Re: Johnny's Casual Chatter Thread

[strangelove]

The Great and terrible Day of the Lord comes to mind, when the Lord rises to shake the nations,
when men both small and great hide and ask the rocks to cover them johnny

Will you be hiding in the rocks from fear Johnny?

Dunno 'bout you but I'll be standing at the highest elevation I can manage with my arms in the air welcoming my Lord.

We have nothing to fear from anything God visits upon this old Earth of ours. Nothing at all. His wrath is not for us.

[johnny botwright]

Fear nothing for I AM with you, you are fortunate you are in the right place at the right time,

many are not, unless people hear, how can they respond, unless we warn, their blood is on our hands, the duty of a watch man, to sound the alarm.

many will not see it coming, niether be prepared, watching alert, that day will over take them like a theif in the night,

johnny

[johnny botwright]

And the whole world will go after the beast, worship his image, take his mark, with out the mark, unable to buy or sell.
johnny

[johnny botwright]

The Lord of the rings leads to a final battle, the terminater judgement day, we see nuclear exchange. an escalation.

The return of the King.
We see it written Jesus returning in great power and glory, with the host of heaven with him, driving back the forces of the anti christ, satan is then bound for a thousand years.
A thousand years of peace,
johnny

[strangelove]

Your right JB. You are a good watchman. I love you Brother.

[strangelove]

Do you have peace and joy in the Holy Spirit Johnny?

[johnny botwright]

I listened to this the other day, did not hold with all being said, he made refferences at times to the bible, i cannot say i have read, some of the things he was reffering to,

i thought some of it was a bit of the deep end,
waves three miles high, i have heard experts after doing computer simulation speaking of waves a thousand feet high, caused by an asteroid. comet hitting the sea,

i know in the film 2012, the waves are to the top of the Himalayers ect.
though i did come across this in the book of Isaiah chapter 24 verse 19
The earth is broken asunder,
The earth is split through,
the earth is shaken violently.
The earth reels to and fro like a drunkard,
and it totters like a shack.
For its transgression is heavy upon it,
and it will fall, never to rise again.
So it will happen in that day,

That the Lord will punish the host of Heaven, on high,
And the Kings of the earth, on earth.
so maybe just maybe some of the present predictions, concerning wormwood, the brown darf, may not be as far fetched as they seem ?
johnny

[johnny botwright]

As with most people here at times, peace i would say yes , a peace within, stays

but also the conflict within, growing and learning on going,

some intresting input now at the general forum,

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/ always a joy, if you can bring some light into the darkness, and have the opportunity to share with others.some who are searching. johnny

[strangelove]

So Christians have been experiencing a "thousand years" of peace in the Holy Spirit since Christ overcame the world right JB? Since He bound satan?

Mark 3:27 No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

Job done on satan, would you not agree? Now theres the small matter of Judgement when the Lord returns.

[johnny botwright]

my under standing of satan being bound for a thousand years, takes place after Jesus returns, there are always situations where we can bind the powers of darkness,
What so ever you bind on the earth will be bound in the heavens,

when we are in agreement, satans time is coming, but at present knowing his time is short, like a roaring lion, seeking who he may devour,

the Lord is our peace, the joy of the Lord is our strength. johnny

[strangelove]

my under standing of satan being bound for a thousand years, takes place after Jesus returns, there are always situations where we can bind the powers of darkness,
What so ever you bind on the earth will be bound in the heavens,

Jesus cast out satan when He was on Earth. He defeated him at his 1st coming and at the cross. We cant do any binding because Christ did it already. We cant add to that can we? He lives on through the Gospel being the living Word. That living Word keeps Christians safe from satan. It effectively keeps satan bound.

when we are in agreement, satans time is coming, but at present knowing his time is short, like a roaring lion, seeking who he may devour,

He cant devour true Christians though! Coz he has been bound. Jesus said not one of the children that the Father gave Him would slip through His fingers. That means satan is bound and powerless against us. Isnt that comforting Johnny? To have that assurance? Maybe thats why Jesus reign since His ascention to the throne room has been a reign of peace for believers.

Dont you notice things getting much worse though? You are clued up on the NWO beast system. There is a time coming when that evil power will dominate the world completely and all the nations will be deceived. Could that be satans little season?

the Lord is our peace, the joy of the Lord is our strength. johnny

Amen to that buddy! Nothing can touch us when we have Jesus. Not even death. Because He already overcame the world and the god of this world.

Jesus never promised worldly peace and paradise on this old Earth. He promised peace in His SPIRITUAL Kingdom.

Please consider this alternative view Johnny. Any earthly kingdom of God that promises wordly peace is part of the deception.

[johnny botwright]

WE CAN BIND SATAN IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS THE POWERS OF DARKNESS, in the name of Jesus, like wise cast out demons in Jesus name.

ive encounted spiritual attacks in the spirit, like wise in the community,even once had a truck, almost smash myself of the road, ive seen people dancing with fiendish delight in their victims blood, Rwanda.

Like wise the story of Job, times of testing, like wise temptation,

setting this aside it could be true to say, alot of people experence more attack, and grief from fellow christians,

the Joseph, syndrome, jealousy, or just trying to trip you up, control, or try to do the work of the holy spirit, or try to close you down, if you stand on their toes, johnny

[johnny botwright]

Cemetery of Gaint creatures found in Central Africa.

http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/24-06-2011/118302-giants_cemetery-0/

intresting any theorys? johnny

[zone]

setting this aside it could be true to say, alot of people experence more attack, and grief from fellow christians,

the Joseph, syndrome, jealousy, or just trying to trip you up, control, or try to do the work of the holy spirit, or try to close you down, if you stand on their toes, johnny

i hear that brother johnny.

[johnny botwright]

‪Graham Hancock: Elves, Aliens, Angels and Ayahuasca‬‏ - YouTube

Jesus stated that the Kingdom of God is within us.
so there are realms we can encounter with in, a spiritual realm,
through the spirit of God for example in the spirit i have been to heaven,
before this when i was involved in the occult, i experenced other things, some very demonic in nature, spiritual beings.
so there is a very real danger, what you allow to enter in, and also where you allow your self to be lead,taken, these forces are real, both good and evil.
satan can appear as an angel of light, as we can entre these realms, so angels, demonic spirits falling angels can enter this realm,
in the old testement women had sex with falling angels, hence the gaints,
satan tried to contaminate human blood lines with the dna of falling angels,
may also explain these creatures found at the cemetary?
another reason God sent the flood other than the reasons mans intent at the time was only to do evil.
we see also in the end times the abyss being opened, and the creatures that come out of the abyss to torment and kill man kind, features of both human and animal.
my other thought is the ruling elite, the inner circle, high preists, of these secret societys, can unleash on man kind, mind and personality changing drugs, through the water for instance or chem trails maybe, also a virsus that can also change people,
and put this to sinister use,

johnny

[strangelove]

Cemetery of Gaint creatures found in Central Africa.

http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/24-06-2011/118302-giants_cemetery-0/

intresting any theorys? johnny

My theory is...no photo's = It's bull.

[strangelove]

‪Graham Hancock: Elves, Aliens, Angels and Ayahuasca‬‏ - YouTube

Jesus stated that the Kingdom of God is within us.
so there are realms we can encounter with in, a spiritual realm,
through the spirit of God for example in the spirit i have been to heaven,
before this when i was involved in the occult, i experenced other things, some very demonic in nature, spiritual beings.
so there is a very real danger, what you allow to enter in, and also where you allow your self to be lead,taken, these forces are real, both good and evil.
satan can appear as an angel of light, as we can entre these realms, so angels, demonic spirits falling angels can enter this realm,
in the old testement women had sex with falling angels, hence the gaints,
satan tried to contaminate human blood lines with the dna of falling angels,
may also explain these creatures found at the cemetary?
another reason God sent the flood other than the reasons mans intent at the time was only to do evil.
we see also in the end times the abyss being opened, and the creatures that come out of the abyss to torment and kill man kind, features of both human and animal.
my other thought is the ruling elite, the inner circle, high preists, of these secret societys, can unleash on man kind, mind and personality changing drugs, through the water for instance or chem trails maybe, also a virsus that can also change people,
and put this to sinister use,

johnny

Quite apt that Hancock has moved into the fiction business proper. He's been spouting fiction for years.

Johnny....human women never had sex with fallen angels. Definately fallen men but not angels. Are you gonna slap us with the reptilian thing next? Seriously mate I think the David Icke forums may have run its course for you now.

[johnny botwright]

i would disagree as always its good to shed light into darkness,

Genesis chapter 6 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men were beautifull , and they took them as wives,

some teach and believe?

thus the flood of Noah's time. This cleansing was also the destruction of the Geber, Hybrid races that were a result of the Naphilian mixing with the daughters of Adam. These people were giants, and it is also believed that Goliath is of that seedline. The Naphilian were the fallen angels who came to earth with satan and found the daughters of Adam attractive, they married and slept with them and this would destroy the seedline of Christ through David.

As for the reptile i understand where they may be getting their wires crossed, humans can be hosts, to demonic spirits.
fallen angels, like wise animals birds reptiles , like wise satan appeared as a serpent, reptile

Jesus cast out a legion of demons that then entered a herd of pigs.

some people have entertained strangers have entertained angels, they do walk among us.

no accounts of people having sex with demons then?, some people believe that the oriiginal sin
was that eve slept with satan, and cain was satans son.?
johnny

[strangelove]

Genesis chapter 6 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men were beautifull , and they took them as wives,

I'm a Son of God arn't you? I'm a child of Jesus. Doesnt mean I'm some kinda angel. Sons of God in Genesis 6 are not angels they are simply those who praise His name.

some teach and believe?

thus the flood of Noah's time. This cleansing was also the destruction of the Geber, Hybrid races that were a result of the Naphilian mixing with the daughters of Adam. These people were giants, and it is also believed that Goliath is of that seedline. The Naphilian were the fallen angels who came to earth with satan and found the daughters of Adam attractive, they married and slept with them and this would destroy the seedline of Christ through David.

Bible doesnt teach that stuff.

As for the reptile i understand where they may be getting their wires crossed, humans can be hosts, to demonic spirits.
fallen angels, like wise animals birds reptiles , like wise satan appeared as a serpent, reptile

Jesus cast out a legion of demons that then entered a herd of pigs.

some people have entertained strangers have entertained angels, they do walk among us.

But they dont have sex.

no accounts of people having sex with demons then?, some people believe that the oriiginal sin
was that eve slept with satan, and cain was satans son.?
johnny

But that cant be true coz the next chapter says that Cain was conceived OUTSIDE the Garden of Eden.

[johnny botwright]

Stock market now going south. johnny

[johnny botwright]

i wonder why it says they saw the daughters of men. ?

google or bing Enoch and the Nephiin it was said Enoch walked with God

This first section of the Book of Enoch describes the fall of the Watchers, the angels who fathered the Nephilim (cf. the b^ene Elohim, Genesis 6:1-2) and narrates the travels of Enoch in the heavens. This section is said to have been composed in the fourth or 3rd century BC according to Western scholars.^[61]
[edit] Content of the Book of the Watchers

• I-V. Parable of Enoch on the Future Lot of the Wicked and the Righteous.
  
• VI-XI. The Fall of the Angels: the Demoralization of Mankind: the Intercession of the Angels on behalf of Mankind. The Dooms pronounced by God on the Angels of the Messianic Kingdom.
  
• XII-XVI. Dream-Vision of Enoch: his Intercession for Azazel and the fallen angels: and his Announcement of their first and final Doom.
  
• XVII-XXXVI. Enoch's Journeys through the Earth and Sheol:
  
• XVII-XIX. The First Journey.
  
• XX. Names and Functions of the Seven Archangels.
  
• XXI. Preliminary and final Place of Punishment of the fallen Angels (stars).
  

johnny

[johnny botwright]

The fallen angels interpretation
The New American Bible commentary draws a parallel to the Epistle of Jude and the statements set forth in Genesis, suggesting that the Epistle refers implicitly to the paternity of Nephilim as heavenly beings who came to earth and had sexual intercourse with women.^[21] The footnotes of the Jerusalem Bible suggest that the Biblical author intended the Nephilim to be an "anecdote of a superhuman race".^[22] Genesis 6:4 implies that the Nephilim have inhabited the earth in at least two different time periods—in antediluvian times "and afterward." If the Nephilim were supernatural beings themselves, or at least the progeny of supernatural beings, it is possible that the "giants of Canaan" in Book of Numbers 13:33 were the direct descendants of the antediluvian Nephilim, or were fathered by the same supernatural parents.

[johnny botwright]

Jewish bodies found Medieval well. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13855238
For myself a narrow shaft, holds a place in my past, my mother who was in kisumu kenya, jaffa and his gang threatened the next time they saw her, they would burn her alive in her car,
then she phoned to say headless bodies were coming down the river at racci, into lake victoria.
Then i read in the gaurdain newspaper where 17 nunns in a childrens home not that far from my mothers childrens home, were robbed then hacked to death by 50 youths with maccettes,
their mutalated bodies some still half alive were thrown down a narrow shaft, known as a long drop, toilet.
God confirmed i was to go to Kenya, Urgent , emergency,
when i arrived it was estimated 50,000 people , women, children, the ederly had been massacred, in Rwanda,which is not that far from Kisumu, which in 100 days went to over 1,000,000 people slaughtered.
so i hope its not an omen, and that there will be not be another explosion of violence. middle east?

Strange hearing about this to on the 17th of the 7th
17 nunns, 17 jews /?
I was looking into weather the Nephilin were fathered by falling angels, looking in Genesis chapter 6
then this caught my eye Genesis chapter 8
And the Ark rested in the seventh month on the seventeenth day, on mountains of Ararat.
after a world changing event.
While i was in Kenya, Kisumu, standing on the shores of Lake Victoria, watching a massive electrical storm over the lake,
on the other side of the lake, Genocide.
The Lord tolled me, Johnny the storm is coming, the sword is out in Africa, the sword is out in the middle East, the sword is out in the far East, The sword is out in Europe.
Its written that all hell brakes loose in the midle East, Israel, and it looks like it goes nuclear. ?
johnny

[strangelove]

It says "they saw the daughters of men?" because they did. But THEY are not angels. The Sons of God are human beings, the ones who praise His name.

Like I said, the bible doesnt teach angels having sex with human women. I've got no problems with giant humans but angels do not have sex.

I'm afraid you cant use the book of enoch and commentary to the NAB to prove your point JB.

[johnny botwright]

Doc not trying to prove apoint, as with many things in scripture, there are different interpretations, some thing created these hybrids, gaints the size of ceeders, the land of cannan, we were as grass hoppers to them.


taught, as mentioned earlier, ive seen people put forward the theory that cain was satans son, and why from the enmity between the seed,

Cain and Abel we see in the world, media , goverments, they often put out an official story, but the official story is not the real story, what was being explored was did the fall of man kind come about because eve ate an apple,

again it was a discussion, some times there is a picture within a picture.
we also see on countless accounts, again goverments media, police, the phrase used cover up, often we cannot accept things at face value, in wordly terms.
then there is the question of translation, for example the number of the beast is it 666 616 or an Arabic phrase a mulitude in the name of Allah,

i think this was more the case of what was being discussed.

Genesis chapter 3 verse 14/15 i will put enimty between you and the women, between your seed and her seed, He shall bruise your head,and you shall bruise his heel

right up to Jesus stating that their father was satan, and not Abraham, a lot was presented, that left you thinking there could be some thing to this. ?

i was intrested to hear what Mr Handcock shared on the video, it filled in a view gaps for my self, teid a few things together.

also why so many experences, from around the world over the last 60 years, are simular, as to what they encounter in the spiritual realm.

even during experiments carried out.

as for the falling angel theory, satan trying to infect human blood lines with the dna from falling angels, i remember it being said from the time of the flood, those falling angels who had come in to the daughters of men, were imprisoned there and then,

later it was asked of Jesus by the legion of demons not to cast them at that time into the abyss johnny

[strangelove]

How can Cain be satans son from eve having sex with the serpent when scripture proves Cain was conceived by Adam and Eve outside of the Garden of Eden?

This fact alone should allow you to reject serpent seed doctrine outright as a lie.

And for the 4th time, the bible never says that angels come into the daughters of men. It says the "Sons of God". That doesnt mean angels. I keep telling you that and you keep ignoring me. If you dont agree can you at least respond and we can talk about it? What scripture are you using to support angels having sex with human women?

Sorry but i dont accept lines like "some people say" or "I've heard people teach". If you come here and bring up this stuff then you are teaching it Johnny.

[strangelove]

"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

What/who is the promised seed that put enmity between satan's spiritual children and Eves? Who bruised satans head?

All things point to Jesus.

The verse has nothing to do with hybrid creatures or DNA.

[johnny botwright]

Again not my teachings , though teachings that have been put forward,

but my personel view is, the sons of God being referred to here, were not men as you and i. nor their off spring.

im more intrested in the technology people have encounted in the spiritual realm, the different spiritual beings, shapshifting, taken human host, and what part this plays in the strong dellusion, that will lead many astray.

people claim to have had sexual encounters in this realm also the spiritual realm with spiritual beings?

have you ever had sex in a dream.?

ive seen it asked on more than one occasion, we believe Jesus was born of a virgin, we know medically what is involved in conception, people ask, how was Jesus concieved ?

i come across alot of things that i find intresting, though at the end of the day are niether here nor there, in the bigger picture, the salvation of mens souls, mankind, the few that choose to believe Jesus is the one, God sent. johnny

[johnny botwright]

Were the Nephilim sons of God?
Fallen Angels? Giants of Genesis 6:4?

A common belief which we share is that the "sons of God" who did marry the "daughters of men" were fallen angels. Why did God send the judgment of the Flood in the days of Noah? The strange events recorded in Genesis 6 were understood by the ancient rabbinical sources, as well as the Septuagint translators, as referring to fallen angels procreating weird hybrid offspring with human women-known as the Nephilim. This was far more than simply a historical issue, the unique events leading to the Flood are a prerequisite to understanding the prophetic implications of our Lord's predictions regarding His Second Coming. This is believed to have happened both before the Flood and after the flood. In Israel at the time of David, and before this when the Hebrews were scouting the land - there were tribes of these Nephilim - Goliath the giant of Gath is one example. Early Church fathers also understood this to be the case. It appears that these fallen angels were active all over the world. These bizarre giants living on the earth are also echoed in the legends and myths of nearly every ancient culture. The ancient Greeks, the Egyptians, the Hindus, the South Sea Islanders, the American Indians, and most all the others have these legends. The Hebrew word Nephelim (plural of nephel) (Nephilim) literally means "rejects". The Hebrew plural for Nephites would be "Nephi'im". Satan probably put this plan to interrupt Abraham's "seed into motion, as soon as it was made known that the Seed of the Woman (Christ) was to come through ABRAHAM. Bible Probe Note: Our use of the Word "irruption" in this article below means: act of rushing; act of breaking in; intrusion, raid; sudden increase.

Genesis 6:4 (Original KJV): There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Bible Probe Note: Note the words; "and also after that". This probably tells of two "irruptions" by Satan's seed. One before Noah's time and another after the flood. They were called “The Watchers” in The Book of Enoch.

Their descendents, called Nephilim (translated "giants"), were monsters of iniquity; and being superhuman in size and in their wicked character, had to be destroyed. Was this the one and only object of the Flood? Genesis 6:12 (Original KJV): And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. Only Noah and his family had preserved their pedigree pure from Adam (Genesis 6:9). All the rest had become "corrupt" (shachath). The only remedy was to destroy it defacto (Latin for "in fact"), as it had become defacto destroyed. This irruption of fallen angels before Noah's day was probably Satan's first attempt to prevent the coming of the "Seed of the woman" foretold in Genesis 3:15. If this could be accomplished, God's Word would have failed, and Satan's own doom would be averted. Genesis 3:15 (Original KJV): And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. also see Isaiah 7:14

[johnny botwright]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlnI63Yk8xQ


is there any body out there.? johnny


ps Doc dont quote me , the cain business, i think it was presented to, he isnt mentioned in Adams geneology? His sacrifice was not accepted/ ?

and when he was cast out, his blood line lead to those Jesus addresses as sons of satan. ?

im not saying the serpent seed doctrine is correct , but i have read it with intrest,
i could under stand they had a different point of view, and why.


Cain and Abel we see in the world, media , goverments, they often put out an official story, but the official story is not the real story, what was being explored was did the fall of man kind come about because eve ate an apple,
again it was a discussion,

some times there is a picture within a picture.
we also see on countless accounts, again goverments media, police, the phrase used cover up, often we cannot accept things at face value, in wordly terms.

then there is the question of translation, for example the number of the beast is it 666 616 or an Arabic phrase a mulitude in the name of Allah,
i think this was more the case of what was being discussed.
johnny

[Sponsored content]