mars and Jupiter in post #130. Try it out for yourself if you don't believe me.

Ya what he's confused about is.....he's not considering the DAILY ROTATION of the aether, which takes the sun AND PLANETS all the way around the Earth in one 24 hour period. Of course jupiter is never visible for 6 days...lolz....

....that animation model we use is ONLY to show people that the planets have exactly the same motions and relationships/orbits regardless of what is at the centre of the OUR LOCAL system. It obviously doesnt take into account the daily rotation of the aether in the entire universe, which takes the sun and planets allllllllll the way around our earth each day.

This is why I keep saying to you to tell him that the WHOLE UNIVERSE is spinning around the Earth in 24 hours (or just less in the sidereal day) while these primary planetary orbits are going on.

Do you understand PPS?

by PneumaPsucheSoma Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:40 pm

Strangelove wrote:

Ya what he's confused about is.....he's not considering the DAILY ROTATION of the aether, which takes the sun AND PLANETS all the way around the Earth in one 24 hour period. Of course jupiter is never visible for 6 days...lolz....

....that animation model we use is ONLY to show people that the planets have exactly the same motions and relationships/orbits regardless of what is at the centre of the OUR LOCAL system. It obviously doesnt take into account the daily rotation of the aether in the entire universe, which takes the sun and planets allllllllll the way around our earth each day.

This is why I keep saying to you to tell him that the WHOLE UNIVERSE is spinning around the Earth in 24 hours (or just less in the sidereal day) while these primary planetary orbits are going on.

Do you understand PPS?

I do now. ROFLOL at mahself.

by zone Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:46 pm

Strangelove wrote:

Ya what he's confused about is.....he's not considering the DAILY ROTATION of the aether, which takes the sun AND PLANETS all the way around the Earth in one 24 hour period. Of course jupiter is never visible for 6 days...lolz....

....that animation model we use is ONLY to show people that the planets have exactly the same motions and relationships/orbits regardless of what is at the centre of the OUR LOCAL system. It obviously doesnt take into account the daily rotation of the aether in the entire universe, which takes the sun and planets allllllllll the way around our earth each day.

This is why I keep saying to you to tell him that the WHOLE UNIVERSE is spinning around the Earth in 24 hours (or just less in the sidereal day) while these primary planetary orbits are going on.

Do you understand PPS?

i do (i think).

ingredients for experiment:

- a big glass fishbowl or baking bowl filled with clear facial gel (cosmetics product) or similar - clear for viewing, and heavy enough to suspend the beads in place in the universe (bowl)

- glass/porcelain beads of varying sizes.

- rubber ball for earth.

- rod to insert into rubber ball to keep ball stationary.

............

insert rod into rubber ball, then place inside glass universe, making the rubber ball the centre of the universe or bowl.

fill the bowl with gel and drop beads in per planets and stuff.

HOLD EARTH STATIONARY BY HOLDING ROD, THEN TURN THE UNIVERSE!

lol!

eerr...is that silly, Doc?

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:22 am

zone wrote:
eerr...is that silly, Doc?

No dollface, its not silly.

Newton's Bucket

...

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:39 am

Gitrunn says the view from earth is wrong for both models BUT in his model he has the Earth do a 360 degree rotation on its own axis (with a wobble) in 24 hours, with the stars and sun fixed.

In the geo model, we have the Earth fixed, and the stars and sun (with planets) being carried by a 360 degree rotation of THE UNIVERSE (with a wobble).

Now please ask him....WHATS THE DIFFERENCE??

Imagine you are on Earth, according to your senses...the universe is spinning around once every 24 hours.

Now imagine your on a star. Now it looks like the Earth is rotating once every 24 hours.

IT's THE SAME THING!

It's a simple co-ordinate change AGAIN.

Ask him if all the renowned astronomers who say there is no raw difference in the two models are just.....buffoons?...cuz they never noticed this planetary discrepency that he thinks he's found?

by PneumaPsucheSoma Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:52 pm

Look at shepherdsword's latest posts. Sagnac convinced him of the aether and he's a big Tesla fan. And all this after lambasting me (though with a humble recantation).

He's not convinced about Airy and other points, but the lights came on for him about the aether and ignoring evidence because of preconceived views.

by zone Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:34 pm

Strangelove wrote:

No dollface, its not silly.

Newton's Bucket

...

that's cool. Doc yer an enyclopedia.

but...isn't everybody trying to explain motion; which is fine; without taking into account the Lord?

Hebrews 1:3

New International Version (©1984)
The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

New Living Translation (©2007)
The Son radiates God's own glory and expresses the very character of God, and he sustains everything by the mighty power of his command. When he had cleansed us from our sins, he sat down in the place of honor at the right hand of the majestic God in heaven.

English Standard Version (©2001)
He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

by PneumaPsucheSoma Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:03 pm

zone wrote:

that's cool. Doc yer an enyclopedia.

but...isn't everybody trying to explain motion; which is fine; without taking into account the Lord?

Hebrews 1:3

New International Version (©1984)
The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

New Living Translation (©2007)
The Son radiates God's own glory and expresses the very character of God, and he sustains everything by the mighty power of his command. When he had cleansed us from our sins, he sat down in the place of honor at the right hand of the majestic God in heaven.

English Standard Version (©2001)
He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

My most favoritest part of this is "by the word of his power" instead of it being "the power of his word". Subtle but huge difference. :-)

by zone Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:11 pm

mornin pps.

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i'm readin' over here.

http://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/235469-Heliocentricity-vs-Geocentricity

had to register to be allowed to see the forum.

its funny cuz for me it seems so simple. maybe its cuz i was lousy in 'science' at skool.

its all very exciting, really, knowing that the Holy Spirit teaches truth. and that we headed for a doctrinal purification before Jesus comes.

*munch munch*

by zone Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:43 pm

A****r:

For example. Beyond a sort of ladybird book definition, I don't understand how an atom bomb works. But I believe that the people who build them do. They've provided me with evidence (very large explosions) so I believe them.

You don't understand how paracetamol works. But you can take it and see that it DOES work, and thus believe the people who say they understand why.

Thus when a bunch of scientists are capable of landing a probe on mars, and they say that it orbits the sun, and so do we, its not "slam dunk orthodoxy" or some kind of philosophical choice, its a reasoned respect for a hypothesis well proven. If the sun orbited the earth, the pheonix probe would not have landed because the positions would be all off.

If i asked you to prove your hand was at the end of your arm, all you'd have to do was look for it there and there's your proof. They looked for a planet in the position which the heliocentric model said it would be. They found it there. Is that not proof enough?

~

this is exactly why we accept everything we are told by 'experts', and the kabbalaists are very well aware of this. they practised and studied for centuries how to convince.

just because someone with a tumor survives after rounds of plutonium and radiation doesn't mean poisoning and burning are the cure for cancer. it just means the person's body survived the attempt to kill everything (including the tumor). that's all that garbage is. and for-profit no less.

people haven't seen the satanic conspiracy behind the veil: that's why they paddle around in the dialogue. if they knew what was in the pool with them...well...

my late husband was super-brain professor. atheist. knew tons. could explain string theory, all of it.

but God was impossible. he would have keeled over if you'd told him he was reurgitating jewish mysticism....LOL.

me: after 9 nine years of digging through the pharisee's trash, i want ZIPPO do with their FABLES...and its so easy to see them where ever they are. there is a common feature surrounding Pharisaic fables: MIDRASH.

endless talk and debate. that's the point.

its only once peep realize the bad guys are really really bad and willing to go to any length to deceive someone has been awakened. til then its like sleeping with the enemy.

but: to counter and keep the gates, they came up with 2 ingenious devices:

1) "antisemite"

when you start pointing out that the leaders in theoretical cosmology are jewish kabbalists they hammer you with #1

2) "conspiracy theorist"

when you start pointing out that the leaders in theoretical cosmology are jewish kabbalists they hammer you with #2

LOL. rinse and repeat.

by zone Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:59 pm

Faith****ne:

I am a strict Bible centered literalist, and know fully well that the correct understanding of Scripture doesn't allow for any type of evolution, cosmic or otherwise....and yet I am a strict Heliocentrist based precisely on CURRENT observational and empirical evidence. When you understand observational astronomy and physics there is no other way to see it except Helio-centered.

uh oh...
if only they understood that the deceivers telescopes and all that trash are FAKE.

ALL computer generated. none of it is real.

CURRENT observational and empirical evidence.

where? show us! from computer generated graphics?
computer modelled theories that spit out images to fit?

SORCERY! don't they know who NASA is ? ROTFLMHO
gonna have to face that one sooner or later pps: the scientists are kabbalists. plain and simple. and Christ-haters. they aint got no truth.

by zone Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:10 pm

Ase***:

Agreed. Without the earth spinning, we lose the inverse kinematics (to use your phrase). The model which successfully put the probe on mars had the earth spinning. If the earth was NOT spinning then that model was wrong and the probe would have missed.

BINGO.

they lied silly billy. they aint no probes n stuff up thar. that's ridiculous. they ran the Apollo Landing out of a single B&W tv at Houston - the world ran its "live" feed off what come over that tv.

lol!

it was just running pretaped film of Masons hopping around in Arizona and stuff.

WE WUZ PUNK'D.

by zone Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:00 am

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The series, taking place from Sunday, Jan. 29 through Feb. 4, will teach how ancient Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism) and modern cosmology intersect and how both of these approaches together can enlighten us. Rabbi David Thomas is excited about the opportunity to host Dr. Smith at Congregation Beth El.

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by zone Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:02 am

AMAZON

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Book Description

Publication Date: October 5, 2006

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http://www.amazon.com/Let-There-Light-Cosmology-Conversation/dp/1577315480

by zone Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:06 am

moving over to BIG BANG thread

by zone Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:34 am

PPS:
Technically, it's about the power to have and control the money and all else.

> Copernican Revolution > Darwinian Revolution > Marxian Revolution > Freudian Revolution = Eschaton Agenda

Gotta fill in the blank. The money comes with it.
..........................

EXCELLENT.
JUST PERFECT.

interesting to see what they will say.
out of curiosity, how many are Christians?
do they know what eschaton means?
even non-christians know in their gut something is coming. something hidden ready to break through.

i love you PPS.

.........

Project Paperclip: Dark side of the Moon

By Andrew Walker
BBC News

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Sixty years ago the US hired Nazi scientists to lead pioneering projects, such as the race to conquer space. These men provided the US with cutting-edge technology which still leads the way today, but at a cost.

The end of World War II saw an intense scramble for Nazi Germany's many technological secrets. The Allies vied to plunder as much equipment and expertise as possible from the rubble of the Thousand Year Reich for themselves, while preventing others from doing the same.

The range of Germany's technical achievement astounded Allied scientific intelligence experts accompanying the invading forces in 1945.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4443934.stm

by **strangelove** Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:11 pm

“There is no planetary observation by which we on Earth can prove the Earth is moving in an orbit around the sun. Thus all Galileo’s discoveries…can be accommodated to the system [in which] the daily rotation of the heavens is communicated to the sun and planets, so that the Earth itself neither rotates nor revolves in an orbit.”

- I. Bernard Cohen, Birth of a New Physics, revised and updated, 1985, p. 78.

by zone Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:16 pm

i see the folks at BF are down to what happens in a vacuum.

LOL. here we go.

by PneumaPsucheSoma Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:23 am

zone wrote:PPS:
Technically, it's about the power to have and control the money and all else.

> Copernican Revolution > Darwinian Revolution > Marxian Revolution > Freudian Revolution = Eschaton Agenda

Gotta fill in the blank. The money comes with it.
..........................

EXCELLENT.
JUST PERFECT.

interesting to see what they will say.

It has spread to a couple of other threads, too. "How old is the world...", "Sharia Law...", and a Freemasonry thread.

The token Jew (beloved and defended, and with the most posts on the board), Fenris made a hilarious comment to which I responded and more. In the Freemasonry thread, Knight Templar is a brilliant 33rd-degree Masonic researcher who voraciously defends the Craft. Check 'em out.

out of curiosity, how many are Christians?

Except for the resident agnostic novelist oscarkipling, all profess to be believers. But they're all Trinis, so who knows?! ROFLMBBHO (BBH=BoBoHeiney).

do they know what eschaton means?

No. I told 'em in one of the other threads I referred to above.

even non-christians know in their gut something is coming. something hidden ready to break through.

i love you PPS

I lub you, too, Sis

Read those other threads on BF. Shepherdsword was nearly cussing me over Geo/Helio. Now he wants Eschaton info and is my best little buddy.

by PneumaPsucheSoma Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:47 am

Doc, I'd love to see you tiptoe into the BF Helio thread and body-slam everybody. I'm limited on time right now, and there are pending posts to respond to. My bwain is mush from dealing with doctors and surgeons on minimal sleep.

I have kept Kabbalah completely out of it for now. Maybe a future in-depth expose will be in order, but I haven't popped the lid yet.

by PneumaPsucheSoma Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:25 am

On BF, PPS said...

Let me be clear. There's an agenda. It's an ancient agenda of the spirit of antichrist, specifically that which came out of Babylon. This war of principalities and powers has been waged for the hearts and minds of men throughout history. It has encompassed many means, including the progression of natural knowledge and technology from early metallurgy to microchips and beyond. The agenda is for world dominance by wresting the creation from its Creator and the stamping out of faith. Faith is siphoned off one generation at a time by gradually replacing that which faith is placed IN.

This began exponentially in earnest with the Copernican Revolution, without which there could be no Darwinian Revolution or viable continued platform for the Marxian Revolution and on to the Freudian Revolution. It's all culminating in the reestablishment of ancient religion, from/by/being Mystery Babylon. The core tenet is the Big Bang and chaos finding order. What has been "established" by modern theoretical science is ages-old religion as prophesied in scripture; and primarily through the 99% of scientists who have no such agenda.

Kinematics are identical if space is the "something" of aether. Forces are theoretical by the same measure of observation as kinematics. Heliocentricity is a Philosophical choice that has been selectively empiricized.

I've spent over a decade digging and verifying, and prayerfully questioning and challenging everything along the way. I know exactly what is happening and how and why, and how it's interwoven all through history back to before the Abrahamic era. It's not "secret gnosis" or arrogance; it's a humble and fervent desire for truth and to prepare for what is coming on a large scale to help others en masse for the impending economic collapses and everything else.

I'm going to proceed according to the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him. Others can trust in the impending Science-God religion and think they're doing God a service. It really IS imperative to know what the leaven of the literal, actual modern Pharisees IS. Time to awake. It's real.

by **strangelove** Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:06 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:Doc, I'd love to see you tiptoe into the BF Helio thread and body-slam everybody. I'm limited on time right now, and there are pending posts to respond to.

I have been tempted PPS I really have mate.....but I'm gonna stay out of it I think. Not needed. I think you are doing really well, and you got one guy fighting your case on Sagnac although him and oscar have now apparently decided that air resistance might be producing the effect (lolz!).

Apart from the gittrun who wont acknowledge a rotating universe every 24 hours, and bases his models accordingly (?) ......there really is not much else to respond to. It's easy really innit?

The only other opponent is revlogos who stayed out of it for a while then chimed in recently with a huge post consisting of.....coriolis...basically.....and appeals to Newtonian 2 body orbital gravitational mechanics. Both, super easy to dismiss with expert quotes. The rest of his post is simply baseless helio propoganda like:

"no empirical observations that suggest the earth is the unmoving center of the universe"

"geocentric model really hasn’t got a working theory that can predict any behavior"

"no observational evidence"

"emotional need to believe in geocentrism. I thought perhaps it was a general rejection of science."

.....and other such garbage. They have completely ignored your posts and just fall back on denial and false claims.

by zone Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:54 pm

Strangelove wrote:

I have been tempted PPS I really have mate.....but I'm gonna stay out of it I think. Not needed. I think you are doing really well, and you got one guy fighting your case on Sagnac although him and oscar have now apparently decided that air resistance might be producing the effect (lolz!).

Apart from the gittrun who wont acknowledge a rotating universe every 24 hours, and bases his models accordingly (?) ......there really is not much else to respond to. It's easy really innit?

The only other opponent is revlogos who stayed out of it for a while then chimed in recently with a huge post consisting of.....coriolis...basically.....and appeals to Newtonian 2 body orbital gravitational mechanics. Both, super easy to dismiss with expert quotes. The rest of his post is simply baseless helio propoganda like:

"no empirical observations that suggest the earth is the unmoving center of the universe"

"geocentric model really hasn’t got a working theory that can predict any behavior"

"no observational evidence"

"emotional need to believe in geocentrism. I thought perhaps it was a general rejection of science."

.....and other such garbage. They have completely ignored your posts and just fall back on denial and false claims.

agree on all points Docbaby.
including that PPS is doing a smashing job.
can't really blame the heli eggheads....they've spent their lives saying and teaching these things.....NO DIFF from the Darbyite/SBC PRETRIBBERS and Isro-centrcists.

they think Israel, NOT JESUS CHRIST, is the centre of God's Plan (read universe for the helio guys) and ain't nuthin y'all can say that'll change it. Only God has the power to open eyes. best we can do is keep saying it. Imagine being a Pastor with 35 years in the pulpit, a congregation of 2000 and he's got THEM believing it too!!! and why? BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL READING FROM A BOOK WITH A FAULTY FOUNDATION. Scofield.

ppl just can't accept that there are folks who would go to all the trouble to invent lies, implement them, cover them up, and perpetuate them IN SPITE of all the evidence to the contrary. they'll write falsified books and create 'SCIENTIFIC' THEORIES...yes, i said THEORIES that will fit the bill:

just look at this baby related to anthropomorphic GLOBAL WARMING!! the Technocrats (that's a science/religion/lie that pushes stuff like anthro-warming; peak oil; cARbon credits as the new global credit - SEE THREAD technocracy):

CLUB OF ROME << bad guys:

In 1993, the Club published The First Global Revolution.^[5] According to this book, divided nations require common enemies to unite them, "either a real one or else one invented for the purpose."^[6] Because of the sudden absence of traditional enemies, "new enemies must be identified."^[6]

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

Club of Rome
wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome

^^ GLOBAL MARXISM ^^ (also called austerity/communitarianism/patriot act/technocracy) so your summary - Copernicus > Darwin > Freud etc is totally bang on...pun intended.

did you know our friend Copernicus was of the Pharisee party? oh yes indeedy.

okay? so ask the heli eggies if man causes Global warming.
then show them this.

and remind them that the the cabal pushing the agenda GOT CAUGHT falsifying the records. the ENTIRE g-WARMING premise (lie) was created on a computer MODEL ('HIDE THE DECLINE')

i.e: enter desired outcome...PRESTO...desired outcome appears.

what MASONIC RUBBISH.

by zone Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:30 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:On BF, PPS said...

Let me be clear. There's an agenda. It's an ancient agenda of the spirit of antichrist, specifically that which came out of Babylon. This war of principalities and powers has been waged for the hearts and minds of men throughout history. It has encompassed many means, including the progression of natural knowledge and technology from early metallurgy to microchips and beyond. The agenda is for world dominance by wresting the creation from its Creator and the stamping out of faith. Faith is siphoned off one generation at a time by gradually replacing that which faith is placed IN.

This began exponentially in earnest with the Copernican Revolution, without which there could be no Darwinian Revolution or viable continued platform for the Marxian Revolution and on to the Freudian Revolution. It's all culminating in the reestablishment of ancient religion, from/by/being Mystery Babylon. The core tenet is the Big Bang and chaos finding order. What has been "established" by modern theoretical science is ages-old religion as prophesied in scripture; and primarily through the 99% of scientists who have no such agenda.

Kinematics are identical if space is the "something" of aether. Forces are theoretical by the same measure of observation as kinematics. Heliocentricity is a Philosophical choice that has been selectively empiricized.

I've spent over a decade digging and verifying, and prayerfully questioning and challenging everything along the way. I know exactly what is happening and how and why, and how it's interwoven all through history back to before the Abrahamic era. It's not "secret gnosis" or arrogance; it's a humble and fervent desire for truth and to prepare for what is coming on a large scale to help others en masse for the impending economic collapses and everything else.

I'm going to proceed according to the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him. Others can trust in the impending Science-God religion and think they're doing God a service. It really IS imperative to know what the leaven of the literal, actual modern Pharisees IS. Time to awake. It's real.

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by zone Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:37 pm

PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:Doc, I'd love to see you tiptoe into the BF Helio thread and body-slam everybody..

me too.

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PneumaPsucheSoma wrote:
I have kept Kabbalah completely out of it for now. Maybe a future in-depth expose will be in order, but I haven't popped the lid yet.

as soon as you do, 1/2 the die-hard scientists will jump ship. nobody likes knowing they've been lied to. and what's anathema to a scientist but RELIGION? haha.

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by PneumaPsucheSoma Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:49 pm

zone wrote:

me too.

as soon as you do, 1/2 the die-hard scientists will jump ship. nobody likes knowing they've been lied to. and what's anathema to a scientist but RELIGION? haha.

I've been strongly alluding to it in a few threads. There's even a new thread asking for others to explain what the Eschaton Agenda and Mystery Babylon are.

Kaballah
Khazars
Kommunitarianism

The NEW KKK! ROFLMBO

by PneumaPsucheSoma Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:52 pm

zone wrote:

No one has yet caught on and asked about the "literal, actual modern Pharisees." Weird.

by PneumaPsucheSoma Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:59 pm

zone wrote:

agree on all points Docbaby.
including that PPS is doing a smashing job.
can't really blame the heli eggheads....they've spent their lives saying and teaching these things.....NO DIFF from the Darbyite/SBC PRETRIBBERS and Isro-centrcists.

they think Israel, NOT JESUS CHRIST, is the centre of God's Plan (read universe for the helio guys) and ain't nuthin y'all can say that'll change it. Only God has the power to open eyes. best we can do is keep saying it. Imagine being a Pastor with 35 years in the pulpit, a congregation of 2000 and he's got THEM believing it too!!! and why? BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL READING FROM A BOOK WITH A FAULTY FOUNDATION. Scofield.

ppl just can't accept that there are folks who would go to all the trouble to invent lies, implement them, cover them up, and perpetuate them IN SPITE of all the evidence to the contrary. they'll write falsified books and create 'SCIENTIFIC' THEORIES...yes, i said THEORIES that will fit the bill:

just look at this baby related to anthropomorphic GLOBAL WARMING!! the Technocrats (that's a science/religion/lie that pushes stuff like anthro-warming; peak oil; cARbon credits as the new global credit - SEE THREAD technocracy):

CLUB OF ROME << bad guys:

In 1993, the Club published The First Global Revolution.^[5] According to this book, divided nations require common enemies to unite them, "either a real one or else one invented for the purpose."^[6] Because of the sudden absence of traditional enemies, "new enemies must be identified."^[6]

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

Club of Rome
wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome

^^ GLOBAL MARXISM ^^ (also called austerity/communitarianism/patriot act/technocracy) so your summary - Copernicus > Darwin > Freud etc is totally bang on...pun intended.

did you know our friend Copernicus was of the Pharisee party? oh yes indeedy.

okay? so ask the heli eggies if man causes Global warming.
then show them this.

and remind them that the the cabal pushing the agenda GOT CAUGHT falsifying the records. the ENTIRE g-WARMING premise (lie) was created on a computer MODEL ('HIDE THE DECLINE')

i.e: enter desired outcome...PRESTO...desired outcome appears.

what MASONIC RUBBISH.

Technocracy. I lub to hate it.

Tell me more about Copernicus the sun-worshipper and his Khazar/Pharisee background.

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