Re: Dominion??

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:46 am

Who is talking about guns? forcing laws? not me

If a person reads the OT we can see clearly God is involved in human government. My goodness this is His creation why not have His Body involved?

by Hitch Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:00 am

Strangelove wrote:

Ya sure. You say Jesus will come when the world has been Christianized correct? You also say there will 'probably' be persecution of Christians in the endtimes? So my question was, how can there be persecution of Christians in a completely Christianized world.

When did I say anything about a completely christianized world?

How does that work? Havn't you utterly failed in your mission if thats happening?

Oh sorry. It's right here:

Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Pretty simple eh?

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Pretty simple eh?

Caesar is not my master. Jesus is my master. He told me to preach the Gospel. Thats what I'm doing. I have no responsibility to any government.

You are mistaken

Only to God. If you were in Germany in the 1930's would you be slaving hard for your Nazi rulers?

LOL

So, what would Godly justice be for heathens who are running around talking about Islam and Buddhism and trying to convert everyone away from Jesus?

Do you think the concept of freedom of religion is a christian or pagan idea? What does preaching have to do with criminal law?

What have the eggheads at Liberty Uni come up with using all their MAN MADE law degrees and wotnot? What the plan? Whats next?

ask them

by Adstar Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:00 am

reba wrote:wow how very sad.

Adstar, do you use any of the benifits of the Governing, policing, running jails or staffing the military.

Do you expect other to obey traffic laws? To what degree do you really believe what you say? Get into a car wreck hope you dont seek a police report. The bad guys break into your home dont call the cops.
The government say in the form of a water district supplies the water to your home do you use it?

I am not stating that government does not have
it's purpose. But that purpose is Definitely Not in being a force to enforce
Christianity upon the masses.

Governments can make whatever laws they like and if they have any wisdom they
will take wisdom from the bible in regard to what good laws are. But that’s up
to them how they rule their kingdoms.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:06 am

Will nice to get to know you. Use what you will but dont get involved! Good for you....

Governments can make whatever laws they like and if they have any wisdom they will take wisdom from the bible in regard to what good laws are. But that’s up to them how they rule their kingdoms.

If a government makes bibical laws that's wisdom but if a christian does the same it is force. Good for you!

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:07 am

Hitch wrote:Im not a politician , but I am a voter.

And votes are RIGGED. Please get a grip on reality.

Hitch wrote:Got something better

Yeah. forget about trying to take over the world and just preach the Gospel. Those who are called will hear the truth.

Hitch wrote:You're a slow one, take a week or two and read through the parables of Matthew 13,

Uhm...I made a whole section for personal remarks. Take it to the bashing subforum. Please explain where any parables talk about Christians entering into secular governance?

Hitch wrote:see Mat 13

Your comments on Matt 13 regarding the topic please?

Hitch wrote:I did you couldnt spare the time

I dont want books or websites. Show me a preacher (Audio/Video/transcript) PREACHING DT to his live congregation with all his heart.

Hitch wrote:Well its right next to the passage that says believers shouldnt be in politics, or military or any positions of leadership.

Nice dodge.

Hitch wrote:
Perhaps you missed it but it is no longer the first century,

Theres nothing new under the sun.

Hitch wrote:and though you compalin like a spoiled teenager,

Don't.

Hitch wrote:
our situation is far ,far better than anything in Paul's day. And with that comes reponsibilty, he said knowing ,it was wasted on one too good to vote....

You need an honest system for votes to count for anything. It's a catch 22.

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:09 am

reba wrote:wow how very sad.

Adstar, do you use any of the benifits of the Governing, policing, running jails or staffing the military.

Do you expect other to obey traffic laws? To what degree do you really believe what you say? Get into a car wreck hope you dont seek a police report. The bad guys break into your home dont call the cops.
The government say in the form of a water district supplies the water to your home do you use it?

What does any of that have to do with getting INVOLVED in governance?

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:12 am

reba wrote:Who is talking about guns? forcing laws? not me

If a person reads the OT we can see clearly God is involved in human government. My goodness this is His creation why not have His Body involved?

So Christian secular governance is NOT gonna involve having authority over its armed forces. Is that what your sayin' Reba?

Question: Was God involved in George Bushy's administration? Is He involved in Obamas? Are we halfway towards a world ruled by Christianity?

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:22 am

Hitch wrote:When did I say anything about a completely christianized world?

So...whats the plan again?

Hitch wrote:Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Pretty simple eh?

Erm...ya...wheres the stuff about grabbing the reigns of secular authority and power? It just says teach the Word. thats means preach. Not govern.

Hitch wrote:You are mistaken

How? Is Caesar your master? Is Obama?

Hitch wrote:Do you think the concept of freedom of religion is a christian or pagan idea?

It's a Christian idea. And I'm all for freedom. But will freedom of religion be allowed in a Christian government? If yes, then whats the point of having a Christian government? No matter what reforms you bring about, there will still be millions who reject the Gospel, and go around preaching their own religion everywhere.

Hitch wrote:
What does preaching have to do with criminal law?

Nothing.

Hitch wrote:ask them

Is that how you promote your favoured DT group? Very telling.

by Adstar Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:25 am

reba wrote:Who is talking about guns? forcing
laws? not me

If a person reads the OT we can see clearly God is involved in human
government. My goodness this is His creation why not have His Body
involved?

Look at what God established in the promised land for His people. He set up a
Prophet and God ruled them by giving them directions through the Prophets.
Samuel was the last of these Kinds of Prophets. Why was He the last? Because
the people started to whine that the wanted to be like the other kingdoms on
earth to have a king over them. What did God say to Samuel about this? :

1 Samuel 8
⁴ Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel
at Ramah, ⁵ and said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons do
not walk in your ways. Now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.”
⁶ But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to
judge us.” So Samuel prayed to the LORD. ⁷ And the LORD said to
Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they
have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign
over them.

So before this time they lived in a near perfect society without a king without
worldly government because the government was God himself.

Jesus made it clear to Pilate that His kingdom was not of this world. Jesus was
making a clear distinction that the kingdoms of this world where not of Him.
When we get into bed with the kingdoms of this world we are making harlots of
ourselves.

Yes God had allowed them to rule just as He has allowed satan to do what He did
to Job, This world is the book of Job written large.

Why do you think Paul stated:

1 Corrinthians 5
¹ It is actually reported that there is sexual
immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even namedamong
the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! ² And you are
puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be
taken away from among you. ³ For I indeed, as absent in body but
present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has
so done this deed. ⁴ In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you
are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus
Christ, ⁵ deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the
flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

What is Paul saying? Who is the satan Paul is referring too? He is
telling them to give that person over to the civil governing authorities to be
executed. He is identifying those Authorities to be of satan

Don't you know that to take office one must swear an oath of office. It’s the
same for the president, policeman and defence force recruits. What does Jesus
say about swearing oaths? Where they are from?

Matthew 5
³³ “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You
shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ ³⁴
But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is
God’s throne; ³⁵ nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by
Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. ³⁶ Nor shall you
swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. ³⁷
But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than
these is from the evil one.

So anyone who has sworn an Oath has gone against the teaching of Jesus and
Jesus makes clear that any Oaths are from the Evil One. The Evil One is satan.
If a Christian wants to be a politician in my country, they must first swear
and oath of allegiance before the governor general, before entering into
office. satan is in control of the governments of this world and they are Not
the kingdoms of Jesus. We should have nothing to do with them.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

by KingdomSeeker Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:34 am

Adstar wrote:

Look at what God established in the promised land for His people. He set up a
Prophet and God ruled them by giving them directions through the Prophets.
Samuel was the last of these Kinds of Prophets. Why was He the last? Because
the people started to whine that the wanted to be like the other kingdoms on
earth to have a king over them. What did God say to Samuel about this? :

1 Samuel 8
⁴ Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel
at Ramah, ⁵ and said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons do
not walk in your ways. Now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.”
⁶ But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to
judge us.” So Samuel prayed to the LORD. ⁷ And the LORD said to
Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they
have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign
over them.

So before this time they lived in a near perfect society without a king without
worldly government because the government was God himself.

Jesus made it clear to Pilate that His kingdom was not of this world. Jesus was
making a clear distinction that the kingdoms of this world where not of Him.
When we get into bed with the kingdoms of this world we are making harlots of
ourselves.

Yes God had allowed them to rule just as He has allowed satan to do what He did
to Job, This world is the book of Job written large.

Why do you think Paul stated:

1 Corrinthians 5
¹ It is actually reported that there is sexual
immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even namedamong
the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! ² And you are
puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be
taken away from among you. ³ For I indeed, as absent in body but
present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has
so done this deed. ⁴ In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you
are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus
Christ, ⁵ deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the
flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

What is Paul saying? Who is the satan Paul is referring too? He is
telling them to give that person over to the civil governing authorities to be
executed. He is identifying those Authorities to be of satan

Don't you know that to take office one must swear an oath of office. It’s the
same for the president, policeman and defence force recruits. What does Jesus
say about swearing oaths? Where they are from?

Matthew 5
³³ “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You
shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ ³⁴
But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is
God’s throne; ³⁵ nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by
Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. ³⁶ Nor shall you
swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. ³⁷
But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than
these is from the evil one.

So anyone who has sworn an Oath has gone against the teaching of Jesus and
Jesus makes clear that any Oaths are from the Evil One. The Evil One is satan.
If a Christian wants to be a politician in my country, they must first swear
and oath of allegiance before the governor general, before entering into
office. satan is in control of the governments of this world and they are Not
the kingdoms of Jesus. We should have nothing to do with them.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

AMEN!

by Hitch Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:39 am

Adstar wrote:

Look at what God established in the promised land for His people. He set up a
Prophet and God ruled them by giving them directions through the Prophets.
Samuel was the last of these Kinds of Prophets. Why was He the last? Because
the people started to whine that the wanted to be like the other kingdoms on
earth to have a king over them. What did God say to Samuel about this? :

1 Samuel 8
⁴ Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel
at Ramah, ⁵ and said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons do
not walk in your ways. Now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.”
⁶ But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to
judge us.” So Samuel prayed to the LORD. ⁷ And the LORD said to
Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they
have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign
over them.

So before this time they lived in a near perfect society without a king without
worldly government because the government was God himself.

Jesus made it clear to Pilate that His kingdom was not of this world. Jesus was
making a clear distinction that the kingdoms of this world where not of Him.
When we get into bed with the kingdoms of this world we are making harlots of
ourselves.

Yes God had allowed them to rule just as He has allowed satan to do what He did
to Job, This world is the book of Job written large.

Why do you think Paul stated:

1 Corrinthians 5
¹ It is actually reported that there is sexual
immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even namedamong
the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! ² And you are
puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be
taken away from among you. ³ For I indeed, as absent in body but
present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has
so done this deed. ⁴ In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you
are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus
Christ, ⁵ deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the
flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

What is Paul saying? Who is the satan Paul is referring too? He is
telling them to give that person over to the civil governing authorities to be
executed. He is identifying those Authorities to be of satan

Don't you know that to take office one must swear an oath of office. It’s the
same for the president, policeman and defence force recruits. What does Jesus
say about swearing oaths? Where they are from?

Matthew 5
³³ “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You
shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ ³⁴
But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is
God’s throne; ³⁵ nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by
Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. ³⁶ Nor shall you
swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. ³⁷
But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than
these is from the evil one.

So anyone who has sworn an Oath has gone against the teaching of Jesus and
Jesus makes clear that any Oaths are from the Evil One. The Evil One is satan.
If a Christian wants to be a politician in my country, they must first swear
and oath of allegiance before the governor general, before entering into
office. satan is in control of the governments of this world and they are Not
the kingdoms of Jesus. We should have nothing to do with them.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Are you married?

by Hitch Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:55 am

Strangelove wrote:
So...whats the plan again?

Erm...ya...wheres the stuff about grabbing the reigns of secular authority and power? It just says teach the Word. thats means preach. Not govern.

Really? Where does it say that? Where does that passaage say teach the Word ? You lied and just made that up didint you ?

How? Is Caesar your master? Is Obama?

Im not going to explain basic civics to a grown man

It's a Christian idea. And I'm all for freedom. But will freedom of religion be allowed in a Christian government? If yes, then whats the point of having a Christian government?

Hey stupid ,,,maybe there are some bad people about, who will harm others if they are not checked, get a grip .

No matter what reforms you bring about, there will still be millions who reject the Gospel, and go around preaching their own religion everywhere.

Jesus said there would be tares among the wheat , nice you've finally realized that [quotte]

Hitch wrote:
What does preaching have to do with criminal law?

Nothing.

Hitch wrote:ask them

Is that how you promote your favoured DT group? Very telling.[/quote] LOL You idiot. Liberty is dispensational, specificly chosen as an example because they are the antithesis if DT teaching. Can you find your ass with both hands ?

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:01 am

Take a break Hitch. Thats unacceptable.

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:10 am

I see how it is.... You want dominion here! Odd isn't when things hit home it becomes different or justifiable.

SL you have 2 little kids would you rather they grew up in a more christian world or less christian world. Yes we christians are not perfect but are/ is christianity better than the other side?

I dont understand how a person can think it is a bad thing to be a public servant. Why is that a wrong?

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:11 am

Christian Free Speech
by Strangelove on Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:45 am

.I got so fed up with trigger happy moderators and admins on other forums I decided to make my own.

If I ever squash free speech, please....just kill me.

We're allowed to talk about ANYTHING here as long as it's not blatantly antichrist..

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:14 am

reba wrote: Christian Free Speech
by Strangelove on Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:45 am

.I got so fed up with trigger happy moderators and admins on other forums I decided to make my own.

If I ever squash free speech, please....just kill me.

We're allowed to talk about ANYTHING here as long as it's not blatantly antichrist..

Personal Attacks and Bashing
Let off steam in this section. Personal attacks are allowed here ONLY. No Swearing.

Your not suggesting I allow perosnal attacks like what we've just seen in our discussions are you Reba?

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:18 am

I never knew that was a title to my view of christian involvment of daily life. This has been news to me.

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 am

reba wrote:I see how it is.... You want dominion here! Odd isn't when things hit home it becomes different or justifiable.

I'll allow DISCUSSION on anything but not rudeness in serious theological discussions. Yeah I'm gonna exercise control over that.

reba wrote:
SL you have 2 little kids would you rather they grew up in a more christian world or less christian world. Yes we christians are not perfect but are/ is christianity better than the other side?

I would rather they grew up with Christ in their hearts. There is no such thing as a 'Christian World'. We are not of this world.

reba wrote:
I dont understand how a person can think it is a bad thing to be a public servant. Why is that a wrong?

Adstar mentioned something about oaths?
He made some good points are you gonna address those?

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:21 am

SL you and i are alike we see personal attacks. the difference is who we as doing the attacking.

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:23 am

reba wrote:I never knew that was a title to my view of christian involvment of daily life. This has been news to me.

No-one is saying we are not to be salt of the Earth and a shining light to others in life.

Y'all are talking about secular governance and AUTHORITY. There is a profound difference.

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:24 am

reba wrote:SL you and i are alike we see personal attacks. the difference is who we as doing the attacking.

Not sure what that means..but...make a thread and we'll discuss it all you want.

by Adstar Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:25 am

Hitch wrote: Are you married?

No.

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:25 am

Never said there was / is a christian world. My words were more or less you chose to dodge.

Adstar can quickly out word me and my lack of education.

How about addressing the verse in Geneis where God says he gave us dominion.

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:33 am

No-one is saying we are not to be salt of the Earth and a shining light to others in life.

Y'all are talking about secular governance and AUTHORITY. There is a profound difference.

Keeping the salt in the shaker does nothing.

I dont have the talent to speak to folks serving on my local water board was my shot at local government. Some folks do have that talant why not use it. My sister is a teacher she has spent hours in prayer for her students that is bad? You do know that is what you are saying

AUTHORITY? Some how a cop/DA who is a christian is a bad guy? idont get it? You do know that is what you are saying

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:36 am

Exo 18:21 Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:
Exo 18:22 And let them judge the people at all seasons: and it shall be, that every great matter they shall bring unto thee, but every small matter they shall judge: so shall it be easier for thyself, and they shall bear the burden with thee.
Exo 18:23 If thou shalt do this thing, and God command thee so, then thou shalt be able to endure, and all this people shall also go to their place in peace.

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:38 am

reba wrote:How about addressing the verse in Geneis where God says he gave us dominion.

Already addressed that verse. It's clearly talking about mans dominion over OTHER creatures. Not dominion over eachother by secular rule of law.

Barnes:

And let them rule.[have dominion] - The relation of man to the creature is now stated. It is that of sovereignty. Those capacities of right thinking, right willing, and right acting, or of knowledge, holiness, and righteousness, in which man resembles God, qualify him for dominion, and constitute him lord of all creatures that are destitute of intellectual and moral endowments. Hence, wherever man enters he makes his sway to be felt. He contemplates the objects around him, marks their qualities and relations, conceives and resolves upon the end to be attained, and endeavors to make all things within his reach work together for its accomplishment. This is to rule on a limited scale. The field of his dominion is "the fish of the sea, the fowl of the skies, the cattle, the whole land, and everything that creepeth on the land." The order here is from the lowest to the highest. The fish, the fowl, are beneath the domestic cattle. These again are of less importance than the land, which man tills and renders fruitful in all that can gratify his appetite or his taste. The last and greatest victory of all is over the wild animals, which are included under the class of creepers that are prone in their posture, and move in a creeping attitude over the land.

Whats next?

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:48 am

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth

by **strangelove** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:51 am

reba wrote:Keeping the salt in the shaker does nothing.

Agreed! Go out into the world and season everyone you come into contact with, with the glorious Gospel message!

reba wrote:I dont have the talent to speak to folks serving on my local water board was my shot at local government. Some folks do have that talant why not use it. My sister is a teacher she has spent hours in prayer for her students that is bad? You do know that is what you are saying

Your accusing me of saying that praying for people is bad? Lolz.
Teaching is not a position of authority or governance its a position of responsibility.

reba wrote:AUTHORITY? Some how a cop/DA who is a christian is a bad guy? idont get it? You do know that is what you are saying

Actualy I said that people like that are NOT evil.

It's just not part of the Comission to enter into secular governance.

Tell me, will a country governed by Christianity have authority over its armed forces? Yes or No?

If there was a draft tomorrow, should Christians turn up for active duty and go and fight in Iran or Korea?

by Adstar Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:54 am

reba wrote:No-one is saying we are not to be
salt of the Earth and a shining light to others in life.

Y'all are talking about secular governance and AUTHORITY. There is a profound
difference.

Keeping the salt in the shaker does nothing.

I dont have the talent to speak to folks serving on my local water board was my
shot at local government. Some folks do have that talent why not use it. My
sister is a teacher she has spent hours in prayer for her students that is bad?
You do know that is what you are saying

AUTHORITY? Some how a cop/DA who is a christian is a bad guy? idont get it? You
do know that is what you are saying

Reba we shall never take control of this world through political/military
struggle it is vanity to even try. It is totally misguided. We are hear to use
the Word of God to cause those who the Spirit Moves to be not of this world
while they exist in this world.

The Kingdom of Jesus is not of this World, Jesus made that clear to Pilate.

And yes i do know what i am saying about police. They are under an Oath to
enforce the Laws of the Land, they are under Oath to serve the authorities of
this world, they cannot serve satan and God at the same time. Jesus said Do not
judge. Police are a part of the law system that does carry out judgement.

I would hope that all Christians would get out of the political power system of
this world. It is a deceptive delusion to teach people they can take over the
world and enforce Christianity on the world. Especially when the future has
been revealed to us showing us clearly that in the end times the authorities
will be Anti-Christ.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

by reba Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:01 am

Dont ever call a cop Adstar.

You seem to have the mind set i think i could take over the world and force christianity on folks.... NOPE I believe as a christian i should be involved. you dont ok dont call a cop he has taken an oath.....

We are to judge a rightious judgement

Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Lev 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

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