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Post by zone Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:09 pm

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Turkey Wins Removal Of Armenian Genocide From German Schools RFE/RL Armenia Report - 01/26/2005

(dpa) - Pressure from Turkey has resulted in the removal of a reference to the Armenian genocide from a German school curriculum, reports said Wednesday.

The eastern German state of Brandenburg has eliminated half a sentence on the Armenians included in ninth and tenth grade history classes after a Turkish diplomat complained to state Prime Minister Matthias Platzeck, the newspaper Die Welt reported.

http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?title=Turkey_Wins_Removal_Of_Armenian_Genocide_From_German_Schools
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Post by zone Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:17 pm

Murderers!, Jews Plotted The Armenian Holocaust




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BUSINESS AS USUAL

is a powerful motivating force especially when Jews like the Rothschilds are running an oil business.
Banking is the forte of the Jewish House of Rothschild. But raw materials–especially oil–are money in the bank.
The Young Turk movement, AKA Committee of Union and Progress, arose out of the Rothschilds’ oil interests in the Black Sea area of the Ottoman Empire in the late 1800s. ‘Creating stability’ in an incendiary realm was necessary for the Rothschilds’ new oil enterprise Baku Oil. The instability of the Armenian Christians’ financial and intellectual prominence in the area was not “good for business.”
Thus hand-picked Jews of Salonika, (Jews made up the majority of the city’s population), and foreign agitators such as the Russian Zionist, Vladimir Jabotinksy, the editor of The Young Turk newspaper, were just what the Rothschilds needed for ridding the source of that instability, the Armenian Christians.
Now, the Zionist Young Turks who sought for the break up of the Ottoman Empire in order to obtain Palestine–and the House of Rothschild, who needed a Jewish-controlled Turkey and hegemony over the entire Middle East, could work together. This meant funding for the Jewish Young Turks and revolutionary subversives for the Rothschilds.




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HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF THE JEWISH YOUNG TURKS

1680: Sabbatai Zvi, a Turkish Jew, proclaims himself to be the Jewish Messiah in Salonica. After amassing a following of thousands of Jews - he led them on a Zionist exodus to Palestine. On the way he decided to become a Muslim. Many of his followers saw this as God’s plan and also became Muslims.

1716: A group called the “Donmeh” forms in Salonica of Sabbatai Zvi’s followers headed by Sabbatai Zvi’s successor, Baruchya Russo. By the early 1900’s, the Donmeh numbers in the hundreds of thousands. They were known as “Crypto Jews” because though outwardly appearing to be Muslims, they were still Jews following the customs of the Jewish occult Kabbala which Sabbatai Zvi taught. They continue in their fervent, (yet secret), Zionist vision.

1860: Jewish Hungarian Zionist named Arminius Vambery becomes an advisor to the Sultan Abdül Mecit while secretly working as an agent for Lord Palmerston of the British Foreign Office. Vambery tries to broker a deal between the Zionist leader Theodore Herzl and Sultan Abdul Mecit over the creation of Israel but fails.

1891: Out of the Donmeh a Zionist political group forms called The Committee of Union and Progress, later called The Young Turks. The group is headed by a Freemason Jew by the name of Emmanuel Carraso who organizes the secret Committee of Union and Progress in Geneva with the help of the Rothschilds.

1895-1896: Sephardic Jews of Salonika together with the Turks massacre Armenian Christians in Istanbul.

1902 & 1907: Two Congresses of The Young Turks meet in Paris to plan, prepare, and effect the penetration the Sultan’s army leading to the military coup of 1908.

1908: The Jewish Young Turks revolt and force the Sultan Abdul Hamid II into submission.

1909: The Jewish Young Turks rape, torture, and slaughter over 100,000 Armenians in the city of Adana, also known as Cilicia.

1914: The Jews of The Young Turks create unrest, turmoil, and bolster the paid Serbian assassin, Gavrilo Princip, which leads to World War I.

1915: The Armenian Holocaust engineered by the ruling Jews of The Young Turks, leaves 1.5 million Armenian Christians starved, tortured, and murdered.

1918: Jew Mustafa Kemal ‘Ataturk’ ascends into leadership.

1920: Russian Jewish Bolsheviks supply Ataturk iwth 10 million gold roubles, 45,000 rifles, and 300 machine guns with ammunition.

1921: Ataturk occupies the Port of Baku in conjunction with the Russian Jewish Bolsheviks ceding it to the Bolsheviks five days later. The Rothschilds are delighted.

1922: Jewish Kemalists orchestrate the burning of Smyrna resulting in the ‘ethnic cleansing’ of over 100,000 Armenian and Greek Christians left tortured, starved, raped, and dead.

THE BRITISH AMBASSADOR TO THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE SIR GERALD LOWTHER’S LETTER TO SIR CHARLES HARDING, May 29, 1910


— “Shortly after the revolution in July 1908, it soon became known that many of the Young Turks’ leading members were Freemasons. It was noticed that Jews of all colours, native and foreign, were enthusiastic supporters of the new dispensation, till, as many Turks expressed it, every Hebrew became a potential spy of the Young Turks. Turks began to remark that the movement was rather a Jewish than a Turkish Revolution.” —


JEWISH MURDERERS KNOWN AS THE YOUNG TURKS

1. Emmanuel Carraso: B’nai B’rith Official of Italian origin. Grand Master of the Macedonia Resurrected Masonic Lodge in Salonika; Established the ’secret’ Committee of Union & Progress in Salonika in 1890.

2. Tallaat Pasha (1874-1921): Thought to be a Turk but in reality a “Donmeh Jew.” Interior Minister of Turkey during World War I; Member of Carasso’s Masonic lodge and Grand Master of the Scottish Rite Masons in Turkey; Chief architect of the Armenian Holocaust and Director of Deportations. He wrote, “By continuing the deportation of the Armenians to their destinations during the intense cold we are ensuring their eternal rest.”

3. Djavid Bey: “Donmeh Jew.” Talaat’s Finance Minister; Arranged the finances of revolution in Turkey with the Rothschilds; Later assassinated by Ataturk as a perceived rival.

4. Messim Russo: Assistant to Djavid Bey.

5. Refik Bey, AKA Refik Saydam Bey: Editor of Young Turk newspaper Revolutionary Press; Became Prime Minister of Turkey in 1939.

6. Emanuel Qrasow: Jewish propagandist for The Young Turks. Headed the delegation to inform Sultan Abdul Hamid II that “the nation has removed you from your office.”

7. Vladimir Jabotinsky: Russian Zionist who moved to Turkey in 1908. Supported by B’nai Brith of London and Dutch Zionist millionaire, Jacob Kann; Editor of Young Turk newspaper. Later started the terrorist Irgun political party in Israel.

8. Alexander Helphand, AKA Parvus: Financier/liaison of the Rothschilds of the Young Turk revolution; Editor of The Turkish Homeland.

9. Mustafa Kemal ‘Ataturk’ (1881-1938): A Jew of Sephardic (Spanish) origin. Ataturk attended the Jewish elementary school known as Semsi Effendi School run by the Jew Simon Zvi. Over 12,000 Jews welcomed to Turkey by Ataturk in 1933 when Hitler came to power.





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JEW ABE FOXMAN OF THE ADL DENIES THE ARMENIAN HOLOCAUST


For many years, the Anti Defamation League and now its director, Abraham Foxman, refuse to acknowledge that the massacres of 1.5 million Armenians between 1915 and 1923 constituted genocide. Jews simply can’t stand to share their so-called “martyred-race” status with anyone else. And besides, Jews don’t like to have their crimes pointed out to them. If one does, he is instantly labeled an “Anti Semite!”

Foxman has reiterated the ADL’s opposition to formal U.S. recognition of the Armenian Holocaust calling a proposed Congressional resolution “a counterproductive diversion.” This position is inconsistent with the ADL’s mission statement “to secure justice and fair treatment to all citizens alike.”

But the Jew Abe Foxman and his racist ADL organization do not care about any other ethnic group but their own. And they will lie and suppress the historical facts (and all historical facts that incriminate the Jews) of the Armenian Holocaust and the role that the Jews played in it. Foxman and all Jews do this in order to perpetuate their image as “innocent victims.”


WE CANNOT ALLOW THE JEWS

to get away with their suppression of historical facts that incriminate the Jews any longer. Abe Foxman and his racist Jewish friends love to see Revisionist Historians thrown in jail for questioning particulars of the Jewish Holocaust in Germany.

But it is Foxman and the rest of the Jewish censors who should be thrown in jail for denying the Armenian Holocaust! Why do Jews abide by a double standard constantly? Aren’t we all sick of it and all these Jews for that matter by now?

I, for one, Brother Nathanael Kapner, a former Jew and now an Orthodox Christian, will do all in my power to expose the Jews. For the Jews are *not* innocent victims of persecution against them but have *prompted* backlashes against them throughout their “wandering-among-the-nations” history.


The Jews in fact are the most fierce perpetrators of racist crimes the world has ever known. And the Armenian Holocaust of which the Jews are responsible is a clear example of their Jewish racist crimes.



Sources:
Jack Manuelian, The Founding Fathers of Modern Turkey
Times of London, The Armenian Massacres
Joseph Brewda, Young Turks To Control Middle East
Christopher Jon Bjerknes, Jewish Racism
Documents, Photos, History of Armenian Massacre By The Young Turks


Jacob M Landau, The Zionist Jews who founded the idea of Turkish Nationalism; National Geographic Magazine, September 1916 issue, Saloniki; Yair Auron, The Banality Of Indifference: Zionism & the Armenian Genocide

Richard Davey, The Sultan and his Subjects; Arnold S. Leese, The Real Jew-A Lesson From Turkey; Grant Richards, The Cause of The World’s Unrest; Dr. H. Stuermer, Two War Years in Constantinople; Andrew Mango, Ataturk; Clifford Shack, The Armenian & Jewish Genocide Project that Eliminated the Ethnic Conflict; Joseph Hantman,The Turkish-Israeli Connection and Its Jewish Roots; Hillel Halkin, Ataturk’s Turkey Overturned; Carroll Quigley, Tragedy & Hope

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=77

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Post by strangelove Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:53 pm

JEW ABE FOXMAN OF THE ADL DENIES THE ARMENIAN HOLOCAUST

I never use Kapner cuz he's over the top and unreliable.

This is the rest of Foxemans statement:

“Turkey and the U.S. have many common and vital interests that require
close cooperation and mutual trust. Passage of the resolution will not
change our shared strategic interests, but could impact the political
will in Turkey to pursue them as effectively as possible. We have urged
Turkey and Armenia to work towards reconciliation for a long time. The
resolution will hinder that process, and we oppose it. However, opposing
the resolution must not be confused with denying history,
added Foxman

Not sticking up for Foxeman by ANY means....but that article is easliy refuted by the mans own words. He is obviously trying to divert attention away from the Armenian holocaust, and that is most probably the goal of his opposing the bill....but you see Kapners big headline is a bit of a lemon.
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Post by ada Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:52 pm

Strangelove wrote:

I never use Kapner cuz he's over the top and unreliable.


Please explain why i should trust you more then him..
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Post by zone Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:21 pm

ada wrote:

Please explain why i should trust you more then him..

if you don't trust Doc what in hell are you doing here?

i agree Kapner is suspect. thats why i have him as one more pile of paper on my READING DESK.

ADA YOUR INNUENDOS toward doc are uncalled for......if you would care to elaborate clearly what your suspiscions are we'll deal with them. but lately your tone toward Doc is problematic. if he doesn't care....FINE.



but get your cards on the table.
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Post by strangelove Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:35 pm

ada wrote:Please explain why i should trust you more then him..

Whats trust got to do with it?

Kapner made an allegation. Foxemans own words prove him wrong.

We cant use stuff thats easily refuted.

Is there a problem?

Where does trust come into it?
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Post by ada Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:49 am

Strangelove wrote:

Whats trust got to do with it?

Kapner made an allegation. Foxemans own words prove him wrong.

We cant use stuff thats easily refuted.

Is there a problem?

Where does trust come into it?

Is he a brother in Christ or not?
Is he unreliable overall if you proof him wrong once?
Is he a liar?
So if you say, he is unreliable its of cause a matter of whom to trust or whom not.

Tell me why i should not believe him and i will try to made up my mind about him.

And zone..
No need to get upset.



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Post by zone Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:18 am

Turkey Wins Removal Of Armenian Genocide From German Schools

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Turkey Wins Removal Of Armenian Genocide From German Schools RFE/RL Armenia Report - 01/26/2005

(dpa) - Pressure from Turkey has resulted in the removal of a reference to the Armenian genocide from a German school curriculum, reports said Wednesday.

The eastern German state of Brandenburg has eliminated half a sentence on the Armenians included in ninth and tenth grade history classes after a Turkish diplomat complained to state Prime Minister Matthias Platzeck, the newspaper Die Welt reported.

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Pope and Pharisees Preach More Holocaustolatry


Zones Reading Desk (Temporary Collection Thread) - Page 3 Benedict+with+Jews_williamson+2009 Benedict XVI, Walter Kasper and Chief Priests of Holocaustolatry Feb. 12, 2009. Note Pharisees David Rosen and Abe Foxman who is a denier of the genocide of Armenian Christians in the first seats.

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Pinay has rightly identified those Rabbis as Pharisees:

The sages of the Talmud see a direct link between themselves and the Pharisees, and historians generally consider Pharisaic Judaism to be the progenitor of Rabbinic Judaism, that is normative, mainstream Judaism after the destruction of the Second Temple. All mainstream forms of Judaism today consider themselves heirs of Rabbinic Judaism and, ultimately, the Pharisees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees


i'm reasonably satisfied that (though am working on it still):

1) crypto-jews (whether they were khazars or not) instigated and carried out the armenian genocide, including the massacre at SMYRNA.

if the actual events Jesus described in Rev 2 happened at some time prior to 1922 in History, they indeed happened AGAIN in 1922, and to the letter - that terrible time for those christians at Smyrna in 1922 lasted 10 days, and was carried out by the Synagogue of Satan:

Rev 2
8And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

9I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. 10Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. 11He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

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2) adl/foxman/bnai brith et al apparently have a vested interest in, and are actively covering up the armenian holocaust (death by burning) among other global (ALMOST ALWAYS REVOLUTIONARY AND COMMUNISTIC) events.

3) their installation of 'jewish' Attaturk/The Young Turks aided the Bolsheviks to such an extent i am persuaded the entire regional history was driven by the same group carrying out the same agenda.

ultimatley this will be the extermination of christians primarily, with all other gentiles incidentally (except the ones chosen to be "carriers of wood") within greater israel.

i'm currently researching the systematic killing of christians and destruction of churches during this arab spring and at other times through history, now knowing these jews and freemasons embed themsleves within other cultures and religions for the purposes above: i know the Muslim Brotherhood, House of Saud and Hamas are all creations of Brit-Am/Israel.

what is interesting to note is that beheading seems to be a favourite practise of these people, whatever disguises they wear: i have been looking into the extremist forms of "Islam" (run by Shriners), the ones that employ beheading - USUAL SUSPECTS INVOLVED.

Kennedy's MONOLITHIC AND RUTHLESS CONSPIRACY speech fits here.

i'm moving to a new thread now, one to be used as another reading desk/research center to compile everything i can on Gog/Magog...i may not write a summary conclusion until the end, i am just gathering data.

i may be nearing the placement of another piece of the puzzle.

~

foxman and anyone else has every "right" to "deny" anything they want about history or anything else. i have every right to deny the earth is round. denying something happened in history shouldn't be a crime.

covering up facts
about something that happened in history MIGHT be a crime, depending upon how the cover-up was done, and if the historical event was a crime in itself.
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Post by zone Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:35 pm

http://editorseye.com/WordPress/category/russia/

^^ INCREDIBLE RAW RESOURCE...
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Post by zone Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:41 pm

Corrupt priesthood: Check.
Institutionalized pedophilia: Check.
Leadership that looks the other way: Check.

The worship of Caesar had established in Rome the tradition of a “sacred monarchy” which would evolve centuries later into the Papal worship––the exultation of a religious leader as a literal “Christ on the earth.” This is the precise term used by various Catholic “saints”and popes, and most recently by another Cardinal, Joseph Ratzinger, the powerful Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (modern-day successor to the Inquisition) and the second most powerful person in the Vatican after the Pope. Ratzinger said:


“The twentieth century was one of the most crucial in human history, with its tragic and cruel events culminating in the assassination attempt on the ‘sweet Christ on earth’. Now a veil is drawn back on a series of events which make history and interpret it in depth, in a spiritual perspective alien to present-day attitudes, often tainted with rationalism.” (The Message of Fatima)

How very mystical.

This is the same Cardinal Ratzinger who calls the Jews “our Jewish brothers,” who wrote that the Jews and Christians are inseparable, and who, in January of 2002, authorized a 210-page document by the Pontifical Biblical Commission, titled “The Jewish People and the Holy Scriptures in the Christian Bible” which states that “the Jewish messianic wait is not in vain,”––that Jews and Christians wait together for the Messiah, even though Jews are waiting for the first coming and Christians for the second coming! The Pontifical Biblical Commission stated: “Like them, we too live in expectation. The difference is that for us the One who is to come will have the traits of the Jesus who has already come and is already present and active among us."If this statement seems to be saying that Christians await a messiah who will merely have the traits of Jesus Christ, and not Jesus Christ Himself, that is exactly what the Pontifical Commission said.

http://twelfthbough.blogspot.ca/search?q=sabbatean
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Post by zone Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:28 pm

Oligarch Smackdown LIVE!

by Israel Shamir
Sunday, December 9th, 2012

An Entertainment

Who said the filthy rich are good for nothing? Their antics are very entertaining! The Nouveau Riche have always been notorious headline-stealers, but the newest crop of Russian oligarchs make the robber barons of previous generations look timid and colourless. As money ages, it becomes anaemic; divided and subdivided by careful lawyers into a maze of corporate entities. New money is still good fun; oligarchs are like prizefighters ablaze with sudden victory. They pull their stunts right in public, and they don’t pull their punches. These hometown heroes fill the vacuum left by the maharajas and sheiks in a way that our drab bureaucrats never could; they parade their Humvee Jeeps through the Moscow crowds, as sure and proud as the Indian kings who once rode their battle elephants in the jungle.

They are more powerful and less restrained in their choice of action than ever were Scorsese’s Mafia dons. Brutal, unscrupulous, overriding, often overreaching, these are characters made for a Shakespearean drama. They are lawless; they freely trample upon other people until somebody finally tramples upon them. They are full-bloodied villains or generous benefactors, or both. Their habit of using London as their litigation headquarters has given their other habits an international audience.

Recently two mighty tycoons, Berezovsky and Abramovich, jousted in a London court for the prize of billions — and incidentally disclosed how they stripped the Russian public of its most valuable assets during Yeltsin’s privatization regime. These courtroom warriors do not flinch at revealing the basest of crimes to achieve victory; in this case another Neoliberal myth has been destroyed, and another dark chapter in Russian history has been illuminated......

http://www.deliberation.info/oligarch-smackdown-live/

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George Orwell
"All animals are created equal but some are more equal than others"
Animal Farm
allegory re: the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia in 1917
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Post by zone Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:51 pm

The Babylonian Woe
by David Astle
A Study of the Origin of Certain Banking Practices,
and of their effect on the events of Ancient History, written in the light of the Present Day.

http://ia600302.us.archive.org/15/items/TheBabylonianWoe/Babylonian_Woe.pdf < click
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Post by zone Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:53 pm

Babylonian Woe Part 1 – YouTube
http://wearechangeseattle.org/babylonian-woe-part-1-youtube
this is just a guy reading the entire book
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Post by strangelove Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:52 pm

Sounds like an identical project to Hoffers latest book?
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Post by zone Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:31 pm

Monday, June 03, 2013
Two Right wing agents of disinformation

Our colleague in Denver, Mr. J.P.J., writes to allege that the “traditional Catholic" Matt family paper The Remnant states:

“Interior Minister Manuel Valls announced that the French government has begun monitoring certain groups for ‘religious pathology,’ including, you guessed it! traditional Catholic organizations...as Valls put it, ‘these traditional Catholics as well as radical Muslims and ultra-Orthodox Jews want to live separately from the modern world,” and are thus examples of religious extremists who under the new secular policy will be disbanded if the government deems them to suffer from “religious pathology.”

In the undated photocopied excerpt from The Remnant I could found no analysis of this statement by the secularist Valls except The Remnant editor’s prediction that all these religious groups are threatened with being disbanded by the government of France.

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.ca/2013/06/two-agents-of-disinformation.html

hoffster the master of the withering analysis.
gotta love it
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